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Am only thinking through it now but wonder would some version of the Swiss model work for the AISHC?

12 teams - 7 in Leinster and 5 in Munster (Bar when Kerry are in the AISHC)

Play off the provincials as normal but the results also count towards the overall table

So you end up with

Provincial finalists x4
Provincial semi-finalists x4
Provincial quarter-finalists x4

Have it that everyone one way or another has to play two of the provincial finalists, two of the provincial semi-finalists, and then two of the provincial quarter-finalists

So say like this year, Limerick beat Cork in the Munster Final; that would count as playing a Provincial finalist for both and would count as 2 points for Limerick in the overall table and 0 for Cork (If a game went to ET in the Provincials, it would count as a draw in the overall table)

Out of the overall table of 12, bottom two teams play off in a relegation final

Could work the knockout format a few ways

Could have 3v6 and 4v5 in the QFs; winners play 1&2 in the AISFs

Could have 1v4 and 2v3 and then 5v8 and 6v7 like in Aussie Rules and NRL Down Under; Losers of the first set of games play the winners of the second set of games in the QFs

Go back to 2021 to use this as an example

Kilkenny beat Dublin in the LF and Limerick beat Tipp in the Munster Final

Wexford, Galway, Cork, and Clare were the SFs

Waterford, Laois, and Antrim were the QFs, let's add in Westmeath as the 12th team as they won Joe McDonagh that year

After the provincials were finished, the overall table would have been as follows

Limerick - 4 having played 2 games
Dublin - 4 having played 3 games
KK - 3 having played 2 games (Drew with Wexford after 70 in the LSF)
Wexford - 3 having played 2 games
Clare - 2 having played 2 games
Tipp - 2 having played 2 games
Galway - 2 having played 2 games (Giving them 2 here even though they didn't win a LQF but just assuming for simplicity that they wouldn't have beaten Westmeath)
Cork - 0 having played 1 game
Waterford - 0 having played 1 game
Westmeath - 0 having played 1 game
Antrim - 0 having played 1 game
Laois - 0 having played 1 game

Don't know if all teams would be able to play 3 games versus Leinster opposition and 3 games versus opposition given the 7v5 split (Unless they put Galway in Munster), could make it that you have to play two games against opposition from the other province

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1402 - 21/06/2026 18:40:53    2680942

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Am only thinking through it now but wonder would some version of the Swiss model work for the AISHC?

12 teams - 7 in Leinster and 5 in Munster (Bar when Kerry are in the AISHC)

Play off the provincials as normal but the results also count towards the overall table

So you end up with

Provincial finalists x4
Provincial semi-finalists x4
Provincial quarter-finalists x4

Have it that everyone one way or another has to play two of the provincial finalists, two of the provincial semi-finalists, and then two of the provincial quarter-finalists

So say like this year, Limerick beat Cork in the Munster Final; that would count as playing a Provincial finalist for both and would count as 2 points for Limerick in the overall table and 0 for Cork (If a game went to ET in the Provincials, it would count as a draw in the overall table)

Out of the overall table of 12, bottom two teams play off in a relegation final

Could work the knockout format a few ways

Could have 3v6 and 4v5 in the QFs; winners play 1&2 in the AISFs

Could have 1v4 and 2v3 and then 5v8 and 6v7 like in Aussie Rules and NRL Down Under; Losers of the first set of games play the winners of the second set of games in the QFs

Go back to 2021 to use this as an example

Kilkenny beat Dublin in the LF and Limerick beat Tipp in the Munster Final

Wexford, Galway, Cork, and Clare were the SFs

Waterford, Laois, and Antrim were the QFs, let's add in Westmeath as the 12th team as they won Joe McDonagh that year

After the provincials were finished, the overall table would have been as follows

Limerick - 4 having played 2 games
Dublin - 4 having played 3 games
KK - 3 having played 2 games (Drew with Wexford after 70 in the LSF)
Wexford - 3 having played 2 games
Clare - 2 having played 2 games
Tipp - 2 having played 2 games
Galway - 2 having played 2 games (Giving them 2 here even though they didn't win a LQF but just assuming for simplicity that they wouldn't have beaten Westmeath)
Cork - 0 having played 1 game
Waterford - 0 having played 1 game
Westmeath - 0 having played 1 game
Antrim - 0 having played 1 game
Laois - 0 having played 1 game

Don't know if all teams would be able to play 3 games versus Leinster opposition and 3 games versus opposition given the 7v5 split (Unless they put Galway in Munster), could make it that you have to play two games against opposition from the other province"
The Munster Council wont entertain a knockout Munster Championship. Even though many at grassroots level might not mind, especially in Tipp and Waterford, but also Clare.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20048 - 21/06/2026 20:22:49    2680989

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