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Replying To Tadhg2020:  "Haven't Banagher and KK won the B? And the seasons that they haven't had a team in A they have won the combined schools section most afaik."
Banagher won Leinster B in 2024. Kilcormac inspired by Screeney in 2023.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19872 - 27/05/2026 16:24:08    2676091

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Because they had hardly any teams in Senior A, if they had a combined schools team good enough to win Senior A one year and then lose by 4 to Kieran's the next, they should then have a school good enough to win Senior B

I'm not sure coming out of the Combined Schools section counts for much, might only have to play two games to get out of it and you're up against Meath Schools, Westmeath Schools (Without Coláiste Mhuire), Dublin North (Without St Fintan's), and Dublin South (Without Coláiste Eoin), they lost this year to a decent Coláiste Mhuire side which is fairly bad going when you think about it, one Westmeath school beating the whole of Offaly"
In fairness Marys Mullingar are an exceptionally good GAA school. All their hurling teams compete in Leinster A. They reached the Corn ui Dhuill semifinal this year, and have won the last 2 Brother Boscos.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19872 - 27/05/2026 16:30:18    2676093

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Replying To Afinestick96:  "Think of the under 20s Carley and O Brien are good enough to start come league and championship. Cork and Galway are not afraid to throw under 20s in and if Carley and O Brien they should play. O Brien in particular looks physically ready to compete at that level while Carley is a brilliant ball winner something we really lack with the seniors. They would need to be managed though and still be allowed to play with the 20s like Barry Walsh and Jason Rabbitte and a few others have been"
No way of knowing if Carley and O'Brien would be good enough for Senior. Stop heaping pressure on them!!!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19872 - 27/05/2026 16:33:27    2676095

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Replying To Tadhg2020:  "A bit of hurling snobbery there. Colaiste Mhuire were a very good side this year and this year is the only year that they were in A. Every other year WM had a full compliment.
To sum up so, based on what you and viking have said in response, your facilities are as good as or better than offalys( which i said originally), your schools are doing better, you have all the ancillary services in place and sponsors/money required too, the best young talent is making itself available and fully committing, am I summing it up accurately ?
So what has gone wrong so if everything that's needed to succeed elsewhere is in place in Wexford? Why are you so poor?"
I don't get the snobbery bit, I said Coláiste Mhuire were a decent side and they're in A in hurling all the way up, Westmeath had a good Minor side this year too

But Westmeath is not a particularly big county and it's a football county before it's a hurling county, a combined Offaly schools team isn't that far removed from the previous year's Offaly Minor team in theory so it doesn't say for much for them if they're losing to an individual schools outside of Kieran's, Kilkenny CBS, or Good Counsel

You're creating strawman arguments here and putting words in my mouth that I never said

Saying Offaly schools haven't been that great is not the same thing as saying everything is good with Wexford hurling

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1343 - 27/05/2026 16:33:47    2676096

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Replying To Afinestick96:  "Think of the under 20s Carley and O Brien are good enough to start come league and championship. Cork and Galway are not afraid to throw under 20s in and if Carley and O Brien they should play. O Brien in particular looks physically ready to compete at that level while Carley is a brilliant ball winner something we really lack with the seniors. They would need to be managed though and still be allowed to play with the 20s like Barry Walsh and Jason Rabbitte and a few others have been"
Yeah, I like Carley, he reminds me a bit of Bonner Maher (My father said he reminded him of John Power for Kilkenny back in the day), need to get him to keep working on his hurling, improving his speed, and laying the ball off more and he can be effective at Senior level

I'm wary with throwing O'Brien straight in even though he's better than a lot of what we have right now

Jack Nolan another, very good ball-striker, started getting to grips with the wing-forward position as the U20 championship went on, has good size to him although not as much of a ball-winner as Carley, need to develop that in him, I know Hegarty was a wing-back for Limerick at U21 level so hopefully we are able to convert Nolan into a good wing-forward at Senior level, he has the ability to score big with his ball-striking and shooting from out around the 65 is something we've lacked for a while now

Think Ciarán Doyle could be a starter next year hopefully, very athletic type and think he's just over 6'0, his S&C work looks to be very good

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1343 - 27/05/2026 16:42:04    2676098

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Replying To Viking66:  "Forgot about Tullamore being in 2nd year A this year. Fair play to them, with stronger Football clubs around them generally."
Would say the population around Birr is probably declining whereas the population around Tullamore is increasing, that's one reason behind the power shift

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1343 - 27/05/2026 16:44:37    2676100

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Replying To Tadhg2020:  "A bit of hurling snobbery there. Colaiste Mhuire were a very good side this year and this year is the only year that they were in A. Every other year WM had a full compliment.
To sum up so, based on what you and viking have said in response, your facilities are as good as or better than offalys( which i said originally), your schools are doing better, you have all the ancillary services in place and sponsors/money required too, the best young talent is making itself available and fully committing, am I summing it up accurately ?
So what has gone wrong so if everything that's needed to succeed elsewhere is in place in Wexford? Why are you so poor?"
At Senior? There are loads of reasons given for that if you read back the thread!!!!!
At u20 we pushed Galway alot closer than KK did in a knockout game. Drew in normal time. It will be interesting to see how Clare do. Of course it was only in challenge games but we played 4 Munster counties 5 times and only lost once, one of the 2 times we played Cork. We won the other 4 games. In terms of your comparison between us and Offaly Offaly beat Laois by a point this year, while we beat Laois by 21 points.
At minor we beat Kilkenny, but lost badly to Galway. We shouldve beaten Cork, but threw it away. In terms of your comparison of us to Offaly, we didnt play them this year, but we did beat Laois last year in the QF, and they beat Offaly by 31 points in the prelim QF. In 2024 we knocked out Offaly beating them by 10 points. In 2023 we beat them by 11 points at minor.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19872 - 27/05/2026 16:47:46    2676102

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Replying To Viking66:  "Banagher won Leinster B in 2024. Kilcormac inspired by Screeney in 2023."
And Enniscorthy CBS won Leinster Senior B in 2025

FCJ Bunclody won Leinster Junior B in 2025 as well (Had Paddy O'Neill, Ryan Walsh, and Cathal Whelan playing for them), could have 4 Wexford sides in Senior A next year, think Combined Colleges is coming back too

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1343 - 27/05/2026 16:50:59    2676104

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "And Enniscorthy CBS won Leinster Senior B in 2025

FCJ Bunclody won Leinster Junior B in 2025 as well (Had Paddy O'Neill, Ryan Walsh, and Cathal Whelan playing for them), could have 4 Wexford sides in Senior A next year, think Combined Colleges is coming back too"
Yes thats already been discussed with the schools. Its gaining traction......

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19872 - 27/05/2026 17:13:32    2676117

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "And Enniscorthy CBS won Leinster Senior B in 2025

FCJ Bunclody won Leinster Junior B in 2025 as well (Had Paddy O'Neill, Ryan Walsh, and Cathal Whelan playing for them), could have 4 Wexford sides in Senior A next year, think Combined Colleges is coming back too"
Left out Bobby Murray who was also on that FCJ side

Would be interesting to see a breakdown of this year's Senior, U20, and Minor teams by secondary school

For the Minors, I think you'd have….

Good Counsel: Joey Tobin, Robbie Kehoe, Seán Doyle, Jack Furlong, and Jack Cullen

Enniscorthy CBS: Jamie Downey, am guessing Alfie Sludds-Murphy, Seán Kavanagh, and Matt Butler too

FCJ Bunclody: Ryan Walsh, Paddy O'Neill, Cathal Whelan, Bobby Murray

Wexford CBS: Eoghan Kehoe

Gorey CS: Cormac Doyle, Enda Byrne

Caulfield, Kennedy, and Durack Peter's or Wexford CBS


Then for the U20s….

Good Counsel: O'Brien, Quigley, Tom Dempsey, and Shannon

Peter's: Corey Ryan, Furlong

Wexford CBS: Ciarán Doyle, Darragh Ryan, and Colin Carley

Gorey CS: Doran Daly O'Toole

Creagh: Charlie Roark

Enniscorthy CBS: Jack Nolan, Donohoe, Oisín Moore, and Podge Doyle

Ryan Doran probably Carnew although maybe Gorey, don't know about Mooney

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1343 - 27/05/2026 18:29:39    2676134

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Replying To Viking66:  "At Senior? There are loads of reasons given for that if you read back the thread!!!!!
At u20 we pushed Galway alot closer than KK did in a knockout game. Drew in normal time. It will be interesting to see how Clare do. Of course it was only in challenge games but we played 4 Munster counties 5 times and only lost once, one of the 2 times we played Cork. We won the other 4 games. In terms of your comparison between us and Offaly Offaly beat Laois by a point this year, while we beat Laois by 21 points.
At minor we beat Kilkenny, but lost badly to Galway. We shouldve beaten Cork, but threw it away. In terms of your comparison of us to Offaly, we didnt play them this year, but we did beat Laois last year in the QF, and they beat Offaly by 31 points in the prelim QF. In 2024 we knocked out Offaly beating them by 10 points. In 2023 we beat them by 11 points at minor."
Was thinking recently about just how rare it is for us to beat KK to at Minor or U20 level in the last 20 years

Off the top of my head, we beat them at Minor in 2013, 2019, 2024, and 2026 and we beat them at U20 in 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2023 (2026 the only time we drew with them, I think)

And as we've spoken about before, the only time we beat Galway in that timeframe at either Minor or U20 was in 2014 in the U21 AISF (U20 Leinster SF the only time this year we didn't lose to them after the regulation 60 minutes were up)

Were able to get to Leinster underage finals back in the day without having to play either Kilkenny or Dublin, impossible to get there now without playing one of Kilkenny, Dublin, and Galway, need to get over our Galway hoodoo at that level if we're looking to make (And win) Leinster titles at Minor and U20 level

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1343 - 27/05/2026 18:36:14    2676136

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Replying To Viking66:  "Barry O'Connor and Joe Barrett didnt afaik. AJ Redmond and Jack Cullen did but left again. Neither even played a League game.
From our club Ian Carty was a Championship starter when he left. Stephen O'Gorman started 2 years at u21 and never got called until Keith took over. He had already bought his ticket for Oz. Depending how he goes at club Cathal Doyle would be worth a look in a trial also.
From other clubs Eoin Ryan from the Annes. The 2 Foleys from Crossabeg. From Clongeen Id have a good look at Michael Dundon. Mikie Dwyer, and Eoin Whelan from Fethard would be worth a look in a proper Senior game also. Gary and Eoin Molloy from Gorey if they would come in for a look. Mac too if his head was in the right place would be brilliant addition. Conor Mahoney from Barntown. Darren Byrne and Mossy Murphy from Blackwater. Flood from Cloughbawn. Jason Byrne from Craanford. Conn Mernagh from the Martins if he makes their Senior team this year.
Apart from Murphy and Doyle and maybe Flood all the above are over 6 foot I think. No doubt there are others Ive not remembered.
Anybody any other ideas of lads to try out who didnt finish out the season on the panel?"
Kyle scallan and Luke Murphy were there pre Walsh cup.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4544 - 27/05/2026 18:39:20    2676138

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Replying To Viking66:  "I think we wouldve done better against Cork than Offaly did in that final. We were physically much stronger than Offaly that year. Offaly had a load of u18s and u19s that year, and they largely werent even big for their age. Cork just bullied them out of it."
Even though Offaly were so young and so small they still beat us!! Says it all

Goreylad1985 (Wexford) - Posts: 51 - 27/05/2026 19:24:12    2676147

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Replying To Yellow:  "Solutions:

We still have very good hurlers who played well this year. Eg Conor Hearne

First thing I would do is get a new manager. No offence to KR but it will be diffficult for lads to buy in after 3 years and 4 championship defeats this summer.

I would go for Declan Ruth

I would pursue and demand a two year commitment from those on the brink of retirement and try bring the prodigal sons into the fold and fully make a two year commitment:

Liam Ryan
Chin
2 Recks
Simon Donohue

Paudie Foley
Oisin Foley
Barry O Connor
Rory O Connor
Eoin Ryan
Joe Barrett
AJ Redmond
Cian Molloy
Jack Cullen

I would promote the 5 best of the U20s such as O Brien and Charlie Roark to freshen things up.

Then I would work like dogs to restore pride in the jersey and get back on top in Leinster which is very achievable"
Can't see too many fellas committing to 2 year contracts because the 2nd year will be spent playing Joe McDonagh!!!

Goreylad1985 (Wexford) - Posts: 51 - 27/05/2026 19:28:58    2676150

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Replying To Goreylad1985:  "Even though Offaly were so young and so small they still beat us!! Says it all"
We had an extra man too, you forgot to mention that one ;-)

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19872 - 27/05/2026 22:05:03    2676172

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Left out Bobby Murray who was also on that FCJ side

Would be interesting to see a breakdown of this year's Senior, U20, and Minor teams by secondary school

For the Minors, I think you'd have….

Good Counsel: Joey Tobin, Robbie Kehoe, Seán Doyle, Jack Furlong, and Jack Cullen

Enniscorthy CBS: Jamie Downey, am guessing Alfie Sludds-Murphy, Seán Kavanagh, and Matt Butler too

FCJ Bunclody: Ryan Walsh, Paddy O'Neill, Cathal Whelan, Bobby Murray

Wexford CBS: Eoghan Kehoe

Gorey CS: Cormac Doyle, Enda Byrne

Caulfield, Kennedy, and Durack Peter's or Wexford CBS


Then for the U20s….

Good Counsel: O'Brien, Quigley, Tom Dempsey, and Shannon

Peter's: Corey Ryan, Furlong

Wexford CBS: Ciarán Doyle, Darragh Ryan, and Colin Carley

Gorey CS: Doran Daly O'Toole

Creagh: Charlie Roark

Enniscorthy CBS: Jack Nolan, Donohoe, Oisín Moore, and Podge Doyle

Ryan Doran probably Carnew although maybe Gorey, don't know about Mooney"
Joshua Roche is at Peters too I think. Sean Hyland is at Mary's.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19872 - 27/05/2026 22:14:07    2676174

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Replying To Goreylad1985:  "Can't see too many fellas committing to 2 year contracts because the 2nd year will be spent playing Joe McDonagh!!!"
If we had all those lads we wouldn't be getting relegated.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19872 - 27/05/2026 22:15:19    2676175

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Replying To Goreylad1985:  "Can't see too many fellas committing to 2 year contracts because the 2nd year will be spent playing Joe McDonagh!!!"
Why are you on this forum?

If we get everyone playing and are set up better tactically we could win Leinster.

Offaly went from Joe Mac to third in Leinster in two seasons with one under 20 team that wasn't really any better than ours.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4544 - 27/05/2026 22:37:35    2676185

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Replying To Viking66:  "Yes thats already been discussed with the schools. Its gaining traction......"
The combined schools is happening for hurling and football next year.

My understanding is for hurling Enniscorthy CBS, Peter's and Good Counsel won't be part of the combined team.

For football its only good counsel opting out.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1666 - 28/05/2026 08:12:22    2676206

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Replying To Viking66:  "I think we wouldve done better against Cork than Offaly did in that final. We were physically much stronger than Offaly that year. Offaly had a load of u18s and u19s that year, and they largely werent even big for their age. Cork just bullied them out of it."
That's some reaching - even for you. Instead of questioning how a smaller and lighter team beat your big, physical team, you're making the point that 'if' you had beaten Offaly, you would have given us a better game...

bloodandbandage (Cork) - Posts: 566 - 28/05/2026 08:26:11    2676207

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