Stephen Roche without doubt. I'll never forget him tracking back Delgado in the Alps and completly collapsing after. Unbelievable stuff in the worlds toughest sport. -A sport which has been completely discredited. People mention Murtagh as one of the greats. Well now I would be biased towards any Meathman but Johnny is not a patch on Fallon. -Murtagh is not that far behind Fallon at all. I agree with you that Fallon is one of the best ever though. As for best jockey ever it's hard to look past Lester Piggot, his record speaks for itself. Greatest Irish sportsman probably has to be George Best, since no other Irish sportsman is considered among the all-time greats at what he did. And an all-time great at pulling super-hot ladies aswell, nearly deserves the award just for that alone!!

aidangalway (Galway) - Posts: 648 - 20/10/2008 12:49:15    122409

Did Sonya get to be a great runner from running away from all the guys that were chasing her or did she get fast by chasing after guys who ran away from her? What do yis think?

JayoCluxton (Dublin) - Posts: 2688 - 20/10/2008 13:04:17    122435

Paul Brady fulfils every criteria people are putting forward.

***Criterium?***

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12291 - 20/10/2008 13:07:41    122442

JayoCluxton County: Dublin Posts: 1754 Did Sonya get to be a great runner from running away from all the guys that were chasing her or did she get fast by chasing after guys who ran away from her? What do yis think? ______________________________________________________________ Definately the latter Jayo!!

Bald Eagle (None) - Posts: 1009 - 20/10/2008 13:08:12    122446

I think it might be the latter JC, but the real question is, what happened to the poor fellas she caught?

mid-mon man (Monaghan) - Posts: 1680 - 20/10/2008 13:10:32    122452

20/10/2008 13:04:17
JayoCluxton
County: Dublin
Posts: 1756

Did Sonya get to be a great runner from running away from all the guys that were chasing her or did she get fast by chasing after guys who ran away from her? What do yis think?

There could be a large pool of untapped talent here. Anyone who got away from her should be immediately stuck into the Irish athletics team.

RMDrive (Donegal) - Posts: 2202 - 20/10/2008 13:42:05    122494

There could be a large pool of untapped talent here. Anyone who got away from her should be immediately stuck into the Irish athletics team.

Ha ha, love it

holymoly (Dublin) - Posts: 757 - 20/10/2008 13:46:17    122497

Sonia - so good she had a golf shot named after her.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12291 - 20/10/2008 14:32:33    122553

In terms of ability,pace,strength and temprament..................
its got to be ballboy!!

ACtribe (Galway) - Posts: 401 - 20/10/2008 14:46:52    122560

lifford geal ireland are the only country i have ever known to train on a pitch like a car park that is what am on about and down and out keane was the twice the players than both but everyone is in entitled to there opinion i respect yours because they where both great players as well

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 20/10/2008 15:15:16    122605

eddie reilly

beer baron (Cavan) - Posts: 3916 - 20/10/2008 15:20:04    122615

The Master: I take it you don't know an awful lot about sport in general? ....How can you honestly say that Roy Keane achieved more on the biggest stage than any other Irish person?..... Surely you're having a laugh...??.... All credit to Roy and all that.. yes he was a magnificent soccer player and all that but please don't even think about mentioning his name in the same sentence as true Irish greats who did actually perform on the world stage such as Padraig Harrington, Sonia O'Sullivan., Ronnie Delaney, Eamonn Coughlan, John Treacy, Stephen Roche, Sean Kelly etc......Now there's a few names for you who did actually perform 'on the biggest stage over a long period of time'....!!!

Why are these ppls achievements better than roy keane's? After all what % of people in the world play golf, or run athletics? or participate in professional cycling? Not even a fraction of that who play soccer... So if RK was one of he best players in the world of the no.1 sport in the world then surely his achievments must be considered better... There you are badmonkey, a crash course in 'general sport'.
How can you imply he didnt perform? He was Man Utds captain for the majority of his career. Chosen for the job over the likes of Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs etc. People are just sore because of him leaving saipan, but that isnt the issue here, its the greatest irish sportsperson, which should be gauged on maintained exceptional performance on the highest stage...

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 20/10/2008 16:03:52    122670

Ah jeeze RMD - you just sneaked past your 1,000 post there without giving us a masterclass post - booo hiss! :-(

JayoCluxton (Dublin) - Posts: 2688 - 20/10/2008 16:30:50    122704

JayoCluxton
County: Dublin
Posts: 1767

Ah jeeze RMD - you just sneaked past your 1,000 post there without giving us a masterclass post - booo hiss! :-(
_______________________________________________________________________________

Just noticed that myself there Jayo, that's not on at all. BOOOOO HISSSSS RMD!!!

Perhaps we should start a thread speculating what RMDs 1000th Thread was about?

Bald Eagle (None) - Posts: 1009 - 20/10/2008 16:39:57    122720

Interesting to see the country is still just as divided on the Keane issue over 6 years on!

mid-mon man (Monaghan) - Posts: 1680 - 20/10/2008 16:43:18    122727

From the question I would take it how they preformed for Ireland or represented Ireland(if sole game) so what the boy Roy did for manure is not the issue, what did he do for. promote/enhance Irelands sporting reputation, answer FA, he had one good qualifying campaign where he was joint top scorer with Ian Harte, apart from that he never produced the goods in an Ireland jersey, right from the start he didn't care about Ireland- he evens says so in his book, Paul McGrath -Irelands best soccer player and also the last defender to win Player of the year, but most likely Padraig H the best overall sports man, and by the way golf is the second most played sport in the world and he has no team to rely on

BigRon1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 80 - 20/10/2008 16:48:19    122733

BE - nothing of any substance I'll bet! It may have been his malpropism joke which was rather (mal)appropriate!!!

JayoCluxton (Dublin) - Posts: 2688 - 20/10/2008 16:55:14    122741

The Master- i didnt write any of what you quoted that was someone else. What i said was "Keane was a very good player and worked very hard but brady, mcgrath and best were much better footballers."

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4649 - 20/10/2008 16:55:43    122742

BigRon1
County: Westmeath
Posts: 40

122733 From the question I would take it how they preformed for Ireland or represented Ireland(if sole game) so what the boy Roy did for manure is not the issue, what did he do for. promote/enhance Irelands sporting reputation, answer FA, he had one good qualifying campaign where he was joint top scorer with Ian Harte, apart from that he never produced the goods in an Ireland jersey, right from the start he didn't care about Ireland- he evens says so in his book, Paul McGrath -Irelands best soccer player and also the last defender to win Player of the year, but most likely Padraig H the best overall sports man, and by the way golf is the second most played sport in the world and he has no team to rely on


Your whole post and any point you're trying make is completely undermined by your juvenile reference to "Manure" You might as well have put I hate Man Utd and I'm completely biased in my view of Roy Keane at the top of the post.

For me, Paul McGrath is the greatest Irish soccer player ever but the lengths people go to discredit Keane are truly astounding. He never ended any players career, he's not the first or last person to deliberately try to injure an opponent (john Giles revisionists might pay attention to that) and whatever your opinion is about Saipan - he most definitely is not the only person to blame to that shambolic situation. He was the fall guy, thats all.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12291 - 20/10/2008 17:32:19    122787

Breffni39m i dont think people could do a better job of discrediting Keane than he did himself .

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 20/10/2008 17:42:40    122791