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Replying To tirawleybaron: "once in 16 years doesn't qualify as "quite often"" Even our good friends in the North West will tell you different.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2873 - 20/06/2026 11:25:36
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Replying To tirawleybaron: "1 - Armagh
2 - Kerry
3 - Galway
4 - Cork
5 - Donegal
6 - Tyrone
7 - Westmeath
8 - Mayo
9 - Louth
10 - Monaghan
11 - Meath
12 - Dublin
13 - Roscommon
14 - Cavan
15 - Derry
16 - Kildare
17 - Offaly
18 - Down
19 - Fermanagh
20 - Wicklow
21 - Antrim
22 - Wexford
23 - Laois
24 - Sligo
25 - Longford
26 - Leitrim
27 - Tipperary
28 - Limerick
29 - Clare
30 - Carlow
31 - London
32 - Waterford" You can stick Armagh down a number of places. 1st for winning Ulster that included two extra time wins? In the league stay up on 5 points few do that ask Tyrone. All Ireland series underwhelming stuff in the manner of defeats to Louth and Kerry.
Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 4042 - 21/06/2026 04:57:36
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1 - Kerry
2 - Galway
3 - Cork
4 - Tyrone
5 - Louth
6 - Mayo
7 - Dublin
8 - Monaghan
9 - Armagh
10 - Donegal
11 - Meath
12 - Westmeath
13 - Roscommon
14 - Cavan
15 - Derry
16 - Down
17 - Kildare
18 - Wicklow
19 - Fermanagh
20 - Offaly
21 - Antrim
22 - Wexford
23 - Laois
24 - Sligo
25 - Longford
26 - Leitrim
27 - Tipperary
28 - Limerick
29 - Clare
30 - Carlow
31 - London
32 - Waterford
tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1992 - 22/06/2026 06:18:47
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Replying To tirawleybaron: "1 - Kerry
2 - Galway
3 - Cork
4 - Tyrone
5 - Louth
6 - Mayo
7 - Dublin
8 - Monaghan
9 - Armagh
10 - Donegal
11 - Meath
12 - Westmeath
13 - Roscommon
14 - Cavan
15 - Derry
16 - Down
17 - Kildare
18 - Wicklow
19 - Fermanagh
20 - Offaly
21 - Antrim
22 - Wexford
23 - Laois
24 - Sligo
25 - Longford
26 - Leitrim
27 - Tipperary
28 - Limerick
29 - Clare
30 - Carlow
31 - London
32 - Waterford" 1 - Kerry
2 - Louth
3 - Dublin
4 - Mayo
5 - Tyrone
6 - Monaghan
7 - Galway
8 - Cork
9 - Armagh
10 - Donegal
11 - Meath
12 - Westmeath
13 - Roscommon
14 - Cavan
15 - Derry
16 - Down
17 - Kildare
18 - Wicklow
19 - Fermanagh
20 - Offaly
21 - Antrim
22 - Wexford
23 - Laois
24 - Sligo
25 - Longford
26 - Leitrim
27 - Tipperary
28 - Limerick
29 - Clare
30 - Carlow
31 - London
32 - Waterford
tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1992 - 29/06/2026 09:14:59
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Rank - Tirawleybaron - Laoisman
1 - Kerry - Kerry
2 - Louth - Mayo
3 - Dublin - Louth
4 - Mayo - Cork
5 - Tyrone - Dublin
6 - Monaghan - Galway
7 - Galway - Tyrone
8 - Cork - Donegal
9 - Armagh - Armagh
10 - Donegal - Monaghan
11 - Meath - Meath
12 - Westmeath - Roscommon
13 - Roscommon - Westmeath
14 - Cavan - Down
15 - Derry - Derry
16 - Down - Kildare
17 - Kildare - Wicklow
18 - Wicklow - Offaly
19 - Fermanagh - Cavan
20 - Offaly - Fermanagh
21 - Antrim - Laois
22 - Wexford - Wexford
23 - Laois - Antrim
24 - Sligo - Limerick
25 - Longford - Sligo
26 - Leitrim - Longford
27 - Tipperary - Clare
28 - Limerick - Leitrim
29 - Clare - Tipperary
30 - Carlow - New York
31 - London - Carlow
32 - Waterford - London
33 - - Waterford
One is supposedly done on a whim - the other on scientific calculations.
Only 3 counties place differs by more than 3 places.
Science say Cork are better than i think they are but doesn't like Cavan and Monaghan.
tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1992 - 07/07/2026 11:47:35
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Replying To tirawleybaron: "1 - Kerry
2 - Louth
3 - Dublin
4 - Mayo
5 - Tyrone
6 - Monaghan
7 - Galway
8 - Cork
9 - Armagh
10 - Donegal
11 - Meath
12 - Westmeath
13 - Roscommon
14 - Cavan
15 - Derry
16 - Down
17 - Kildare
18 - Wicklow
19 - Fermanagh
20 - Offaly
21 - Antrim
22 - Wexford
23 - Laois
24 - Sligo
25 - Longford
26 - Leitrim
27 - Tipperary
28 - Limerick
29 - Clare
30 - Carlow
31 - London
32 - Waterford" 2 Louth denotes division2, I assume.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4857 - 09/07/2026 14:25:05
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Replying To Pope_Benedict: "2 Louth denotes division2, I assume." You assumed wrong.
Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6211 - 09/07/2026 15:51:53
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Replying To Greengrass: "You assumed wrong." Oh, so it's just that their 'ranking' happens to be the same number as their NFL division number, in 2026 and indeed 2027.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4857 - 09/07/2026 22:12:08
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Replying To Pope_Benedict: "Oh, so it's just that their 'ranking' happens to be the same number as their NFL division number, in 2026 and indeed 2027." Galway are class though - just not at football, or when it counts, or if comparing weather conditions, or traffic.
Still in all, ye can win an All Ireland when there is a Donnellan in the team. Any sign of another generation of them lads?
tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1992 - 10/07/2026 16:01:27
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Replying To tirawleybaron: "Galway are class though - just not at football, or when it counts, or if comparing weather conditions, or traffic.
Still in all, ye can win an All Ireland when there is a Donnellan in the team. Any sign of another generation of them lads?" I think I called it here. Div2 is div2, unless you're promoting, or you're Tyrone. As the great Louthman Jimmy Magee might have said 'different class'. The challenge for Mayo now is to avoid looking different class v Kerry too. Impossible to see Dublin 2026 winning tomorrow.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4857 - 11/07/2026 20:39:48
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1 - Kerry
2 - Mayo
3 - Dublin
4 - Louth
5 - Tyrone
6 - Monaghan
7 - Galway
8 - Cork
9 - Armagh
10 - Donegal
11 - Meath
12 - Westmeath
13 - Roscommon
14 - Cavan
15 - Derry
16 - Wicklow
17 - Down
18 - Kildare
19 - Fermanagh
20 - Offaly
21 - Antrim
22 - Wexford
23 - Laois
24 - Sligo
25 - Longford
26 - Leitrim
27 - Tipperary
28 - Limerick
29 - Clare
30 - Carlow
31 - London
32 - Waterford
Interesting that most counties in the top 16 would fancy their chances of making a semi final if they time their run next year.
I wonter how many will pull their punches in the league or provincials to do that.
tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1992 - 13/07/2026 04:31:31
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Replying To tirawleybaron: "1 - Kerry
2 - Mayo
3 - Dublin
4 - Louth
5 - Tyrone
6 - Monaghan
7 - Galway
8 - Cork
9 - Armagh
10 - Donegal
11 - Meath
12 - Westmeath
13 - Roscommon
14 - Cavan
15 - Derry
16 - Wicklow
17 - Down
18 - Kildare
19 - Fermanagh
20 - Offaly
21 - Antrim
22 - Wexford
23 - Laois
24 - Sligo
25 - Longford
26 - Leitrim
27 - Tipperary
28 - Limerick
29 - Clare
30 - Carlow
31 - London
32 - Waterford
Interesting that most counties in the top 16 would fancy their chances of making a semi final if they time their run next year.
I wonter how many will pull their punches in the league or provincials to do that." The league is where you usually establish your ranking. Not the provincials, or Sam championship, where you can get hard draws, soft draws, play in Ulster SFC, not play in Ulster etc. The NFL competition is by far the fairest of these competitions in format terms, and the one we place the least store in.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4857 - 13/07/2026 14:28:29
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Kerry always go for the league and they are the most successful county.
You may not always play the best available 15 but you always go for the win, developing players and engraining a style of play into the team.
When the pressure is on, the team that is most comfortable with how they play will react best.
Sometimes I wonder that these teams that "don't show their hand" end up not even knowing what their hand is themselves.
Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1974 - 13/07/2026 15:22:13
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Replying To Pope_Benedict: "The league is where you usually establish your ranking. Not the provincials, or Sam championship, where you can get hard draws, soft draws, play in Ulster SFC, not play in Ulster etc. The NFL competition is by far the fairest of these competitions in format terms, and the one we place the least store in." Agreed the fairest competition and congress had the opportunity a few years ago to make the league format the championship and turned it down.
As for timing runs. Let's take Mayo for example. They finish 3rd in Division 1 and beat Cork,Meath and Louth to reach the All-Ireland final who all played in Division 2 this year. A run timed or won games they were expected to win?
Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 938 - 13/07/2026 15:26:59
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Replying To tirawleybaron: "Rank - Tirawleybaron - Laoisman
1 - Kerry - Kerry
2 - Louth - Mayo
3 - Dublin - Louth
4 - Mayo - Cork
5 - Tyrone - Dublin
6 - Monaghan - Galway
7 - Galway - Tyrone
8 - Cork - Donegal
9 - Armagh - Armagh
10 - Donegal - Monaghan
11 - Meath - Meath
12 - Westmeath - Roscommon
13 - Roscommon - Westmeath
14 - Cavan - Down
15 - Derry - Derry
16 - Down - Kildare
17 - Kildare - Wicklow
18 - Wicklow - Offaly
19 - Fermanagh - Cavan
20 - Offaly - Fermanagh
21 - Antrim - Laois
22 - Wexford - Wexford
23 - Laois - Antrim
24 - Sligo - Limerick
25 - Longford - Sligo
26 - Leitrim - Longford
27 - Tipperary - Clare
28 - Limerick - Leitrim
29 - Clare - Tipperary
30 - Carlow - New York
31 - London - Carlow
32 - Waterford - London
33 - - Waterford
One is supposedly done on a whim - the other on scientific calculations.
Only 3 counties place differs by more than 3 places.
Science say Cork are better than i think they are but doesn't like Cavan and Monaghan." Sligo lost to leitrim and tipperary, how did they end up above them !?
Timmy86 (Sligo) - Posts: 378 - 13/07/2026 16:13:33
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Replying To Drax_the_destroyer: "Agreed the fairest competition and congress had the opportunity a few years ago to make the league format the championship and turned it down.
As for timing runs. Let's take Mayo for example. They finish 3rd in Division 1 and beat Cork,Meath and Louth to reach the All-Ireland final who all played in Division 2 this year. A run timed or won games they were expected to win?" They were expected to win them after they won them, everyone said before them they would lose them
Dmoa95 (UK) - Posts: 12 - 13/07/2026 16:35:50
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