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Replying To bloodandbandage: "That's some reaching - even for you. Instead of questioning how a smaller and lighter team beat your big, physical team, you're making the point that 'if' you had beaten Offaly, you would have given us a better game..." And if you read up the thread you will see that we beat Cork in a challenge game that year too so we are technically All Ireland U20 Champions 2023.
Well done to team and management
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Left out Bobby Murray who was also on that FCJ side
Would be interesting to see a breakdown of this year's Senior, U20, and Minor teams by secondary school
For the Minors, I think you'd have….
Good Counsel: Joey Tobin, Robbie Kehoe, Seán Doyle, Jack Furlong, and Jack Cullen
Enniscorthy CBS: Jamie Downey, am guessing Alfie Sludds-Murphy, Seán Kavanagh, and Matt Butler too
FCJ Bunclody: Ryan Walsh, Paddy O'Neill, Cathal Whelan, Bobby Murray
Wexford CBS: Eoghan Kehoe
Gorey CS: Cormac Doyle, Enda Byrne
Caulfield, Kennedy, and Durack Peter's or Wexford CBS
Then for the U20s….
Good Counsel: O'Brien, Quigley, Tom Dempsey, and Shannon
Peter's: Corey Ryan, Furlong
Wexford CBS: Ciarán Doyle, Darragh Ryan, and Colin Carley
Gorey CS: Doran Daly O'Toole
Creagh: Charlie Roark
Enniscorthy CBS: Jack Nolan, Donohoe, Oisín Moore, and Podge Doyle
Ryan Doran probably Carnew although maybe Gorey, don't know about Mooney" Sean Kavanagh is actually in De La Salle in Waterford as I believe his dad is a teacher there.
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Goreylad1985 where are all the Gorey players, none on minor or U20 and 1 on senior?
This is the 3rd time I asked you. I'm sure a "Gorey lad" will have an explanation?
StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 2080 - 28/05/2026 12:30:22
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Replying To bloodandbandage: "That's some reaching - even for you. Instead of questioning how a smaller and lighter team beat your big, physical team, you're making the point that 'if' you had beaten Offaly, you would have given us a better game..." It is. We debated plenty on this forum at the time as to why we didnt beat Offaly that day. Best look back and catch up if its that interesting to you!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19872 - 28/05/2026 12:39:12
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Replying To tearintom: "The combined schools is happening for hurling and football next year.
My understanding is for hurling Enniscorthy CBS, Peter's and Good Counsel won't be part of the combined team.
For football its only good counsel opting out." Thats the provisional idea, but nothing concrete has been agreed yet. FCJ for example might be hurling Senior A next year too.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19872 - 28/05/2026 12:40:37
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Replying To Goreylad1985: "And if you read up the thread you will see that we beat Cork in a challenge game that year too so we are technically All Ireland U20 Champions 2023.
Well done to team and management" I don't see what you're trying to achieve here
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1343 - 28/05/2026 13:09:47
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Replying To tearintom: "Sean Kavanagh is actually in De La Salle in Waterford as I believe his dad is a teacher there." Interesting one
Has anyone from Ballyhogue played senior hurling for Wexford since Phil Wilson?
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1343 - 28/05/2026 13:10:56
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Was just thinking about a few of our younger players and think they've been affected by what the Americans would call a "sophomore slump"
Pretty much any young player in a senior squad will have been on an upward curve ever since they started hurling without that many major setbacks on the field (Of course, some do have to deal with major injuries at a young age)
1. They're probably one of the best players on their club team from a young age
2. They're then probably good enough to get into a develop squad
3. They're probably then good enough to be on of the better players on a development squad
4. They're probably good enough to be one of the best players on their school team
5. They're then probably good enough to make a Minor panel
6. They're then probably good enough to start on a Minor team
7. They're then probably good enough to make an U20 panel
8. They're then probably good enough to make an U20 team
9. They're then probably good enough to make a Senior panel
10. They're then good enough to make a Senior team
A lot of young players for any Senior team across the country would have fulfilled a lot of those steps so their youth is by and large a case of always taking a step forward and never really taking a step back
Then you go through what we've experienced in the last two years and these players are handed challenges they've never had to go through before e.g. loss of form
Tbh, a lot of players fail when hit with setbacks like this, they're just not mentally ready for it
However, not all players fail and some bounce back, thought Shane O'Donnell for example had a bit of a lull after his exploits in 2013 but after a few years, he had bounced back and was better than ever before
I suppose that's where we'll either sink or swim in the next few years, a lot of it will be down to whether these young players let this adversity make or break them
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1343 - 28/05/2026 13:20:05
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Replying To Doylerwex: "Why are you on this forum?
If we get everyone playing and are set up better tactically we could win Leinster.
Offaly went from Joe Mac to third in Leinster in two seasons with one under 20 team that wasn't really any better than ours." How do you remotely think Wexford could win Leinster??
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Just to back things up here a bit, to all the talk that followed Galway beating us in the U20 semi-final and how they "rested" Aaron Niland for that match.
I see they're "resting" him for the All-Ireland Final too. They must not be taking Clare too seriously either. :)
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3716 - 28/05/2026 13:58:05
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Replying To countyman2022: "How do you remotely think Wexford could win Leinster??" Because none of the other counties are overly impressive this year, and likely wont be much better next year. If we had all our best players and a management team that set up the lads well, and got them fit at the start of the year, we could beat them.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19872 - 28/05/2026 15:23:19
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Replying To Pikeman96: "Just to back things up here a bit, to all the talk that followed Galway beating us in the U20 semi-final and how they "rested" Aaron Niland for that match.
I see they're "resting" him for the All-Ireland Final too. They must not be taking Clare too seriously either. :)" He got injured against Dublin in the round Robin and didn't feature in the u20 leinster final or against wexford last Sunday.
Big difference between resting someone and being unable to play him because of injury!!
richiepmurphy (Kilkenny) - Posts: 98 - 28/05/2026 15:36:06
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Was just thinking about a few of our younger players and think they've been affected by what the Americans would call a "sophomore slump"
Pretty much any young player in a senior squad will have been on an upward curve ever since they started hurling without that many major setbacks on the field (Of course, some do have to deal with major injuries at a young age)
1. They're probably one of the best players on their club team from a young age
2. They're then probably good enough to get into a develop squad
3. They're probably then good enough to be on of the better players on a development squad
4. They're probably good enough to be one of the best players on their school team
5. They're then probably good enough to make a Minor panel
6. They're then probably good enough to start on a Minor team
7. They're then probably good enough to make an U20 panel
8. They're then probably good enough to make an U20 team
9. They're then probably good enough to make a Senior panel
10. They're then good enough to make a Senior team
A lot of young players for any Senior team across the country would have fulfilled a lot of those steps so their youth is by and large a case of always taking a step forward and never really taking a step back
Then you go through what we've experienced in the last two years and these players are handed challenges they've never had to go through before e.g. loss of form
Tbh, a lot of players fail when hit with setbacks like this, they're just not mentally ready for it
However, not all players fail and some bounce back, thought Shane O'Donnell for example had a bit of a lull after his exploits in 2013 but after a few years, he had bounced back and was better than ever before
I suppose that's where we'll either sink or swim in the next few years, a lot of it will be down to whether these young players let this adversity make or break them" A slight variation on what you said. All the same from numbers 1 to 9, but then when you get to number 10 - they then have to work hard to make the senior team.
That sort of player will have been good enough all the way up to be guaranteed a start on a club or school or even a county Minor or U20 team all right. They may well even already be used to bad results, depending on who they were playing for. But then when they're called into the senior county squad, it's the first time they're not assured of a starting place.
Might not make the matchday 26. If they do, might not get a run. When they do get a run, all eyes are on "the new lad" to see how he performs and whether or not he's up to it. And they maybe feel a pressure that they've never felt before, because there aren't as many second chances when the stakes are higher at inter-county level.
That's a new challenge to them as well, and one that some don't deal with as well as others do.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3716 - 28/05/2026 15:43:14
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Replying To Doylerwex: "Why are you on this forum?
If we get everyone playing and are set up better tactically we could win Leinster.
Offaly went from Joe Mac to third in Leinster in two seasons with one under 20 team that wasn't really any better than ours." Thats a mad thing to say about a Tier 1 hurling county...
Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 494 - 28/05/2026 16:01:43
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Replying To Pikeman96: "Just to back things up here a bit, to all the talk that followed Galway beating us in the U20 semi-final and how they "rested" Aaron Niland for that match.
I see they're "resting" him for the All-Ireland Final too. They must not be taking Clare too seriously either. :)" Im not sure what you are trying to achieve with this??
Surely the come back will be that all of wexford are resting now?
Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 494 - 28/05/2026 16:06:14
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Replying To Tadhg2020: "Im not sure what you are trying to achieve with this??
Surely the come back will be that all of wexford are resting now?" You may read back the thread to get what he means Tadhg2020
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19872 - 28/05/2026 16:15:36
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Replying To richiepmurphy: "He got injured against Dublin in the round Robin and didn't feature in the u20 leinster final or against wexford last Sunday.
Big difference between resting someone and being unable to play him because of injury!!" He was carrying that injury before the Dublin game
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19872 - 28/05/2026 16:16:34
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Replying To countyman2022: "How do you remotely think Wexford could win Leinster??" Nobody in Leinster is particularly impressive. We hurled Dublin for about 8 minutes and lost by 5. That's a gap I believe we can close relatively easily.
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4544 - 28/05/2026 21:02:14
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Replying To Tadhg2020: "Thats a mad thing to say about a Tier 1 hurling county..." How do you mean? It's objective reality. Offaly were in the lower championship in 24. They got promoted, then won one game to stay up bit got promoted in the league. This year they lost all their league games but got results when it mattered and are in an all Ireland quarter final. Fair play to them. I'm just using them as a example of what can happen when you're prepared and your attitude is right. We can do the same thing.
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4544 - 28/05/2026 21:09:08
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Wexford, Waterford, Kilkenny and Tipp should set up their own Summer championship for the next month or so. Use it as an opportunity to blood players, round robin, top two into final.....................the south east league.
StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 2080 - 29/05/2026 10:04:46
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