This forum is getting a bit old hat, Its seems that its OK to take a swipe at Tyrone( the NORTHERN UPSTARTS) from all parts of Ireland North South East and West .Is it a case that when you have a successful team that TYRONE HAVE BEEN THIS DECADE and happen to beat Kerry(the romantic side of the GAA) on the Big Occasions, that everybody outside Our Beautiful County of Tyrone have What I call Manchester United Syndrome everybody hates us we don't care! were Tyrone! Tyrone! Tyrone! were on our OWN.

williewentwell (Tyrone) - Posts: 1712 - 17/02/2009 15:11:13    209596

It's just the way our Country is...It's a divided little place. I agree with you that theres a problem there, but it's just like any other...Rural v Urban...Country v City... North V South Blah Blah Blah...It's the way of things.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 17/02/2009 15:45:01    209663

Wise up willie, i think its just u thats on your own...

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 17/02/2009 15:45:51    209664

your paranoid

tomaoo7 (Dublin) - Posts: 5896 - 17/02/2009 15:54:35    209676

id take it as a compliment, nobody would be giving out about ya's if ye weren't any good. although it can get a bit annoying at times

jaffacake (Meath) - Posts: 720 - 17/02/2009 16:07:02    209703

You are spot on willie. I have been highlighting this for quite a while now and many of our Southern friends are still in total denial. There is a large dose of anti-Northern partitionism in Ireland and the GAA which portrays itself as a 32 county organisation is as culpable as anyone. The recent rule changes in football, as various Ulster managers have stated, were brought in primarily to hinder Tyrone and to a lesser extent Armagh and Monaghan BECAUSE many in the South just can't stomach Northern sides rocking the boat or annoying the old guard in Kerry. Already from Sunday we can see a head of steam building within various Southern media outlets and GAA circles to lay all the blame on the unsavoury incidents in Omagh solely on Tyrone. We are hearing "It wasn't us guv" bleating from Kerry who are as dirty and cynical as ANY county in Ireland but who try to portray themselves as the good guys, backed up by a lot of their apologists in the media. It is no wonder most of us in Ulster take great enjoyment when Tyrone beat the so called kings, it is called poetic justice.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9816 - 17/02/2009 16:15:10    209717

The way I see it is that Ireland was and will always be one country. No north or south,no british or plantations. We're all Irish here and we're all one country. The only thing that's dividing the two now is the unit of currency but as soon as it's euro up there that will be the signal for the total independence of Ireland and that rivalry between 'north' and 'south' teams will be gone and it will just be the plain old rivalry like between teams such as Kerry and Cork. The only thing that's dividing the north from the south is ignorance. We're all Irish, we all fought in the 1798 rebellion and in 1916. Just because the british government refuses to acknowledge the wishes of the majority of Irish people doesn't mean we have to punish our brothers and sisters by treating them differently.

Baileathacliath (Dublin) - Posts: 1 - 17/02/2009 16:27:01    209739

Well it's about time Ulsterman showed up with his usual tripe!

3inarow08 (Kerry) - Posts: 2455 - 17/02/2009 16:32:41    209750

c'mon lad get a grip! to say the new rules are anti ulster is ridiculous. yea there are anti tyrone people on here but wat can ya do. its a public forum. and yea there is media sessationalism but last year meath dublin and galvin were the 'bad' guys! and got a lot worse press may i add. as i said earlier if your no1 people will try and knock u, and that goes for ANYONE! so tyrone people should ignore it all and admire sam. we're not all anti-ulster!!

jaffacake (Meath) - Posts: 720 - 17/02/2009 16:36:55    209757

Well , I'm a southerner living in the North and I can tell you that there are a lot of Northerners who are just as hatefull towards the South. Thankfully they're in the minority but they do exist. Mind you . they usually don't have the guts to say it to your face when they're alone.

dubupnorth (Dublin) - Posts: 1897 - 17/02/2009 16:43:44    209771

I would have no problem with McMenamin being disciplined so long as O'Connor, O'Sullivan and Cooper are ALSO disciplined for their antics. If there is a level playing field fair enough but let's not pretend that a lot of this isn't just anti-Tyrone and anti-Ulster nonsense. There are many on HS who are using this to spew out their usual partitionist froth and the comment from some in the Southern media has just been disgraceful.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9816 - 17/02/2009 16:44:28    209772

i think ye " northan men" on this thread have answered you own question, simply put ye can take no critisism constructive or otherwise. ( i do not include everyone in this just the couple of boys on this thread)

rich dublin (None) - Posts: 425 - 17/02/2009 16:46:36    209778

williewentwell - the whole HS commmunity here dont even account for a full Precentage of the irish population.
What difference do a few Bigots on this forum make in all reality.
i would say alot of it is messing and you may well need to grow thicker skin

FromTheNa (Mayo) - Posts: 583 - 17/02/2009 16:49:40    209786

I think the main problem is Tyrone are very very jealous of the fact that Kerry are the romantic favourites and despite Tyrone's recent success they can never have the kind of support that Kerry have and probably will always have as long as they are successful.
Tyrone have tried to raise themselves above Kerry on this site with alot of gloating and claims of greatness etc.. but you can't suddenly claim to be the greatest footballing county with success only in the past 10 or 15 years.
There is alot to admire about some of the recent Tyrone teams especially the likes of Cavanagh and Canavan but let me start:
Kennnelly(which one), O'Shea (which one, Jack, Dara.....), Fitzgerald,Walsh, Spillane, Morna, Sheehy, Moynihan, Cooper, O'Cinneide, OKeefe, Nelligan....
It reads like a bible of the greats of GAA.
Kerry could probably fill half if not more of the top football players ever.
Even claims of being the team of the decade are unfounded. Kerry have won 4 titles since 2000 and Tyrone have only won 3. Kerry have been in at least 6 finals since 2000, Tyrone I think have been in 3 which they have won which a obviously a great record. However we would have alot of Tyrone people since winning in the Summer making all kinds of unfounded claims.

ColinWex (Wexford) - Posts: 901 - 17/02/2009 16:50:42    209790

Well Baile Ath Claith or Dublin as I'll call you, you may have a romantic notion of one ireland but I'll be happier where I am for now instead of being dragged down by the crumbling south and end up with nothing.
Me and my family's well being are more important than a few political ideals.

gottabetrue (Tyrone) - Posts: 300 - 17/02/2009 16:51:34    209791

Ulsterman, as a six county native (and a god damn proud one at that), I have to say with great remorse that the majority of the bile and rubbish and pathetic posts on Hoganstand comes from Northern posters. And to break that demographic down even further, the majority of diluded Northern posters come from Tyrone. Unfortunately.

Rio Bingo (Tyrone) - Posts: 788 - 17/02/2009 16:53:38    209793

gottabetrue
County: Tyrone
Posts: 113

209791 Well Baile Ath Claith or Dublin as I'll call you

What?....

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 17/02/2009 16:55:46    209798

get a grip

Dingle08 (Kerry) - Posts: 128 - 17/02/2009 16:56:53    209801

Ulsterman County: Antrim Posts: 221 No the rule changes have been brought in to try and improve football because in recent times it's turned into pure tripe. This was started long before Northern teams became successful (I.e. Meath and Cork teams of years gone by). Still alot of unfounded claims being thrown around here about Tyrone being the team of the decade. Not true. Titles are what counts not who you beat in the final every year. Tyrone are still second best to Kerry until they win another 2 titles. Even if they win next year in my opinion they will still not be the team of the decade, Kerry will have more provincial titles and will still have appeared in more finals. Now if you made the claim that Tyrone are the best team in the country at the moment I'll pay that since until Sam is handed over you are still the champions. Team of the decade no!!

ColinWex (Wexford) - Posts: 901 - 17/02/2009 16:56:58    209802

I think we should all agree that we share one common interest and that is Gaelic games. I think the vast majority of posters come to the site in goodwill. Some others get a little bit carried away but sure isnt that all part of the craic! I think both sides to the discussion might bear the following in mind. One; Before Tyrone won their first All-Ire in 2003 they suffered a bit of a drought , 119 years to be precise! so lads it would be kind to remember that there were great teams about for many decades before Tyrone were even mentioned in dispatches. Two; Our colleagues in the south should understand that more than 55% of the Northern population (our protestant brothers) have no exposure to our games and therefore we are building club and county teams from a much reduced pool of availability. I think you may agree that we have and continue to punch above our weight.

gaelantrim (Antrim) - Posts: 1616 - 17/02/2009 17:18:22    209836