Tom1916 Listen you obviously dont like belfast! Why not got to the cricky on another night and you'd see girls there playing camogie and fellas playing hurling ive been there id probably say a hell of a lot more than your goodself. Lets face facts also Armagh dont fill places unless there winning either my friend i watched derry hammer them in a semi about 98 and id say 5-10 per cent were armagh people i met with them after and they talked to me about why there county was struggling they were mainly from cross but no one then started mouthing of at Armagh. West Belfast like any area in a major city has its crime problems but if this puts you off surely it would around dublin too? I had to help an Australian women get her handbag back from a gang as she returned to the train station from croke in 2004 (by the way they were hanging around a park just round from croker and guess what they were playing soccer in it heaven forbid) this doesnt make it a bad place. Ive stood outside clones and been attcked by a local gang luckily only that my bus was returning they would have gave me a kicking lucky enough it was the other way round but when we told the Garda he says "what can you do there local thugs they do this every year" this doesnt make clones a bad place in my eyes it also doesnt make it non gaa friendly id go back in the morning. Ive plenty of friends in west belfast when Antrim make it to the big games they have the flags out and the place decked out were you living here when st galls went to the final every club helped deck out belfast in blue and white what was very hard for some clubs to do given rivilaries. I can guarantee this probably the same as most counties come may 18th Antrim v Cavan you'll see more GAA tops up and down west belfast than any other sporting Jersey. We struggle against foreign sports whats your point are you saying dublin doesnt? I could quote to you an unsavoury incident that happened in cross after a gaa game there two year ago but whats the point Armagh ones never liked belfast given the support they get from them i can never understand it myself. So maybe we dont deck the colours out for a championship thats not looking to good but we'll see if Armaghs wee slump continues how many orange and white flags will be out. Or will yous pelt the cars of tyrone fans on route home again?? As for your comments on these clubs being places to sit and talk about soccer and horses go into the Rossa and tell them thats all your interested in, they might show you different........................................................just maybe. Go into Cassidys bar on a sunday afternoon during the ulster championship, look at the owners mural to armagh on the wall outside from when they won the All Ireland in 2002 , go into most bars on a sunday evening in the right areas ie west belfast and chat im sure you'll find a gah squad there somewere. Have a walk through Ardoyne or most areas and tell me there is no gaa murals. A lot of hard work is being put into the GAA in Antrim and Belfast once it starts to pay dividends we'll see then, the GAA people in this county are proud that we now see areas were kids walk around with hurls only 3 years ago a fella walking down the shaws road was arrested for having a dangerous weapon, a hurl, its not easy you know but were getting there. I can presume your from south armagh?

North Side Gael (None) - Posts: 1076 - 09/05/2008 09:21:39    16825

Or will yous pelt the cars of tyrone fans on route home again??

NSG. I agree with most of what you are saying Belfast has plenty of gaa following but as i have discussed with you before most ulster gaa fans would pick clones over casement all the time. (apart from antrim people, obviously if derry and down were playing it may make sense) Anyway this incident you talk about happened at markethill and armagh cars were attacked as well. Does this narrow down who threw them?

samin10 (Armagh) - Posts: 2434 - 09/05/2008 09:44:36    16834

Samin the incident im talking about happened in lurgan!!!!!!

But sure after a while enough said is enough said!!

North Side Gael (None) - Posts: 1076 - 09/05/2008 10:34:50    16880

as bad again

samin10 (Armagh) - Posts: 2434 - 09/05/2008 10:59:20    16899

tom 1916,

If you hate west belfast so much, why do you still reside there! U sound like a super duper gael , why not go and live in the gaeltacht in donegal or kerry, apparently they still sit around turf fires with a glass of poitin in hand telling short stories!! amadan!

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 09/05/2008 15:37:45    17095

Found out the name of that club team overlooking Lough Neagh....Kevin Barrys, Derryloughan. Not the greatest of facilities but lovely views from the pitch!

MNMN (Monaghan) - Posts: 19 - 09/05/2008 17:35:56    17190

think some folk need to read my original post where i said clones was the worst venue about and i'm from monaghan.

nevergiveup08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 315 - 09/05/2008 20:19:02    17224

Cool it there lads on the Casement front.

I enjoy West Belfast for games - pubs close by, hospitable people and parking close by if you know the area. For a city venue public transport is amazingly non-existant. By car getting in and out can be slow, but what's the diference there with most other venues, including Croker.

Casement might be easier for The Irish News columnists to get back to South Belfast, but the rest of live in 'provincial' Ulster.

babser (Monaghan) - Posts: 103 - 09/05/2008 22:03:50    17246

nevergiveup08 is clearly throwing swipes at venues he's not close to.

He says "worst has to be clones in terms of the town, facilities and infrastructure."

Where's better in terms of town, facilities and infrastrucute?

Make a case for the best in Ulster and venues elsewhere!

babser (Monaghan) - Posts: 103 - 09/05/2008 22:52:46    17255

Babser, give over like a good man on the Clones issue. Nobody doubts that the atmosphere in Clones is great but the infrastructure is a complete shambles! It is actually quicker to travel from Donegal to Croke Park than to travel from Donegal to Clones! Surely that says it all! If you want a venue in Ulster that has everything (leaving aside the capacity) then look no further than Healy Park in Omagh! Its also central to all Ulster counties. The infrastructure is great, the atmosphere is great (think back to Donegal v Monaghan last year) and the facilities are pretty good too!

Lifford Gael (Donegal) - Posts: 1925 - 10/05/2008 17:31:05    17381

Healy park is a disaster gettting out of

Monaghan08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 188 - 11/05/2008 10:50:33    17513

best has 2 b CROKE PARK. te worst is PARNELL PARK.

conor12 (Meath) - Posts: 67 - 11/05/2008 17:17:52    17629

Good

Croke Park

Carlow

Kilkenny

Portlaoise

Thurles

Galway

Killarney


Bad
___

Navan

Newbridge

Parnell Park

Cork

Dungarvan

Aughrim

Insider2008 (Carlow) - Posts: 7 - 11/05/2008 17:50:47    17642

Worst place for a stadium in Ireland has to be West Belfast as it has no atmosphere due to the lack of interest from locals. Imagine a 30,000 capacity stadium in an area were peoople would walk past while the uslster club championship final or a major championship game was taking place.

Clones is an excellent stadium and a good town, I personally don't mind the traffic too much. Healy Park, Ballybofey and Navan are also very good places to watch a match.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 12/05/2008 09:03:23    17748

millimium stadium is the best for me, that andf twickenham- two perfect sporting arenas and whats more two finished sporting arenas

ball-boy (Mayo) - Posts: 4211 - 12/05/2008 10:19:25    17798

jjb yesterday was brilliant

samin10 (Armagh) - Posts: 2434 - 12/05/2008 10:28:55    17804

Lads,

How is transport non existant in belfast? theres buses go from the city centre every fifteen minutes theres also a black taxi depot on the end of castle street which anyone can get into and they charge about a £1.10 ahead to get to casement from the city centre, the bus station is in the city centre so if your there on time you can get good transport.

As for Tom 1916 im not even going to acknowledge you any more you obviously have a personal grip with west belfast please dont take it out on the GAA people though.

North Side Gael (None) - Posts: 1076 - 12/05/2008 10:28:55    17805

Babser

"Casement might be easier for The Irish News columnists to get back to South Belfast, but the rest of live in 'provincial' Ulster. "

Would you like to clarify what your trying to get at here?

North Side Gael (None) - Posts: 1076 - 12/05/2008 10:33:43    17812

north side gael.

Just like to say think your a good poster but as far as casement park is concerned it is a regular arguement with belfast people and to a lesser extent the rest of antrim that casement park is a great venue and that it should be hosting bigger games but the reality is there is very few other ulster people who like casement park. I have plenty of friends in the lenadoon area who think casement should be hosting ulster finals. Personally prefer clones hands down

samin10 (Armagh) - Posts: 2434 - 12/05/2008 10:39:59    17815

Pearse Park in Longford. There yesterday, on the terrace you cant see from in to the corners of the pitch on the near side nor can you see sideline on the same side. very poor construction. terrace too steep. Even rte cameras couldnt pick out sideline.

freddy15 (Westmeath) - Posts: 139 - 12/05/2008 11:17:52    17857