A few home thruths about Galway minors that everybody is avoiding: 1. Kevin Walsh should have got the managers job in the first place because he was interested and the best man for the job. 2. Gerry Fahy's selectors had no track record in coaching or manageing at this level. Where were men like Paraic Coyne, Jimmy Sice, Michael Ryder, Terry Regan who have experince in managing young teams. 3. As Paddy 1 says the majority of the North Galway clubs were excluded from the panel to make room for players from the heartland of football that is now in Athenry and Ballinasole(when did they feature in anything at underage) 4. Some players went onto the panel without even attending trials and went straight onto the team without proving themselves. 5. The majority of the players on the team didnt even have the basic skills, what were they doing in training all winter and spring. 6. Self discipline in the camp was poor. 7. The wrting was on the wall when this team struggled against a very weak Sligo team, but managent did nothing to rectify the situation.

crusher (Galway) - Posts: 137 - 29/06/2009 02:39:03    325957

who exactly are the good players from the so called "proud footballing" clubs such as cortoon,dunmore,milltown etc.???the truth is there are no footballers from them clubs that are good enough to play county football because if there were they would be playing!!!!as i said after the sligo game the team were being overhyped when they were clearly not good team!!!!also i thought the management of the team was very poor,i thought the selected half forward line were simply not good enough in before a ball was kicked at all!!!!the truth is that winning ted webbs and being a star at ted webb counts for nothing!!!!!!!

porkchops (Galway) - Posts: 151 - 30/06/2009 14:16:01    327669

same old story almost everybody thinks that the panel should all have been from the north.look guys teams like milltown and cortoon dont hav 1 good player....so thats the reason they wernt playing.it doesnt matter what club or what school u go to,if you are good enough you should play.

its like saying joe canney should be on the galway senior team just because he is from corofin,when he just isnt good enough.

NaomhAnna09 (Galway) - Posts: 139 - 30/06/2009 19:22:53    328057

paddy1
It's clear that them northern teams you mentioned didn't have anyone good enough to be on the team. North Galway is not the home of Galway football anymore.

Galway11 (Galway) - Posts: 570 - 30/06/2009 19:27:40    328064

Nobody said that all the team should be from the north, in fact both of the Sweeneys should have been starting, but something stinks a bit when so many clubs are completely excluded. I will give a few examples. Flatley from Williamstown. Cleary from Dunmore, better than Cunningham or Flynn. Kelly from Caltra. Ward from Dunmore good enough for panel at least. There are others too who might not be as fancy as some people would like but they are hard and tough and would play with the same pride that Sweeney from Mountbellew did. And futhermore is was a disgrace that Bodkin was taken off. It is is easy to say now that they are no good but the fact is they never got a chance and many of those that did get the chance were not up to it. So is there nobody better around or is Galway underage football now sank to a level somewhere between Sligo and Leitrim. I dont think so but--.

crusher (Galway) - Posts: 137 - 30/06/2009 20:42:05    328094

crusher
The trials are open to anyone who wants to have a go at making the team, maybe the lads you mentioned didn't impress when given their chances.

Galway11 (Galway) - Posts: 570 - 30/06/2009 22:09:19    328151

Should the management sit around waiting to be impresed or should they go out and find the best players and mould them into a team.

crusher (Galway) - Posts: 137 - 30/06/2009 22:54:14    328201

its simple lads,been happening for years and years...its who you are,who ya know, where you are from.really showed up under age football over the weekend..underage in galway has been a bit of a joke for 20 years.

newnews (Galway) - Posts: 46 - 01/07/2009 00:51:52    328304

in response to some of the posts made by other members:

Galway11
i am not saying that the north is the home of fooball(even though both county minor titles are resting in the north)but there seems to have been a complete exclusion of talented players from northern clubs. crusher has already given some good examples and to those i would add Mannion(Killeririn) Creaven(Annaghdown) O Reilly(Kilkerrin/Clonberne) and Lennon(Williamstown).

porkchops
Yes i know that the ted webb grade is not the be all and end all but galway north trounced sligo in this grade two years ago. Can Sligo have improved that much that we struggled past them by one point in tuam a few weeks ago. The managment seems to have completely disregarded the ted webb as an indicator of talent as players that participated in that final were excluded to make way for players who were not on the panel or only subs.

crusher
your post about the home truths was very interesting indeed and if true serious questions would need to be asked of the managment.can anybody else backup these statments?

paddy1 (Galway) - Posts: 7 - 01/07/2009 00:59:32    328313

crusher your dead rite in ur earlier comment!! is it true lorcan colleran was involved???? some players also thonk they are two good ta pass the ball or put in sufficent work!! i was disgraced by the lack of work rate in the team!!! alot work needed in underage structure!!! but it mainly came from this team at ted webb level as team was picked from wer management wer from!!! there was no pride in the jersey at all!! sort things out!! quickly!!

scan (Galway) - Posts: 25 - 01/07/2009 01:47:44    328346

It seems to me that selectors involved in county minor teams over the years have always seemed to go fifty fifty on players from the west and north. Its almost as if they want to have equal representation of both footballing areas just so moaning would be avoided. As for the north not being the home of galway football anymore take a look at our senior team, Coyne who shouldnt be there and conroy who is from the city. look at corofins representation in this years county minoe team 2 players i believe and have one of the best minor teams. my point is a feel a lot of players from the west are brought into minor teams to make it look very nice and evenly spread over the county. A grade football is found in the north board and will be for years to come. lets see how many of our west county minors will make senior...very very little

critic101 (Galway) - Posts: 97 - 01/07/2009 02:17:50    328353

The reality is Sligo should have beaten Galway in Tuam and Galway are no good. That team is full of midfielders playing in wrong positions and greedy subs looking to shoot from anywhere. It will be the same story next year.

enthusiast (Sligo) - Posts: 49 - 01/07/2009 11:53:54    328551

Lads the reason galway minors lost is that the preparation wasnt good leading up to the match and there was some players that were played in wrong positions and some players that shouldnt be on the panel at all in my opinion. The likes of Steede should not have been corner forward, he was totally played out place. Thomas Flynn, Fintan Curran, Padraig Cunningham shouldnt have been on the panel. Midfielders were disaster thats the reason the forwards got no ball and galway had a low scoring game. It looks bad when the 2 midfielders are replaced aswell. Some of the backs played well and 1 or 2 forwards when they got the ball eventually. Hard luck boys. Is there any players that would be looking to play galway u21 next year?

ghandy (Galway) - Posts: 49 - 01/07/2009 12:03:58    328563

crusher how could you think that taking bodkin off was disgrace???the mayo centre back got man of the match and bodkin was clearly ineffective at centre forward!!!!the truth is in my opinion bodkin shouldnt have been in the starting fifteen against mayo because he was poor against sligo aswell

porkchops (Galway) - Posts: 151 - 01/07/2009 16:12:24    328970

Hard Luck to the Galway Minors. We voice our opinions on what way we predict games to go then critise when they don't go the way we want. Truth is that ALL of these lads were training HARD for months leading up to this championship and there was nothing but compliments from them for the management this year. These are young lads who are proud to play for their clubs and county and proved this by putting in 8 months of hard work with county, along with playing for clubs and schools AND some studying for exams at the same time. It didn't go right for them on the day but these things happen. The seniors were only lucky to win the way they played on the day also so give credit where its due. The minors went out against a very strong and more physical team in Mayo but it cannot be said that they didn't try or looked like a team who didn't play together. This was a team who beat Tyrone, Roscommon and thrashed Tipperary in challenge games, to name a few, where the management used an enormous amount of players from all over the county along the way, so it cannot be said there was bias. It was great to see players from Athenry and Ballinasloe represent their clubs and these guys showed their ability throughout the year just like everyone else. The preparation for this game couldn't have been any better, management were exceptional to all the players and at this age, they need to be given credit for their effort throughout the year. They too were extremely disappointed with the result!!!

gero12 (Galway) - Posts: 1 - 01/07/2009 17:40:13    329067

lad just a though for a few people leaveing message did yee ever think that the young lads might be reading some of year post im sure they tried there best and would yee have a bit of respect for them .There is no need 2 b nameing players who yee think are not good enough; bet most of yee never wore a county jersey.

brown (Galway) - Posts: 64 - 01/07/2009 17:42:56    329068

on the subject of galway minors,
like most people i was very dissapointed with performance,
they made so many basic errors to bad to be true poor passsing, ther seemed to be little teamwork or style of play,
thats not to say these lads are no good ,
lot of talented young lads on this team ,
what i seen was a brilliant mayo team very well coached in most aspects of game knew exactly what they had to do ,
some of their moves were top class i expect them to go vey close to winning all ireland
for young galway players there plenty of time for them,
but once again top coaching is what they need in future years for them to develop.

rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1478 - 01/07/2009 19:07:44    329146

Is this 17 pages of lads who were jealous that they did not make the team giving out?

The statement about Athenry and Ballinasloe players (what have they ever done) is comical, for years Galway overlooked players because of their clubs its about time lads were given a fair chance. If your good enough your club doesn matter.
Athenry are pron the most progressive club in galway, Ballinasloe are also on an upward curve after some poor years.

jimfahy (Galway) - Posts: 81 - 01/07/2009 23:20:49    329392

North galway is the home of galway football. the real class players have always come from here. the west is full of ordinary players whose strength and size gets them onto the minor teams. when it comes to senior most the players will be again from the north. look at JJ Greany for example on sunday. a big strong ordinary footballer. why wasnt the likes of johnny ryan or damien reddington on the bench?? also think the whole minor set up is a joke. putting 30 lads out i a field in feburary and pick ur panel..... JOKE!!!

infinity (Galway) - Posts: 38 - 02/07/2009 00:23:08    329454

Time to put an end to all this nonsense of people who should of made it from these 'north board' teams but obviously weren't good enough and putting down team's such as Athenry and Ballinasloe because they have players who made the panel, I get the feeling that these people are jealous and maybe players from there club were left out. Looking ahead at next year as far I know players that will be elligable for next year are Fintan Curran, Peadar Ó Gríofa, Fiach O Bearra (M.Breathnachs), Thomas Flynn (Athenry), Padraig Cunningham (Ballinasloe), Kenneth Hansbury (Claregalway) and Eanna O hEochaidh (Spiddal). That is a good sign that 7 of this years minor are availible next year. Anyone I left out ?

Galway11 (Galway) - Posts: 570 - 02/07/2009 00:45:47    329474