tomaoo7, can you put up the link. I can't find it on the independent website? Cheers

Real Louth fan (Louth) - Posts: 3157 - 03/03/2009 09:22:15    222647

RLF yesterdays paper ,if you don'y find it ill put up a link running to work.

tomaoo7 (Dublin) - Posts: 5896 - 03/03/2009 09:38:59    222660

Rangers help GAA search for sporting converts in Glasgow [27%]


IT'S probably the last place on earth that you would expect to find Gaelic games being promoted.

- 02/03/2009, National News

tomaoo7 (Dublin) - Posts: 5896 - 03/03/2009 09:42:35    222663

wheres the proof,

mucker (Donegal) - Posts: 479 - 03/03/2009 09:56:51    222667

The Rangers Education centre in Ibrox Stadium have been working with the Tir Conaill Harps club for the past three years providing support for an anti sectarianism programme the club initiated with a number of schools. Probably the most notable was the visit of St.Michael's from Meath who attended an actual Rangers league match against Inverness.
Due to the close links with the six counties and Glasgow with both nationalist and unionist traditions the GAA have suffered here. This has resulted in attacks on the county pitch and bad media coverage rule 21 etc. Fortunately, this is not prevalent now. But the Harps club decided to challenge negative perceptions of our games being a catholic only sport by introducing the school education programme and the east end project which brings togther children of all backgrounds and cultures under the banner of playing gaelic games. This is tragetting young people in areas where sectarianism is only one of the plethora of isms that affect the lives of these youngsters. On a lighter note I did have a funny experince last year when the club brough children from two Roscommon schools to visit Ibrox. Most of the kids were wearing the club colours of Shannon gaels, green and gold. They got a tour around the stadium and bumped into an official tour of rangers fans who were on the same tour with each group passing in the tunnel. The Rangers fans did look more than a little perplexed. By the way the current media report are way off the mark. From what I can gather it's only at a proposal stage.

Harpsman (Overseas) - Posts: 12 - 03/03/2009 10:43:54    222701

der_bomber hold on a second corkcelt,i have a massive interest in soccer and i would have a knowledge more advanced than a lot of people.my tongue was placed firmly in cheek when i spoke about celtic fans..as someone who has been to a few of their games and knows some people who live in glasgow i would have to say that some of the songs i heard them sing and their behaviour was completely racist.yes celtic have a huge fan base and a lot of great fans i accept that but they are a club whose fans have a serious affiliation to the conflict in the north and some of their chants reflect that..i have seen this myself.i know celtic football club have tried to stamp this out in the last few years but a minority of fans still won't change. __________________________________________________ Would you care to enlighten me as to what racist songs you have heard Celtic fans sing? As a Celtic fan who regulatly attends games i have never heard a racist song sung by Celtic supporters at a game or before/after a game and know that there are no racist songs that Celtic fans would sing. Celtic fans are staunchly anti-racist/anti-fascist largely due to the racist and sectarian attitudes that they have to deal with in their own country due to the religion and/or ethnicity of a majority of Celtic fans.

monaghan_ultra (None) - Posts: 213 - 03/03/2009 11:05:35    222725

Good man Patrique fire as many aggravating statements about Celtic as you can to see who bites for a row, why the need I wonder?

Goodfella, Tir (None) - Posts: 1652 - 03/03/2009 11:12:29    222731

it sickens me the way rangers do something like this and everyone is praising them and saying how good they are and blah blah blah........eh can ye not remember the songs their fans sing! the famine song for one, taking the **** out of our ancestors who suffered at the hands of the english government. in my view it wasnt famine it was genocide. there was enough food to feed the people the english just decided not to. and these bigoted rangers supporters mock these people. another song they sing is the billy boys which has a line that says" sure we're up to our knees in fenian blood". fair enough their trying to promote our national sport. but why are they, it would be more in their line to get rid of the sectarian abuse which comes form their fans. and yes i do know that celtic fans can have there days also but they are not as half as bad as the rangers fans!

ThomasClarke1 (Tyrone) - Posts: 392 - 03/03/2009 11:57:37    222767

Celtic fans do not have a good reputation in England, most English supporters will class celtic in the same bracket as Rangers. Singing pro-ira and rebel songs dose nothing for them. They may not be as bad as Rangers but imo they are an imbarassment to Ireland. As regards to Irish soccer fans what about the lad who ran on the pitch to attack the linesman at the georgia away game, I wonder what club he supports.

starmaroon (Galway) - Posts: 55 - 03/03/2009 12:18:24    222780

The famine song is without doubt racist and there are those who seriously believe it and would send us all home at the drop of a hat. There are also thousnds of others who sing it to wind up celtic supporters the same way we have the Jackeens V Culchies banter. Don't jump down my throat on this one I lived my whole life here. I had sectarian bigots living next door to me, but the bottom line for most of these people and the drinking wing of the ra is just about noising up the other side and nowdays trying to get some kind of blame attahced to the other crowd If both sides really believed the stuff they sing how come there are no polarised communities in Glasgow? How come the troubles never spread to Glasgow if it's so bad.

Harpsman (Overseas) - Posts: 12 - 03/03/2009 12:52:42    222810

Is it just me or my imagination but isn't the Scottish football league the most boring annual 2 horse race in sport,and these guys are professional!!!!!!

pullhaard (Limerick) - Posts: 195 - 03/03/2009 13:16:20    222834

harpsman...sectarianism doesn't have to depend on segregated communities to continue to function..i would argue that there is polarisation in glasgow communities...people don't have to live behind huge walls to allow it to prosper...sectarianism is as alive in glasgow as it is in parts of belfast..the only difference is that people there try to be subtle about it..but it comes out in their rugby club sing songs and in their golf clubs where in some cases no catholics are allowed membership..and of course in govan and the east end on matchdays...
also tomaoo..don't get carried away..rangers were never serious about any initiatives they promoted..and my belief is that they're trying to cover favour with uefa, who are putting them inder serious pressure with uefa because of the racist behaviour of some of their fans

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 03/03/2009 13:22:28    222838

03/03/2009 11:12:29
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222731 Good man Patrique fire as many aggravating statements about Celtic as you can to see who bites for a row, why the need I wonder?


He's really more republican than any of us and wants his commenst to be defeated. Unfortunately he cannot see matters as sport and sport alone. he feels the need to politicise everything. As whatever little he knows about politics he knows zero about sport in general and the GAA in particular.

Real Louth fan (Louth) - Posts: 3157 - 03/03/2009 13:29:12    222845

I cant believe people care so much about two british soccer teams.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 03/03/2009 14:05:49    222888

Talk about minorities and majorities all you want. Fact of the matter is there are far more (1000's) racist, sectarian, bigot rangers supporters. The proof is in the European cities the clubs have visited.
They will never do anything constructive for the GAA in Scotland they don't have the mentality. Call me synical but i have experienced these "people" many times.

halfbackwards (Galway) - Posts: 104 - 03/03/2009 14:13:58    222898

mayotyroneman, I know all about the subtle sectarianism that goes on, but this is with a minority. Several GAA clubs here have used rugby clubs in the past for training. My own club held a weekend celtic (that's with a K) festival in one. Historically, there was an anti catholic agenda with some of these clubs, but nowdays I believe it's a minority. Bowling clubs has always been more of bastion of bigotry although that too is changing. And certainly at national (scottish parliament) and local government you will find little evidence of anti-Irishness. You will hardly find a family now in the west of scotland which is made up entirley of the one religion. I know from our club's experience of the communities we work with in some cases you will find children called Patrick and Liam turning up at training with rangers tops on.

10 years ago I would have bet my house that Peter Robinson would not share power with Martin McGuiness. I would have bet my life that a Glasgow Rangers chairman would say "there is no place at ibrox for up to your knees in fenian blood brigade". And do you know what both things happened. Next thing you now our seniors will win a championship.

Harpsman (Overseas) - Posts: 12 - 03/03/2009 14:27:02    222909

celtic arent british bad.monkey!

ThomasClarke1 (Tyrone) - Posts: 392 - 03/03/2009 14:39:52    222923

Celtic arn't british???? AH sure i know, i think ur getting the gaza strip mixed up with the glasgow strip.

pullhaard (Limerick) - Posts: 195 - 03/03/2009 15:11:57    222958

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/rangers-help-gaa-search-for-sporting-converts-in-glasgow-1658184.html

tomaoo7 (Dublin) - Posts: 5896 - 03/03/2009 15:13:33    222960

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I don't know what patrique done on you,but i've always found patrique comments to be fair ,and his knowledge of gaa to be good,his politrical views are fair and non sectarian,if you have 1 row why can't you drop it and move on,just argue the next 1.

tomaoo7 (Dublin) - Posts: 5896 - 03/03/2009 15:27:19    222978