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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Watching the Munster Final yesterday and it struck me just how few times either team had a pop at the posts from a long way out in open play, seemed to prefer hitting the diagonal ball into the full-forward line even when they were in space around the halfway line

I suppose that in comparison, we shoot a lot more often from those positions, you'd think that if Cork and Limerick are the two best teams in the country and they're passing rather than shooting from those areas, we're doing it wrong if we're shooting rather than passing (If you're in a position to shoot, you're in a position to pass and the forwards are in there to score, backs are picked for reasons other than scoring)

Also quite clear that we had no plan in possession when teams pushed up against us, played decently at times when afforded time and space and made some nice moves (Carlow and Kildare in the league, first half against Offaly and Galway in the Championship) but when the intensity upped, we just resorted to going long, didn't even try to be brave and work it out short, no clear game-plan and players had no clear idea of what they were supposed to do in possession

A major contrast to Limerick who know that (a) they want to go short off puck-outs, (b) they know the positions they should be in for those puck-outs, (c) they know where they need to reach i.e. the 65m line, and (d) they know the things they have to do in order to work the ball out from the puck-out to the 65m line"
You are missing the whole point to a short game. Quaid and Collins are able to ping a ball 40-60 yards into a teammates hand as hes running with a marker running behind him.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19972 - 08/06/2026 18:54:03    2678730

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Replying To Viking66:  "You are missing the whole point to a short game. Quaid and Collins are able to ping a ball 40-60 yards into a teammates hand as hes running with a marker running behind him."
Yes but there's more to playing an effective short game than just the GK though, there were numerous times this year when we could've tried to work it out of defence but resorted to lumping it long (Where we would invariably lost the battle for primary possession) and these situations didn't have much to do with Fanning

Although I do agree that his distribution is an issue

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1382 - 09/06/2026 10:11:22    2678764

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The Dublin game plan was very one dimensional against Galway - move the ball to half back line and lamp it in. That may work once or twice but defenders are so good now (and strong) that they quickly snuff that type of game out. Surprised as when Niall O C was with Na Fianna he had them play a good snappy short game. Contrast that to the Joe McDonagh final, which was very very poor, and Carlow drove 22 wides with a shoot on sight approach. Limerick (and all the best teams) are so meticulous with their shooting - get it to the shooters, if the shot isn't on then recycle it.

MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 325 - 09/06/2026 13:36:39    2678771

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Replying To MyOhMi:  "The Dublin game plan was very one dimensional against Galway - move the ball to half back line and lamp it in. That may work once or twice but defenders are so good now (and strong) that they quickly snuff that type of game out. Surprised as when Niall O C was with Na Fianna he had them play a good snappy short game. Contrast that to the Joe McDonagh final, which was very very poor, and Carlow drove 22 wides with a shoot on sight approach. Limerick (and all the best teams) are so meticulous with their shooting - get it to the shooters, if the shot isn't on then recycle it."
I'd say the areas Carlow were shooting from didn't help them

I'd say that if you looked at the data, you're obviously more accurate when shooting inside the 45 compared to when you're shooting from outside of it but if you're going to shoot from outside of the 45, you should be doing so from central areas, shouldn't be shooting from distance out on the wing

Like if you drew an arc from either sideline on the 45m out to the centre of 65m line, you shouldn't really be shooting outside of that arc

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1382 - 09/06/2026 14:30:42    2678774

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Yes but there's more to playing an effective short game than just the GK though, there were numerous times this year when we could've tried to work it out of defence but resorted to lumping it long (Where we would invariably lost the battle for primary possession) and these situations didn't have much to do with Fanning

Although I do agree that his distribution is an issue"
We picked a goalkeeper that can't really play a proper short game, and it was apparent that we did very little work in training on long puckouts, we never even got lads to the quarters under the dropping ball.
By that Im not blaming Mark Fanning for our situation. If you have your mind made up that hes your number 1, then surely to god its your responsibility to devise decent long puckout moves.
Im sure you were at the Kildare game. Remember all the different movement Dowling had his lads doing pre puckout to make space and support the lad under the dropping ball. Usually it started with them dragging Richie over to one sideline or the other, leaving space up the middle, which in fairness to Keith Rossiter he did spot himself. He shouted over to Richie to hold the middle, and tried to get the wingforward on that side and a midfielder to cover the 11 when he moved across. Ideally you would also push your cornerback up to the 12 o'clock quarter then as well.
We did nothing particularly inventive/noticeable with our long puckouts.
The only thing I noticed about them was it was usually our opponents who ended up with the ball.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19972 - 09/06/2026 19:39:11    2678783

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Replying To MyOhMi:  "The Dublin game plan was very one dimensional against Galway - move the ball to half back line and lamp it in. That may work once or twice but defenders are so good now (and strong) that they quickly snuff that type of game out. Surprised as when Niall O C was with Na Fianna he had them play a good snappy short game. Contrast that to the Joe McDonagh final, which was very very poor, and Carlow drove 22 wides with a shoot on sight approach. Limerick (and all the best teams) are so meticulous with their shooting - get it to the shooters, if the shot isn't on then recycle it."
Limerick had a lot of wides last Sunday. Far more than Cork.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2693 - 09/06/2026 22:15:39    2678787

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Peter Queally has stepped down as Waterford manager. I hope our county board don't dilly / dally now for the next 6/8 weeks with Rossiter - He knows himself at this stage if he wishes to stay or go. Kilkenny have already announced their new minor setup for 2027. If we are to get a new manager, it needs to be sorted before the knock out stage of hurling championship.

MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 325 - 10/06/2026 08:54:48    2678807

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Replying To MyOhMi:  "Peter Queally has stepped down as Waterford manager. I hope our county board don't dilly / dally now for the next 6/8 weeks with Rossiter - He knows himself at this stage if he wishes to stay or go. Kilkenny have already announced their new minor setup for 2027. If we are to get a new manager, it needs to be sorted before the knock out stage of hurling championship."
Sooner than that imo

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19972 - 10/06/2026 09:44:43    2678814

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Replying To MyOhMi:  "Peter Queally has stepped down as Waterford manager. I hope our county board don't dilly / dally now for the next 6/8 weeks with Rossiter - He knows himself at this stage if he wishes to stay or go. Kilkenny have already announced their new minor setup for 2027. If we are to get a new manager, it needs to be sorted before the knock out stage of hurling championship."
Couldnt agree more . We need the management team in place for the early rounds of the championship in my opinion.

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 1102 - 10/06/2026 10:15:54    2678823

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Replying To Afinestick96:  "Couldnt agree more . We need the management team in place for the early rounds of the championship in my opinion."
Yes ideally - but cannot see that happening to be honest - Had Rossiter announced his retirement after the Galway game then the process could have begun. Still nothing from him or his management team. Throw holidays etc. into the equation now and you will see how difficult it is to tyr and get anything in place before September

MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 325 - 10/06/2026 12:05:52    2678852

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Replying To MyOhMi:  "Yes ideally - but cannot see that happening to be honest - Had Rossiter announced his retirement after the Galway game then the process could have begun. Still nothing from him or his management team. Throw holidays etc. into the equation now and you will see how difficult it is to tyr and get anything in place before September"
That will be a disaster if it doesnt happen until then. Is Rossiters contract not up anyway? If it is is it not the county boards job to go get the new management team in place?

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 1102 - 10/06/2026 12:31:48    2678856

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Looking back to 2023, it was the middle of July before it was announced that Darragh Egan wasn't being retained, and middle of August when it was announced that Rossiter was being recommended for the job. He was ratified by the County Board at the end of that month.

Of course, timelines might work completely differently this time round, but that might give some indication of what to expect.

Worth bearing mind that three years ago, Rossiter was maybe seen as the "obvious" candidate when there wasn't exactly a crowd beating down the door, as he'd previously been a selector with Davy before spending two years with the U20s. Don't think anybody out there could be described as equally "obvious" this time.

True that Rossiter was given a three-year term and so his time is now up anyway, so I suppose strictly speaking, Co. Board would be free to begin a search for next manager anyway. But I also suppose Rossiter would still be as entitled as anybody else to throw his hat back into the ring if he wanted to stay on, so would expect that talking to him would be part of the process anyway.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3760 - 10/06/2026 14:12:50    2678867

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I heard that Rossiter has told them team a few days before the Galway game that this was probably his last game as manager, might be more rumour than fact though

In all honesty, I'd imagine our managerial search will/should end after Kilkenny's does, you'd imagine Mullally will be waiting to see whether he gets the KK job first, he should be one of the main options we have (Whether he would take the job is another question altogether)

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1382 - 10/06/2026 14:46:17    2678871

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Looking back to 2023, it was the middle of July before it was announced that Darragh Egan wasn't being retained, and middle of August when it was announced that Rossiter was being recommended for the job. He was ratified by the County Board at the end of that month.

Of course, timelines might work completely differently this time round, but that might give some indication of what to expect.

Worth bearing mind that three years ago, Rossiter was maybe seen as the "obvious" candidate when there wasn't exactly a crowd beating down the door, as he'd previously been a selector with Davy before spending two years with the U20s. Don't think anybody out there could be described as equally "obvious" this time.

True that Rossiter was given a three-year term and so his time is now up anyway, so I suppose strictly speaking, Co. Board would be free to begin a search for next manager anyway. But I also suppose Rossiter would still be as entitled as anybody else to throw his hat back into the ring if he wanted to stay on, so would expect that talking to him would be part of the process anyway."
As far as I know we didnt have any applicants for the job when Keith got it. Not even Keith.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19972 - 10/06/2026 15:17:27    2678876

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Replying To Viking66:  "As far as I know we didnt have any applicants for the job when Keith got it. Not even Keith."
The application process is pretty strict too - possibly a standard one across GAA whereby you have to outline your proposal to be manager .. budget .. backroom team etc etc .. and it's not a quick 1 or 2 hour application

MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 325 - 10/06/2026 16:26:55    2678887

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Replying To MyOhMi:  "The application process is pretty strict too - possibly a standard one across GAA whereby you have to outline your proposal to be manager .. budget .. backroom team etc etc .. and it's not a quick 1 or 2 hour application"
So its not a case lads are approached and if interested send in the application? Didnt realise they would have to outline budgets etc.

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 1102 - 10/06/2026 16:46:55    2678892

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what wexford need is a top class coach. i saw a few of the wexford games this year and was no method to there play.....i know there isnt a paul kinnerk in every county but there must be a good sharp coach in wexford. i know limerick have some good players but without kinnerk they wouldnt have been half as successful. the day of putting 15 hurlers on the field and hope for the nest is well gone.

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1157 - 10/06/2026 17:30:36    2678899

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Replying To MyOhMi:  "The application process is pretty strict too - possibly a standard one across GAA whereby you have to outline your proposal to be manager .. budget .. backroom team etc etc .. and it's not a quick 1 or 2 hour application"
Absolutely not. Its a huge job.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19972 - 10/06/2026 18:55:46    2678912

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Replying To Afinestick96:  "So its not a case lads are approached and if interested send in the application? Didnt realise they would have to outline budgets etc."
Oh yeah. The application and interview process and the considerations that follow are very thorough. They have to be.

You couldn't just quickly tell somebody "that's grand, you can have the job" and only find out afterwards who they want in their backroom or that they're demanding that huge money be spent on the team.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3760 - 10/06/2026 19:31:55    2678917

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I heard that Rossiter has told them team a few days before the Galway game that this was probably his last game as manager, might be more rumour than fact though

In all honesty, I'd imagine our managerial search will/should end after Kilkenny's does, you'd imagine Mullally will be waiting to see whether he gets the KK job first, he should be one of the main options we have (Whether he would take the job is another question altogether)"
He may well have said that all right, but it could have been said in a number of different ways, e.g. "probably my last game because I've decided I probably won't stay on anyway", or "probably my last game because I probably won't be kept on even if I want to stay".

And yeah, could well be the case that the fact that Waterford and Kilkenny are also looking for managers might have an impact on our own timelines.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3760 - 10/06/2026 19:34:01    2678918

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