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See the post above that I was writing around the time you were writing this one :) The players and clubs want the structure that gives so many matches and therefore so many opportunities to qualify for the knock-out stages. People would no doubt complain if County Board went against this and changed to something like groups of four or even groups of three. But when it comes to having to line out for so many weekends in a row to get so many matches played, then there's a different complaint, that it's all too much and players need a break. Again, can't have it both ways unless our county teams go out of their own championships early, and nobody wants that either. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3982 - 04/09/2026 12:33:09 2692692 Link 0 |
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Tail wagging the dog comes to mind!
Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 600 - 04/09/2026 13:05:09 2692702 Link 0 |
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I'm not sure if players really do want that structure, albeit as a player I don't attend too many meetings so that's on players to make more of an effort there. I think it is no coincidence that Castletown in football and St. Martins are becoming so dominant within the structure. They are dual clubs to be fair but they have 20+ players more than equipped for senior football/hurling whereas some clubs are extremely dependent on the same 17/18 players and all the group games take their toll and by the time the business end comes around makes surprise results far less likely.
hownow1 (Wexford) - Posts: 8 - 04/09/2026 13:25:12 2692709 Link 0 |
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Couple of points on that. Thats not what im saying at all. In fact if I had my way id have more than 1 break week. But that involves sacrificing things that the said same players aren't willing to do, it involves the same players making tough decisions something again we abdicate for them. Personally id have a reduction in the amount of games we play in championship but on the flip side a ramp up in the consequences of each game where there's more pressure, more riding on these games. Across both codes But guaranteed if there's a proposal for less games the said same players will say no, cant have that. If theres a proposal for more pressure games, jesus no cant have that. Propose foregoing leinster club championships and uts no cant have that either. Oh and we want rhe county team to go far and we want EP weekend off so around 10% of fhe players in total can go for a session in a field! And when asked how's it going to work the answer will be "shur just make it work" as we have actually seen here. Do what the HAC has done and turn the hurling championship into an almost go games scenario making things worse and it will be lapped up no problem. Thats where my issue lies, the fact that people are thinking "oh if the county team goes far in the championship what are we going to do about EP break sums up the problem here. Not will have enough time for championships in total, what pitches, refs, chaps starting college, trying to get underage games done also etc etc" And secondly it takes more than players to run a championship. What about everyone else, should they get a say? The fella who's in the pitch 5 nights a week helping coach u derage teams whilst doing the same with adult team giving up practically all his free time, should he not get a say cos I guarantee in every club theres at least 2 or 3 of those. So yes im all for having breaks, in fact id like to see more of them but breaks that work for everyone involved. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1690 - 04/09/2026 13:54:18 2692713 Link 0 |
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Nearly all the Martins and Castletown first team players are on both their Football and Hurling 1st teams. Gorey are the club with the most different players playing 1st team in each code, followed I think by Shels, although Shels still have over half their 1st teams playing both codes for their 1st teams.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20634 - 04/09/2026 14:35:54 2692722 Link 0 |
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Our players were polled. Most wanted 3 groups of 4.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20634 - 04/09/2026 14:37:17 2692724 Link 0 |
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Think the players constitute more than the tail of the dog of playing matches.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20634 - 04/09/2026 14:41:20 2692726 Link 0 |
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Clubs are always encouraged to consult with their players before deciding how to vote at the meetings on championship structures. I know however that unfortunately, many clubs don't actually do this. But it doesn't have to involve players actually going to a meeting. Every club is supposed to have a Players' Representative on their committee, and this must be somebody who played championship in the previous year. This is in the overall Rule Book and is not just something either I or Wexford GAA are making up. My club has quite a good one and he consults with the other players via a WhatsApp group and some phone calls every year when it comes time to make those decisions. If you don't mind me suggesting, that could be your first step if you really feel you don't have a voice in it. But to put your head on the block (!), as a player yourself, which of these would you choose? - a) groups of four so there are less matches and more chances of a weekend off. b) groups of six so there are more chances of going through to the knockout stages, but less chances of a weekend off. "Groups of six but with more weekends off" isn't an option for all the reasons outlined already and several times before. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3982 - 04/09/2026 14:57:58 2692731 Link 0 |