Pat
While I except this is not a straightforward case my understanding is Mitchel's sought clarification on the player's status and tried to get it off the Secretary and he did not do his job and still hasn't replied after numerous requests over many months. They were told the player was legal and played him.

your.right (Longford) - Posts: 74 - 19/11/2009 23:44:40    489082

This debate is nonsense - county board sort out the league and fixtures format this year - well done mitchels hope you can put together a good senior squad - merry christmas.

macsforfive (Tipperary) - Posts: 164 - 20/11/2009 12:01:22    489274

Is it true that Brendans have actually lodged an objection?

Mick83 (Wicklow) - Posts: 67 - 20/11/2009 13:09:53    489345

millbrook, you say that andy doyle is the only intermediate footballer from mitchells club to have played `senior football` in the last two years,i think you might be mistaken there, did the healys,kieran grace,chris brough & a few other lads play a full senior campaign last year ??????
Not to far away with predictions today,Macs beat EGB 5,and FM beat Mitchells by 6. Should be an interesting game in two weeks time,FM will be looking to avenge their county final defeat to Macs.
I think Macs will prove to be strong again,Macs to win by 5 or 6 points to retain their status as kings of Warwickshire again.

moonshine (UK) - Posts: 297 - 22/11/2009 18:42:15    491038

Good performance today in bad conditions, fair play to EGB for fielding and having a go at us. FMs look like they havent stop training and will take some beating but think we will edge is by 4-5.

macsforfive (Tipperary) - Posts: 164 - 22/11/2009 18:59:22    491066

Moonshine you were spot on with your predictions, Masters won by seven, 2-10 to 2-3. I shall call you mystic Mac from now on.

Hman (Donegal) - Posts: 111 - 22/11/2009 21:21:28    491227

moonshine
you obviously have a sense of humor, of cource these players played senior football last year and this year.

''THE ONLY PLAYER ON THE INTERMEDIATE TEAM UP TO THE FINAL WHO PLAYED SENIOR FOOTBALL IN THE LAST 2 YEARS WAS ANDY DOYLE, AND SHARKEY PLAYED IN THE FINAL''

none of the players you mentioned played intermediate.

millbrook (UK) - Posts: 103 - 23/11/2009 07:58:09    491434

Amazingly, still no suggestions or ideas regarding making changes for the future!!!! Virtually all of you just want to bicker and moan. I will save most of my posts and programme them to re post around the same time next year !!!!!!!

Come on all of ye.........if you actually really love the game start thinking positive and look to the individuals and idea's required to stop all the whinges that go on here.

Bothered (Leitrim) - Posts: 20 - 24/11/2009 07:57:55    492482

Was in PNH on Sunday, and must say that despite the conditions, i was generally impressed with the standard of football that was played. I thought Four Masters looked the pick of the teams on display, when their game eventually got under way, but realize Macs and Erin go Bragh were missing some big players. The Fr Forde final will be an interesting encounter in 2 weeks time.

gael2000 (Mayo) - Posts: 81 - 24/11/2009 09:21:42    492498

Bothered

Senior

Sean Macs, Erin Go Bragh, John Mitchels, Four Masters, Roger Casements, St Barnabas, St Mary's, St Brendans, Naomh Padraig

Junior

St Chads, St Finbarr's, Erin Go Bragh Jnr, Sean Macs Jnr, Casements Jnr, Mitchels Jnr, O'Rahilly's, Sons of Erin, The Gaels

League play each other once
Championship straight knockout Snr & Jnr
2 Cups for each league

gael2200 (UK) - Posts: 195 - 24/11/2009 11:57:19    492581

gael 2200

excellent suggetion could your club put it in the form of a motion for convention as this is the only place to get change.
any thoughts on matches being played while county teams are training / playing ?
if league games are played without county players, we might not end up trying to finish competitions in nov / dec,
playing matches 4 days before county games would help. after all clubs are at times put down to play sat and sun.
players loose interest with long periods with no games.

macnally (UK) - Posts: 34 - 24/11/2009 15:55:19    492821

Games could be played midweek while county matches are scheduled for sundays, the MS cup matches were played on tuesdays, so we could play any day that doesnt clash with county training during the week. I'd personally be in favour of more fri/sat games in general.

Promotion and relegation would be involved one up and one down to make the leagues more competitive - if one of the junior sides (egb, macs, casements, mitchels) were to win it would go to the next best placed side.

gael2200 (UK) - Posts: 195 - 25/11/2009 09:42:21    493462

Gael you'll have to put forward your ideas at convention, where you're true identity will be also be unveiled. If you are an EGB man it's refreshing to see someone from our club adopting a proactive stance. You are more than welcome at the AGM when it is eventually called!

Che1959 (Galway) - Posts: 56 - 25/11/2009 22:19:53    494262

Have I missed something Che are you saying people at EGB aren't proactive ... well I doubt you are really an EGB man. EGB are the most proactive club in Warwickshire forget about trying to bring soccer into the GAA fold, or the negative comments about us having 3 teams because at least we tried. We are the only club in Warwickshire to run underage Hurling, to have a Rounders team and to arrange Womens festivals to encourage them to play our games and the only club to actually do something to mark the 125th anniversary. All arguably thanks to the leadership of one man, many such as yourself may knock us saying that these things may look good in theory but are run in a very poor incompetant manner but at least we try. I can't wait for the AGM to show my support and get those people who allegedly give up having a life to help our club get re-elected as managers / committee members so the good work of this year can continue. Now is a time to heal our club these are the only people we have prepared (although i'm sure you'll try and say others try but aren't allowed) to do it.

P_O_Neill1917 (Derry) - Posts: 16 - 25/11/2009 22:58:25    494311

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. If you're that concerned about the club, stop mouthing off behind a computer screen and get involved. It really is time to put up or shut up!

Che1959 (Galway) - Posts: 56 - 25/11/2009 23:18:32    494339

'Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. If you're that concerned about the club, stop mouthing off behind a computer screen and get involved. It really is time to put up or shut up!'

My dear Che have I touched a nerve? You and Gail2200 seem very similar in your negative latent aggressive rhetoric concerning EGB. Please tell me you don't come on here as different people to argue with yourself!! You are always saying that others hide behind computer screens but how are you any different? What do you do to help develop EGB indeed what position will you be looking election for in this most anticipated AGM, I doubt you'll get elected manager as the current one is running again and should be a sure thing considering according to you, you have no one else. I should be at the AGM but due to work commitments i'll be away alot but will be there for support when i'm able to.

P_O_Neill1917 (Derry) - Posts: 16 - 25/11/2009 23:53:56    494388

Gael2200,

Thank you for your input, i agree with your divisions and also the format of games, i would love to play each team twice in the league but as this never gets completed i think your suggestion is good.

I also think that this amount of games would give the board (fixtures sec) an opportunity to produce a fixture list ? i also think that all league games could be completed before championship as lets face it teams/individuals lose interest after their exit from the championship, in turn all teams would/should be at their peak having completed a league programme.

Do you have any idea's for changes to the county board? i would like to see change as i feel the commitee is stale. I dont want to critisise as i am aware it is not an easy position but we have gone backwards in recent years and are drifting through the motions.

P O Niell,

I am not an egb man and have often applauded egb on their efforts in promoting GAA, the clubs desicion to try and field three teams was very optomistic and in turn only annoyed other teams in the lack of matches actually played. You congratulate one man for all this work, surely the workload should be split amongst your commitee. None of my business really though just want to see your club back on track.

Bothered (Leitrim) - Posts: 20 - 26/11/2009 07:09:21    494481

Gael 2200, i agree with your split of the divisions, but i also think it would be better if teams played more league games. As a comprimse i wonder if it would work, where - after all teams have played once the divisions are 'split' into a top half and a bottom half and you then play the other teams in your half a second time. there would not be quite as many games as if you had a conventional format, where teams play twice.
I think this would be better for the weaker teams that end up in a senior league, as they will not have to endure 2 hammerings by the stronger teams.
I also think an intermediette championship would be possible, using the same criteria, with the 4 bottom teams in the senior and 4 top teams in the junior going into a draw.
This would act as an incentive for any of the teams doing well at junior to have a crack at some teams from the next level, and also offer the teams that are struggling at senior and unlikely to do well in the senior championship the opportunity to compete in a championship format against teams of a simillar ilk.
The obvious problems that arise from these suggestions are that the two divisions suggested are composed of 9 teams each. An 8 and a ten might be better.
and that with the intermediette championship, it could be possible that 2 teams from the same club 'qualify' as such.
but surely nothing that cant be ironed out.
What do we think

Hman (Donegal) - Posts: 111 - 26/11/2009 13:26:10    494780

Hman and Bothered

Senior

Sean Macs, Erin Go Bragh, John Mitchels, Four Masters, Roger Casements, St Barnabas, St Mary's, St Brendans.

Junior

St Chads, St Finbarr's, Erin Go Bragh Jnr, Sean Macs Jnr, Casements Jnr, Mitchels Jnr, O'Rahilly's, Sons of Erin, The Gaels, Naomh Padraig

League play each other once then leagues split into 2, senior top 4 bottom 4, junior top 5 bottom 5 play each other once more, after round one championship grading is made, aim to play 2 leagues for each club each week between end of march and during april wed - sun.
Championship straight knockout Snr top 6, Intermediate Snr bottom 2 Jnr top 4, Junior remaining 6 junior clubs
2 Cups for each league.

gael2200 (UK) - Posts: 195 - 27/11/2009 12:49:59    495995

gael
I don't think its possible to play 2 games every week, teams need to train, bear in mind your county players will be training / playing in both football and hurling.
In senior you suggest 8 teams which is 7 games.
Why not go for 1 game per week, I think you would have a realistic of completing in, say 12 weeks
which takes u to end of june.
Also if a game is posponed for any reason, it must be played within seven days or lose points. The team seaking postponement lose points if they cannot agree on refixture.
Initial fixtures to be made by fixture comitte, after which clubs are responisible for their own fixture with no deviation, regardless of county players availibility up to semi and finals of competition.
The same for both divisions.

macnally (UK) - Posts: 34 - 27/11/2009 14:59:07    496090