Im from a division four club but will not name my club incase I get targeting for abuse. I have to say the standard is bad there is no decent clubs to be honest thats why they are in divison 4

101 (Down) - Posts: 10 - 11/11/2008 20:25:13    139046

Attitudes in the last few posts about Div 4 clubs are absymal. Division 4 clubs dont choose to be in Div 4 - they are there because of the circumstances they find themselves in (no players, adverse local conditions etc etc). The efforts that go into the management & running of Div 4 clubs is no less (& arguably more) than that of clubs such as Clonduff, Mayobridge, Liatroim etc (all good sound Clubs) but the return is the same (on the football field) given what each has got to work with. Anything less than a Div 1 placing for Clonduff, for example, would be seen as underachievement (quite rightly). Same for Bryansford, Castlewellan, Downpatrick etc (and some of these are falling well short of the mark). The biggest disgraces in Down are those clubs who should be producing the goods and who are not - their destiny (& their failures) is in their own hands unlike many Div 4 clubs who might struggle to gather up 15 players to make up a team. Div 4 Clubs should be supported more by the rest of the county rather than have their efforts ridiculed by small minded ***holes who can't see beyond their cushioned pavilioned seats.

Howler (Down) - Posts: 41 - 12/11/2008 01:08:52    139235

Well said howler couldn't have put it better myself. Our club will be 4th Div next year and as you say it is sometimes just about getting 15 men on the pitch. Support is what is required.

WestDownGael (Down) - Posts: 207 - 12/11/2008 10:23:21    139329

Finally the end is in sight for the Down leagues, who will win Div 1?

Saturday 15th Nov

ACFL Div 1 Semi Finals
Extra Time if Necessary
Pairc Esler (5 45)
Rostrevor v Kilcoo(C Brannigan)
Pairc Esler (7 30)
Mayobridge v Castlewellan(C Reynolds)

Sunday 16th
Div 3 Relegation Playoff
(1 00) Newcastle
St John Bosco v Teconnaught

A.Derg (Down) - Posts: 67 - 13/11/2008 12:45:50    140407

It would be hard to look past the Bridge.

Any word on when the Co Board will hear St Johns case ref the two failures to field - heard it was tomorrow night

Howler (Down) - Posts: 41 - 13/11/2008 13:29:20    140447

rules are rules lets see if our county has balls

dj27legend (Down) - Posts: 641 - 13/11/2008 18:28:14    140783

howler you dont know what you are talking about

leechiebuff (Down) - Posts: 192 - 13/11/2008 18:31:12    140785

They have to be stopped from being promoted simple as that, the rule book clearly states that once you fail to field twice in 1 league campaign then you have to be expelled from the league, SIMPLE AS THAT!!

My_Gee (Down) - Posts: 45 - 13/11/2008 22:23:31    141008

leechiebuff, what do you mean "You dont know what you are talking about"? I simply stated that I had heard the meeting was on this Friday night (& I did) & that it was a hearing re St Johns (Drumnaquoile) not fielding twice this season (as I understand they didnt from reading other posts in this thread.) How does any of that mean that I dont know what Im talking about?

Howler (Down) - Posts: 41 - 13/11/2008 22:53:52    141040

St Johns have did nothing wrong, The match against Finn was meaningless. Just people on here trying to stir for their own gains, ie, newry clubs!!!

Bigbadjonnie (Down) - Posts: 10 - 14/11/2008 21:51:34    141931

Bigbadjonnie:- "St Johns have did nothing wrong, The match against Finn was meaningless".

I believe you are missing the point here. Rules are rules and its not in the remit of any Club to decide that any game is "meaningless" - the leagues are designed to be completed irrespective of how important any particular game might be, at any particular time, to any particular Club. Would the Finn agree with St Johns not fielding - they were denied a game of football and obviously with their scoreboard record over the past few years its the football they enjoy. And its the football that they were denied by what I would consider was a selfish attitude by near neighbours St Johns. And unless St Johns can put up valid reasons for their failure to field (& maybe they can), the appropriate sanctions must be implemented so that the DCB maintain control and not the Club who consider itself above the law.

Howler (Down) - Posts: 41 - 14/11/2008 22:56:02    141975

bbj
whether a game is meaningless or meaningful it should be played, whether it is against The Finn, or Aghaderg,(and u didnt play either team). The Johnnies had twenty players available for the Aghaderg game but the mentors said no. Doesnt say much for them does it.

raafe77 (Down) - Posts: 2 - 14/11/2008 23:17:47    141985

did ya hear teconnaught stayed up?

jk16 (Down) - Posts: 2 - 17/11/2008 13:33:26    142941

Friday 21st Nov
Pairc Esler(6 30)
Div 2 Promotion Playoff
Annaclone v Warrenpoint(L Smyth)

Div 1 League Final
Pairc Esler(8 00)
Mayobridge v Kilcoo (G Tumelty)

Sunday 23rd Nov
2 00 An Riocht
Div 2 Promotion Playoff
Bryansford v Clann na Banna(E O Hare)

A.Derg (Down) - Posts: 67 - 18/11/2008 22:22:55    144438

is it true that the bosco went down cause teconnaught had a higher scoring difference??? if it is thats a disgrace. If for argument sake Aghaderg and Dromara finished level on points but dromara had a higher scoring difference would dromara have went up??? i ask this due to the ongoing saga of st johns not fielding, how many points were awarded to Aghaderg for the johnnies not fielding A.Derg??? and thats a perfectly good reason for st johns having to fulfil fixtures, they need the book thrown at them.

WestDownGael (Down) - Posts: 207 - 19/11/2008 12:26:16    144833

teconnaught did stay up on point difference. dromara wud not of went up, as the rule last year was passed by the majority of clubs at a county board meeting. the rule only cums into affect in play offs.

jk16 (Down) - Posts: 2 - 19/11/2008 14:01:08    144958

Westdowngael
What is your problem with St Johns??
You haven't a clue what your talkin about.
What boot are you throwing?? And why??

Bigbadjonnie (Down) - Posts: 10 - 19/11/2008 19:44:39    145361

your county leagues are a joke. your county board are poor.

corrinshego (Armagh) - Posts: 305 - 20/11/2008 20:32:30    146332

corrinshego.......if that rely is ur name;-(

away on ye go 2 ur wee orchard and pick some apples nd den shove them wer da sun dnt shine

at least down colours r respectable red nd black lethal..........orange hu picked it ur sister

leechiebuff (Down) - Posts: 192 - 20/11/2008 22:57:02    146509