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Wonder how they will work the combined colleges teams, am guessing you can choose either hurling or football but not both
I support the initiative but it's not without its challenges, the combined schools QF was on November 8th last year and with us joining, we'd have a 2/3s chance of being out around that date in 2026
Schools only starting back in September and then you'd have underage finals and their own schools matches at the same time, not forgetting club and school training
In the interests of player welfare, you'd think the combined colleges training sessions should be just pure ball-work
Might make sense to have the hurling and the football sessions on at the same time in the same place to create more carpooling opportunities, would make it easier on parents
I dunno, could do something like 1 hour of a ballwork session on a Wednesday evening from September onwards and then 90 minutes of ballwork every Sunday morning, would be difficult to get games but could maybe have 2-3 games around the mid-term break
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1343 - 29/05/2026 10:32:45
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I know Viking has mentioned it and I've half-suggested it before but we should look to extend the scope of ASH and mimic Clare's winter structures
6 weeks before Christmas, 4 weeks in the New Year
Two indoor sessions a week; 60 minutes on a Wednesday and 90 minutes on a Sunday morning
Divided North and South
Three groups each night: U10s & U11s, U12s & U13s, and then U14s and U15s
Have to have two coaches each night but don't want anyone having to coach three sessions on the one night so solution would be to have four coaches there each night (A, B, C, and D). A & B would cover U10s and U11s, B&C would cover U12s & U13s, and then C&D would cover U14s and U15s
Four coaches each night and there'd be North and South, twenty different dates so you'd need 160 coaching slots to be filled. If you could find 40 coaches to take up 4 slots, then that's sorted
Could rope in the coaches employed by the CB, development squad coaches, former players, and current players
Suppose a lot of kids would love to be coached by current and former players, a lot of people might not be able to coach for twenty nights but four might be doable
Cost per child is €60, would get an ASH jersey each year + a wall ball
If you did that year in, year out, I'd say it'd be a big help alright, if you did these twenty extra sessions for 6 years, that's 120 sessions more than what we're doing now
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1343 - 29/05/2026 10:41:34
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "I know Viking has mentioned it and I've half-suggested it before but we should look to extend the scope of ASH and mimic Clare's winter structures
6 weeks before Christmas, 4 weeks in the New Year
Two indoor sessions a week; 60 minutes on a Wednesday and 90 minutes on a Sunday morning
Divided North and South
Three groups each night: U10s & U11s, U12s & U13s, and then U14s and U15s
Have to have two coaches each night but don't want anyone having to coach three sessions on the one night so solution would be to have four coaches there each night (A, B, C, and D). A & B would cover U10s and U11s, B&C would cover U12s & U13s, and then C&D would cover U14s and U15s
Four coaches each night and there'd be North and South, twenty different dates so you'd need 160 coaching slots to be filled. If you could find 40 coaches to take up 4 slots, then that's sorted
Could rope in the coaches employed by the CB, development squad coaches, former players, and current players
Suppose a lot of kids would love to be coached by current and former players, a lot of people might not be able to coach for twenty nights but four might be doable
Cost per child is €60, would get an ASH jersey each year + a wall ball
If you did that year in, year out, I'd say it'd be a big help alright, if you did these twenty extra sessions for 6 years, that's 120 sessions more than what we're doing now" I think it is a good idea - anything that keeps kids hurling in the winter months and away from screens is a benefit.
For me a simple idea to reward coaches is to maybe give them a Wexford GAA Season pass and some gear. Nothing mad but recognition to say thank you for devoting your time.
The ASH programme worked pretty well this year and they normally finish up with the Micky Laffan tournament in July
MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 317 - 29/05/2026 11:11:46
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Replying To StoreysTash: "Wexford, Waterford, Kilkenny and Tipp should set up their own Summer championship for the next month or so. Use it as an opportunity to blood players, round robin, top two into final.....................the south east league." We are currently at semi finals stage of our own leagues with finals to follow and a high likelihood of our championship starting in 4 weeks and maybe 5 weeks at a push.
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Replying To tearintom: "We are currently at semi finals stage of our own leagues with finals to follow and a high likelihood of our championship starting in 4 weeks and maybe 5 weeks at a push." I do think Wexford GAA need to do a big PR push on our local championship this summer - Wexford out of championships in May and a summer of world cup soccer coming up with a shed load of games been broadcast. No need for big billboards or anything but plenty on social media etc to keep the interest in GAA up .. Little or nothing mentioned about this weekends league semi finals apart from what Clubber has posted with regards to broadcasting both of them.
MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 317 - 29/05/2026 12:14:20
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Was thinking recently about just how rare it is for us to beat KK to at Minor or U20 level in the last 20 years
Off the top of my head, we beat them at Minor in 2013, 2019, 2024, and 2026 and we beat them at U20 in 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2023 (2026 the only time we drew with them, I think)
And as we've spoken about before, the only time we beat Galway in that timeframe at either Minor or U20 was in 2014 in the U21 AISF (U20 Leinster SF the only time this year we didn't lose to them after the regulation 60 minutes were up)
Were able to get to Leinster underage finals back in the day without having to play either Kilkenny or Dublin, impossible to get there now without playing one of Kilkenny, Dublin, and Galway, need to get over our Galway hoodoo at that level if we're looking to make (And win) Leinster titles at Minor and U20 level" Had another look at this and it's crazy….
After beating them in the 1985 Leinster Minor final, the next time we beat Kilkenny at the grade was in 2013
Beat them at U21 level in 1986, 1987, 1996, 1997, 2001, and 2002 as well
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1343 - 29/05/2026 12:37:53
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Had another look at this and it's crazy….
After beating them in the 1985 Leinster Minor final, the next time we beat Kilkenny at the grade was in 2013
Beat them at U21 level in 1986, 1987, 1996, 1997, 2001, and 2002 as well" That figure at minor shows just how poor we were at developing young players from the 80s to the noughties. And the reason for that was there was no real effort put into it except in a minority of clubs. A few people Ive been talking to who were on county minor teams in the 80s said some years they were lucky to play in 4 or 6 club games a year from u8 to u16. In fact they said there were no games at u8 in many clubs.
If you were lucky enough to go to Peters or Counsel, or Mary's in the late 80s, you would get some high standard competitive games, and also at college. Though a higher percentage of people here didnt go to college in the 80s and 90s. There was no local college back then either, though more lads went to WIT, not sure why more dont nowadays.
Even into the teens we did next to no S and C work with minors or lower.
Watching county underage games back then reminded me of reading Jonathan Swift, and we were the little people of Lilliput, and we were the same off the field with lads arguing amongst ourselves over nonsense.
Even the 2019 Leinster minor team were very small compared to Galway in the AIMSF. As in slight, not just short.
And just to remind our visitor from Limerick, Limerick didnt win a Munster minor title in that era either, from 1984 until 2013. They just got their act together 10 years earlier than us, at the start of the teens instead of the start of the twenties.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19872 - 29/05/2026 19:41:54
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Replying To StoreysTash: "Wexford, Waterford, Kilkenny and Tipp should set up their own Summer championship for the next month or so. Use it as an opportunity to blood players, round robin, top two into final.....................the south east league." yea sure we just wont start the club championships
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 1008 - 30/05/2026 08:44:20
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Replying To Doylerwex: "Nobody in Leinster is particularly impressive. We hurled Dublin for about 8 minutes and lost by 5. That's a gap I believe we can close relatively easily." Dublin have consistently performed at a higher level than us for a few years now. Beat KK comfortably in an effective Leinster semi final the last day, that same KK team annihilated us. Went to Salthill and beat Galway, knocked out Limerick last year. There's no gap we can close relatively easily. The fear is we slip even further if the likes of Chin, Liam Ryan, Rory O'Connor don't commit next year.
Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 585 - 30/05/2026 10:46:07
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Replying To Timbertony: "Dublin have consistently performed at a higher level than us for a few years now. Beat KK comfortably in an effective Leinster semi final the last day, that same KK team annihilated us. Went to Salthill and beat Galway, knocked out Limerick last year. There's no gap we can close relatively easily. The fear is we slip even further if the likes of Chin, Liam Ryan, Rory O'Connor don't commit next year." You're right. Dublin have been solid but why? They're extremely fit and very well coached. Would you consider that insurmountable? I wouldn't.
Kilkenny destroyed us in the second half this year. Again, why? Were they excellent or were we awful? We came out wide open in the second half. Again, easily corrected.
Even with the same management team and players we'd improve next year by default because our younger players will have another year s and c and experience at that level.
The reality is we'll have a new management team (which always brings a bounce anyway) and hopefully more of our players playing and a better plan.
If you really review this season, we were poor in the league bar the game in Croke park and about ten minutes in Ennis.
We were ok against Kildare in the championship, terrible against Kilkenny, particularly in the second half. Poor against Dublin bar the last 8 minutes or so and we Lost that game by 5 points (the largest margin between the teams in a decade) very good in the first half against Offaly before we lost our whole defence but still should have won the game. Very good against Galway in the first half before running out of gas while the scoreline flattered them.
It's been a really bad season, but I've seen enough to know we can improve a lot in a relatively short space of time.
Look at Offaly. They lost nearly all they're games for 18 months and are suddenly third in Leinster. The reason is they're better coached than we are and have more discipline.
Dublin have had a really good season so far, but they've been building this for 5 years. We've only just started.
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Replying To Doylerwex: "You're right. Dublin have been solid but why? They're extremely fit and very well coached. Would you consider that insurmountable? I wouldn't.
Kilkenny destroyed us in the second half this year. Again, why? Were they excellent or were we awful? We came out wide open in the second half. Again, easily corrected.
Even with the same management team and players we'd improve next year by default because our younger players will have another year s and c and experience at that level.
The reality is we'll have a new management team (which always brings a bounce anyway) and hopefully more of our players playing and a better plan.
If you really review this season, we were poor in the league bar the game in Croke park and about ten minutes in Ennis.
We were ok against Kildare in the championship, terrible against Kilkenny, particularly in the second half. Poor against Dublin bar the last 8 minutes or so and we Lost that game by 5 points (the largest margin between the teams in a decade) very good in the first half against Offaly before we lost our whole defence but still should have won the game. Very good against Galway in the first half before running out of gas while the scoreline flattered them.
It's been a really bad season, but I've seen enough to know we can improve a lot in a relatively short space of time.
Look at Offaly. They lost nearly all they're games for 18 months and are suddenly third in Leinster. The reason is they're better coached than we are and have more discipline.
Dublin have had a really good season so far, but they've been building this for 5 years. We've only just started." That Dublin team is very settled, Purcell and Ó Riain their only two new starters this year and it's not as if they're relying on them heavily, Brian Hayes is nearly the least experienced starter they have after them, he'd nearly be considered fairly experienced by us given some of the teams we have put out this year
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1343 - 30/05/2026 11:55:30
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My father was saying that each club was asked to send a few players for development squad trials and whatever way it worked out, some lad from the Martin's turned up for trials even though the Martin's didn't have him on the list
Turns out that out of the 140-odd (I think) players who went for trials, he ended up making the final 48
Obviously has a lot of belief in himself even if others don't and must love Wexford hurling, we could do with more like him tbh
You'd wonder whether we're better off asking clubs to not even nominate players and to instead let whoever is interested go, probably wouldn't make much of a difference either way as the ones who most want to go are likeliest to be the best ones but still, looks more open and transparent that way
Also feeds back to some of the ASH proposals on here, I understand it could clash with soccer and rugby and that it might be a bit too much for some but it's not just for development squad players, it should be for whoever wants to improve their skills, the ones who'd be most likely to take part are the most enthusiastic ones, you'd imagine there'd be enough enthusiastic young lads about that you could expand the size and scope of ASH and be able to fill out the number of place even when other sports are on
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1343 - 30/05/2026 12:06:38
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My father was also saying that Micheál Martin was on about some competition that was run in Glynn recently, might have been U10s, said that the KK teams ran away with it
He also said in response to someone saying we needed to drive the game through our primary schools that yes, we do need to do that but that's not going to happen without the clubs buying in
Think he said there are 112 schools in the county and only really 10 take hurling very seriously?
Am guessing he means schools associated with the following clubs: Oulart, Rathnure, Shels, Martin's, Anne's, Kilmore, Ferns, and Ballyhogue, maybe Oylegate are in there too?
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1343 - 30/05/2026 12:10:33
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