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Where does Horgan stand in hurling greats. Celtic crosses aside, is he in the top 10 of all time???? Bigjoe1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 72 - 23/09/2025 18:36:06 2637223 Link
Replying To Bigjoe1: "Where does Horgan stand in hurling greats. Celtic crosses aside, is he in the top 10 of all time????" I think top 10 is a massive statement considering he didn't win one. He is up there though being the top scorer of all time. Gutted he didn't get there but he has been incredible. He may have more to offer Cork in the future. BaldyBadger (Cork) - Posts: 329 - 23/09/2025 20:02:37 2637226 Link
Replying To Bigjoe1: "Where does Horgan stand in hurling greats. Celtic crosses aside, is he in the top 10 of all time????" No disrespect to the guy but top 10 for sure of players to never win an AI but top 10 of all time? No way. The question for me is was he let down by the Cork teams he played on or did the losing four finals reflect on him? Maybe a bit of both but interesting stat - he played in five AI finals (includes 2013 replay) and scored 0-47 of which 0-38 were frees. Thats 0-9 from play in five games. Not terrible but not great for your top scorer. I dont remember him playing badly in a final but equally I dont remember him tearing up trees Yadse (Limerick) - Posts: 195 - 23/09/2025 20:21:46 2637230 Link
Replying To Bigjoe1: "Where does Horgan stand in hurling greats. Celtic crosses aside, is he in the top 10 of all time????" Fine hurler and nice fella, but top 10 of all time? I doubt that he'd even make the top 10 free takers of all time. I even seriously doubt that he'd make the greatest Cork 15 of all time, or even of the past 50 years, and 21 of those have been quite barren. Now, I wish him the very best in retirement and am sad to see him go. foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2380 - 23/09/2025 20:29:47 2637231 Link
Replying To Bigjoe1: "Where does Horgan stand in hurling greats. Celtic crosses aside, is he in the top 10 of all time????" Top 25. There's a lot of great hurlers to consider from every era. SouthGalway (Galway) - Posts: 19 - 23/09/2025 20:31:33 2637232 Link
Replying To Bigjoe1: "Where does Horgan stand in hurling greats. Celtic crosses aside, is he in the top 10 of all time????" No disrespect to the guy but top 10 for sure of players to never win an AI but top 10 of all time? No way. The question for me is was he let down by the Cork teams he played on or did the losing four finals reflect on him? Maybe a bit of both but interesting stat - he played in five AI finals (includes 2013 replay) and scored 0-47 of which 0-38 were frees. Thats 0-9 from play in five games. Not terrible but not great for your top scorer. I dont remember him playing badly in a final but equally I dont remember him tearing up trees Yadse (Limerick) - Posts: 195 - 23/09/2025 20:39:07 2637233 Link
Replying To foreveryoung: "Fine hurler and nice fella, but top 10 of all time? I doubt that he'd even make the top 10 free takers of all time. I even seriously doubt that he'd make the greatest Cork 15 of all time, or even of the past 50 years, and 21 of those have been quite barren. Now, I wish him the very best in retirement and am sad to see him go." I know where you're coming from and when the post was put up I thought no way, but top scorer of all time deserves some recognition. Not top 10 maybe, but some people state that Reid is the best of all time which I also think is crazy. I would put Reid and Horgan in the same conversation albeit you can't argue with Reid's medal haul. Horgan is a Cork great, but like Reid with Kilkenny, there were other players better in Cork and Ireland. He owes Cork nothing and will walk anywhere in the county and command the upmost respect. BaldyBadger (Cork) - Posts: 329 - 23/09/2025 21:04:03 2637234 Link
Replying To Yadse: "No disrespect to the guy but top 10 for sure of players to never win an AI but top 10 of all time? No way. The question for me is was he let down by the Cork teams he played on or did the losing four finals reflect on him? Maybe a bit of both but interesting stat - he played in five AI finals (includes 2013 replay) and scored 0-47 of which 0-38 were frees. Thats 0-9 from play in five games. Not terrible but not great for your top scorer. I dont remember him playing badly in a final but equally I dont remember him tearing up trees" It's a lot better than TJ Reid has managed in his last 4 All-Ireland finals, which is a combined total of 1 point from play. All finals which Kilkenny lost. TJ is obviously one of the greats, but it can be argued he didn't step up in those finals. He has credit in the bank of course from Kilkenny's golden era, but it's worth remembering he was surrounded by greats on that team. Horgan certainly wasn't at any stage. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2551 - 23/09/2025 21:38:13 2637236 Link
Top 10 maybe it the modern era, but throughout history probably not DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 327 - 23/09/2025 21:39:33 2637237 Link
Replying To BaldyBadger: "I think top 10 is a massive statement considering he didn't win one. He is up there though being the top scorer of all time. Gutted he didn't get there but he has been incredible. He may have more to offer Cork in the future." Very balanced. Fair play. slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6567 - 23/09/2025 21:48:18 2637238 Link
Top ten of all time would mean ahead of five of the Hurling Team of the Millennium, and ahead of DJ Carey and Nickey Rackard (both of whom were controversially left off that selection), and ahead of any number of other great hurlers from the past 25 years. So - would he make top ten of all time? Absolutely no way. But - would he make a team of the best-ever who didn't win an All-Ireland? Absolutely. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3117 - 23/09/2025 22:25:21 2637240 Link
he wouldnt make the top 10 cork hurlers of all time .....this is part of corks problem making super heroes out of players that won nothing, munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1151 - 23/09/2025 23:29:52 2637246 Link
There will be a lot of things written and interviews over the next week.for me I think pat Horgan was a very good forward but I think I'd struggle to even include him in a cork top 10.. Yes a brilliant free taker but a lot of times he didn't do a lot from general play..I know this is going to be very controversial..yes he played when cork were at a low ebb,but would he be a jbm cashman,an o Sullivan Sullivan.where he would have ale a game by the scruff of the neck and produce heroics,not for me. I hope he enjoys his retirement now and after the service he has given cork he doesn't owe anything.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2599 - 23/09/2025 23:41:38 2637249 Link
Replying To foreveryoung: "Fine hurler and nice fella, but top 10 of all time? I doubt that he'd even make the top 10 free takers of all time. I even seriously doubt that he'd make the greatest Cork 15 of all time, or even of the past 50 years, and 21 of those have been quite barren. Now, I wish him the very best in retirement and am sad to see him go." The usual ole tripe from the yank. This fella was a wizard with magical wrists. He scored point from angles you wouldn't see anywhere. I watched him grow up down the Glen field, and you knew from the off he was going to be a star. I remember telling some friends about him when he was only 13 because that field was his second home, with him literally practicing morning, noon and night. He definitely would make the greatest Cork team of all time, and I'm sure anyone watching him closely for club and county over the last 20 years would agree. Enjoy your retirement Hoggie. One of the greatest... bloodandbandage (Cork) - Posts: 445 - 24/09/2025 07:58:11 2637254 Link
zero all irelands countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 898 - 24/09/2025 09:02:07 2637259 Link
Replying To countyman2022: "zero all irelands" The same tally as Ken McGrath and Ollie Canning and plenty other top class hurlers. Hurling is a team sport. Geography and timing has a lot to do with how many All-Irelands some players have. Horgan was a very skillful hurler. His performance against Kilkenny in the 2019 quarter-final was incredible. The goal he scored from his knees was something you don't see too often. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2551 - 24/09/2025 10:03:04 2637267 Link
Replying To countyman2022: "zero all irelands" Assume you'll say the same about Lee Chin when he retires???? btw, Lee chin is a hurling great also bloodandbandage (Cork) - Posts: 445 - 24/09/2025 10:34:40 2637271 Link
Replying To countyman2022: "zero all irelands" Well spotted. Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2516 - 24/09/2025 10:54:36 2637274 Link
Best of luck to Patrick Horgan in his retirement and a great role model for kids.A brilliant career and a truly great player. All Ireland medals has nothing to do with a players greatness.Lesser players that play on much better teams will win more medals.Players should be judged on the skill and importance to their team and Payrick is high on both those lists. CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 4082 - 24/09/2025 10:55:22 2637275 Link
Great servant to Cork hurling, a serious bit of stuff. May not have won Liam but to me he's one of a lucky group of people who get to pull on the jersey of one of the most iconic hurling clubs in the country on a weekly basis, and will continue to do so for some time I'd imagine. Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2516 - 24/09/2025 10:57:28 2637276 Link