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See the proposals are in for tomorrow nights committee meeting. They are as follows
Oulart & hurling advisory committee
2 groups of 6
Teams finishing 1,2,3 into quarters
4-5 into preliminary quarter final. 6th into relegation final
Kilrush and Oylegate
12 teams in each grade, divided into two groups of 6.
Top 4 into quarters
5th finished
6th into relegation
St Martins
Retain current structure except one change
6th place team into relegation semi final. 4th and 5th play preliminary quarter finals, loser plays in relegation semi, winner into quarters with 1,2,3 from groups
Proposal also to go back to block structure I.e hurling played to conclusion, football also.
Not sure the Oulart proposal as there is still no cut throat in it other than top 3. At least the bottom team goes to relegation. Would have liked to have seen a proposal with three groups of 4.
I hope the block one dosent pass. I absolutely hated the championships when they were like that. Hurling championship over in about 6 weeks. Ridiculous. Player gets injured and could be gone for season. They state
• Increased physical and mental demands on players, particularly dual players
• Higher risk of injury, particularly dual players
• Reduced preparation time for clubs
• Lower overall standard of championship matches
• Ongoing scheduling difficulties and uncertainty for clubs and supporters
Most clubs are dual so a higher risk is the same whether it's a block or not. There is no name to these proposals. I couldn't see this one passing.
alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 584 - 12/01/2026 20:22:05
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Sorry Horeswood and Oylegate ate the two teams for that proposal. As I said hope clubs see sense.
Other proposals are for u21. Mostly that not to play u21 until adult and minor is finished. Also just to go to a straight knockout. Then to reduce grades to 8 teams so more Divisons and basically three games.
alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 584 - 12/01/2026 21:11:17
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Replying To alwaysasub: "See the proposals are in for tomorrow nights committee meeting. They are as follows
Oulart & hurling advisory committee
2 groups of 6
Teams finishing 1,2,3 into quarters
4-5 into preliminary quarter final. 6th into relegation final
Kilrush and Oylegate
12 teams in each grade, divided into two groups of 6.
Top 4 into quarters
5th finished
6th into relegation
St Martins
Retain current structure except one change
6th place team into relegation semi final. 4th and 5th play preliminary quarter finals, loser plays in relegation semi, winner into quarters with 1,2,3 from groups
Proposal also to go back to block structure I.e hurling played to conclusion, football also.
Not sure the Oulart proposal as there is still no cut throat in it other than top 3. At least the bottom team goes to relegation. Would have liked to have seen a proposal with three groups of 4.
I hope the block one dosent pass. I absolutely hated the championships when they were like that. Hurling championship over in about 6 weeks. Ridiculous. Player gets injured and could be gone for season. They state
• Increased physical and mental demands on players, particularly dual players
• Higher risk of injury, particularly dual players
• Reduced preparation time for clubs
• Lower overall standard of championship matches
• Ongoing scheduling difficulties and uncertainty for clubs and supporters
Most clubs are dual so a higher risk is the same whether it's a block or not. There is no name to these proposals. I couldn't see this one passing." Horeswood and Oylegate proposed going back to the split season, their names are on the proposal. Its a very popular proposal with any players Ive talked to. It will be interesting to see do club reps/Executives poll their players, and vote accordingly. The biggest benefit of it would be the standard of hurling and football in our club championships would be way better. The biggest drawback would be it would hamper our champions in whichever code goes first in the subsequent Leinster Championships. A long break.
I can see the merits of the Oulart/HAC proposal myself, but equally most players Ive talked to seem to want the Oylegate/Askamore proposal, in other words go back to the Football style set up.
I agree, Id of liked to see the 4 groups of 3 proposed again. Cloughbawn proposed it last year. Not many clubs voted for it. If Id of known it wasn't being proposed again Id of asked our club to consider proposing it. We have too many club games as it is, with not enough knockout ones relative to the number of games in the League part of our championship.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17969 - 12/01/2026 21:22:39
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Replying To Viking66: "Horeswood and Oylegate proposed going back to the split season, their names are on the proposal. Its a very popular proposal with any players Ive talked to. It will be interesting to see do club reps/Executives poll their players, and vote accordingly. The biggest benefit of it would be the standard of hurling and football in our club championships would be way better. The biggest drawback would be it would hamper our champions in whichever code goes first in the subsequent Leinster Championships. A long break.
I can see the merits of the Oulart/HAC proposal myself, but equally most players Ive talked to seem to want the Oylegate/Askamore proposal, in other words go back to the Football style set up.
I agree, Id of liked to see the 4 groups of 3 proposed again. Cloughbawn proposed it last year. Not many clubs voted for it. If Id of known it wasn't being proposed again Id of asked our club to consider proposing it. We have too many club games as it is, with not enough knockout ones relative to the number of games in the League part of our championship." Sorry that should read 3 groups of 4
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17969 - 13/01/2026 08:06:23
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Replying To Viking66: "Horeswood and Oylegate proposed going back to the split season, their names are on the proposal. Its a very popular proposal with any players Ive talked to. It will be interesting to see do club reps/Executives poll their players, and vote accordingly. The biggest benefit of it would be the standard of hurling and football in our club championships would be way better. The biggest drawback would be it would hamper our champions in whichever code goes first in the subsequent Leinster Championships. A long break.
I can see the merits of the Oulart/HAC proposal myself, but equally most players Ive talked to seem to want the Oylegate/Askamore proposal, in other words go back to the Football style set up.
I agree, Id of liked to see the 4 groups of 3 proposed again. Cloughbawn proposed it last year. Not many clubs voted for it. If Id of known it wasn't being proposed again Id of asked our club to consider proposing it. We have too many club games as it is, with not enough knockout ones relative to the number of games in the League part of our championship." Surely we cant go back to split season and some teams finished hurling by the end of July? We need a more competitive championship format but to back to split season would be an awful step back.
Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 816 - 13/01/2026 09:01:33
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Replying To Afinestick96: "Surely we cant go back to split season and some teams finished hurling by the end of July? We need a more competitive championship format but to back to split season would be an awful step back." Finished by end of July but yet have played a number of higher quality club games back to back replicating the inter county format? Is it realistic club standards will improve stopping every two weeks to change sports and then social breaks for music festivals?
Yes, the trade off will mean club championship winners are unlikely to be as competitive in Leinster but a price worth paying in my view. Interest in the group stages this year must have been an all time low.
Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 483 - 13/01/2026 11:29:37
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Replying To alwaysasub: "Sorry Horeswood and Oylegate ate the two teams for that proposal. As I said hope clubs see sense.
Other proposals are for u21. Mostly that not to play u21 until adult and minor is finished. Also just to go to a straight knockout. Then to reduce grades to 8 teams so more Divisons and basically three games." Not a bad shout re u21. Would be a proper championship in its own right then. If players/clubs don't commit that's a different issue.
Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 483 - 13/01/2026 11:32:49
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Replying To Afinestick96: "Surely we cant go back to split season and some teams finished hurling by the end of July? We need a more competitive championship format but to back to split season would be an awful step back." Not sure it would be a step back. Some county lads who only hurl for their club, dont play football, made the point that the football championship time of the split season was actually their only downtime all year.
And any dual club players Ive spoken to about it made the point that their hurling in particular was way better when they were only hurling for a few months, instead of jumping back and forwards between codes.
Aside from our Champions doing better in Leinster what other benefits are there for not having a split season?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17969 - 13/01/2026 12:03:49
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Replying To Timbertony: "Finished by end of July but yet have played a number of higher quality club games back to back replicating the inter county format? Is it realistic club standards will improve stopping every two weeks to change sports and then social breaks for music festivals?
Yes, the trade off will mean club championship winners are unlikely to be as competitive in Leinster but a price worth paying in my view. Interest in the group stages this year must have been an all time low." Agree with all of your post.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17969 - 13/01/2026 12:04:45
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Replying To Timbertony: "Finished by end of July but yet have played a number of higher quality club games back to back replicating the inter county format? Is it realistic club standards will improve stopping every two weeks to change sports and then social breaks for music festivals?
Yes, the trade off will mean club championship winners are unlikely to be as competitive in Leinster but a price worth paying in my view. Interest in the group stages this year must have been an all time low." I would argue interest in the group stage was at an all time low due to the total lack of jepordary in the current format.
Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 816 - 13/01/2026 12:11:27
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Replying To Viking66: "Not sure it would be a step back. Some county lads who only hurl for their club, dont play football, made the point that the football championship time of the split season was actually their only downtime all year.
And any dual club players Ive spoken to about it made the point that their hurling in particular was way better when they were only hurling for a few months, instead of jumping back and forwards between codes.
Aside from our Champions doing better in Leinster what other benefits are there for not having a split season?" It means most club players in Wexford are playing the game from March until October. Rather than March to August. I think not all but the majority of clubs in the county train majority hurling I would say an average of 60 or 70% of time is spent hurling training . That means overall more club players being exposed to more hurling over a longer period and also our clubs have a much better chance at competing in Leinster which we seen this year with Martins and Davidstown and last year with Rathnure.
Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 816 - 13/01/2026 12:17:52
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I just can't help thinking how as little as two years ago, the split season was so "wrong" that there was an overwhelming majority of the order of 80 to 90% to get rid of it. Such an obvious majority anyway that there was no need even for a count.
Forum here is obviously just a small section of views, but if it's anything to go by, seems there's now a swing of opinion back towards having a split season after all. Just goes to show that with so many things, no mater what you do that's "right" at the time, it becomes "wrong" again just a short while later.
Can't help thinking much the same about the U21 championships. Seems inevitable they'll be put off until later in the year. But then nothing surer than it'll be into December before some of the finals can be played, with people hoping the frost melts before throw-in time and/or that pitches will still be playable after heavy rain, and complaints of "it's terrible that there's county finals not played until just a couple of weeks before Christmas, when they had the whole year to do it".
I'm long enough knocking around the block not to get too worked up over such things. And also knocking around long enough to know that whatever's decided tonight, it'll most be likely be changed again in a couple of years anyway.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3313 - 13/01/2026 13:27:40
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Replying To Afinestick96: "It means most club players in Wexford are playing the game from March until October. Rather than March to August. I think not all but the majority of clubs in the county train majority hurling I would say an average of 60 or 70% of time is spent hurling training . That means overall more club players being exposed to more hurling over a longer period and also our clubs have a much better chance at competing in Leinster which we seen this year with Martins and Davidstown and last year with Rathnure." I already said about the benefits to our hurling champions.
The other point you are making is actually one of the problems with the current structure. If a lad is jumping back and forth between hurling and football, two completely different sports in terms of basic skills required, then he is surely not going to improve as much at either code as he would if he concentrated on hurling from May to August, and then Football in September and October, which is how most clubs, even the dual ones, approached the split season. Most did several extra weeks of hurling in the run up to the hurling championship, while the last 2 years most have mixed training up between League and Championship.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17969 - 13/01/2026 16:00:13
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Replying To Pikeman96: "I just can't help thinking how as little as two years ago, the split season was so "wrong" that there was an overwhelming majority of the order of 80 to 90% to get rid of it. Such an obvious majority anyway that there was no need even for a count.
Forum here is obviously just a small section of views, but if it's anything to go by, seems there's now a swing of opinion back towards having a split season after all. Just goes to show that with so many things, no mater what you do that's "right" at the time, it becomes "wrong" again just a short while later.
Can't help thinking much the same about the U21 championships. Seems inevitable they'll be put off until later in the year. But then nothing surer than it'll be into December before some of the finals can be played, with people hoping the frost melts before throw-in time and/or that pitches will still be playable after heavy rain, and complaints of "it's terrible that there's county finals not played until just a couple of weeks before Christmas, when they had the whole year to do it".
I'm long enough knocking around the block not to get too worked up over such things. And also knocking around long enough to know that whatever's decided tonight, it'll most be likely be changed again in a couple of years anyway." That's about it Pikeman. I do know the motion is being brought at the request of the players at the clubs concerned.
I doubt it will pass, but we have consulted our own players on how they feel we should vote on it.
Just a small correction, there wasn't an 80-90% vote to get rid of the split season, there was in fact no seperate motion to retain it.
I agree there's probably no such thing as an ideal format/structure that will please everyone especially as we are a genuinely dual county, but I do know that the current system we have only works in Kilkenny because they have a split season. Football is played at a different time of year there.
As an aside they refer to the group stage as their League, they don't class it as Championship at all. They even play League finals between the group winners. Maybe we shouldn't class it as Championship either, mutton dressed as lamb calling it Championship.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17969 - 13/01/2026 16:16:05
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I think it is a very knee jerk reaction to have split season on the agenda after what has been probably one of the most successful Leinster Hurling campaigns in the last two seasons with Leinster Final wins at Senior / Intermediate and Junior.
By all means look at changing to format of the hurling and away from current model but do not go and then introduce split season too.
U21 should be straight knockout either played at start of season or end of season - no back door, no second chance.
MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 279 - 13/01/2026 16:19:40
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Replying To MyOhMi: "I think it is a very knee jerk reaction to have split season on the agenda after what has been probably one of the most successful Leinster Hurling campaigns in the last two seasons with Leinster Final wins at Senior / Intermediate and Junior.
By all means look at changing to format of the hurling and away from current model but do not go and then introduce split season too.
U21 should be straight knockout either played at start of season or end of season - no back door, no second chance." Its not a knee jerk reaction at all. Many players in the county preferred the split season when it was in.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17969 - 13/01/2026 18:10:21
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