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Replying To Viking66: "They will if we play that way again" The reality is we have so many inexperienced players making their way into senior, nothing can fix that only time. Its worth noting as well that although solid none of them young lads were unbelievable u20 or minors.
1st half our tactic was largely ling ball into Chin and he really didn't get to grips with any of the lads marking him. Worrying from Lee.
We also have so many lads that just wont commit but will next year apparently.
We are literally one result off Joe McDonagh and if we lose anymore experienced players next year I wouldn't be surprised if we went down.
Very worrying
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Positives- 1-Some lads really tried hard, and wanted to win badly. 2- we didnt seem to pick up long term injuries 3- the subs added zip, energy, workrate. The 2 Byenes and Rowley. Cillian Byrne especially. 4- we surely can't play that badly again. 5- we surely wont score that little again. 6- Jacko, Shane and Jippo got decent minutes ahead of the Dublin game. 7- the new McDonald's in New Ross is ok
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19373 - 25/04/2026 22:13:11
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Replying To WEXILE: "The reality is we have so many inexperienced players making their way into senior, nothing can fix that only time. Its worth noting as well that although solid none of them young lads were unbelievable u20 or minors.
1st half our tactic was largely ling ball into Chin and he really didn't get to grips with any of the lads marking him. Worrying from Lee.
We also have so many lads that just wont commit but will next year apparently.
We are literally one result off Joe McDonagh and if we lose anymore experienced players next year I wouldn't be surprised if we went down.
Very worrying" Have the H2H on Kildare so as things stand, assuming we were to lose every game left, Kildare would have to take a point off Dublin, Galway, and Kilkenny and then beat Offaly to finish ahead of us
I don't know how you're defining exceptional Minor/U20 but Cian Molloy, Cian Byrne, and Simon Roche couldn't have been that far off that level
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Replying To Viking66: "Positives- 1-Some lads really tried hard, and wanted to win badly. 2- we didnt seem to pick up long term injuries 3- the subs added zip, energy, workrate. The 2 Byenes and Rowley. Cillian Byrne especially. 4- we surely can't play that badly again. 5- we surely wont score that little again. 6- Jacko, Shane and Jippo got decent minutes ahead of the Dublin game. 7- the new McDonald's in New Ross is ok" 8. The game is over
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Replying To Viking66: "Positives- 1-Some lads really tried hard, and wanted to win badly. 2- we didnt seem to pick up long term injuries 3- the subs added zip, energy, workrate. The 2 Byenes and Rowley. Cillian Byrne especially. 4- we surely can't play that badly again. 5- we surely wont score that little again. 6- Jacko, Shane and Jippo got decent minutes ahead of the Dublin game. 7- the new McDonald's in New Ross is ok" Tj Bella's was nice- even if it was a detour for it.
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Just watched the game. The reality is Kilkenny wanted it way more and our forwards just did not work hard enough to stop the ball coming out. If you haven't got work rate you have no place on the pitch. My father said that lazy work rate was there last weekend in Kildare too. But they were limited hurlers. And more worrying, our experienced players were all our best players but they are all nearing the end. We need the u20s and minors to come through now and to put hands up. The only positive I can point to is Killian Byrne and hopefully Rory, Cian Molloy, Cian Byrne, etc will be back next year. And hopefully Sean O'Brien will be coming through. Some of the younger players learned harsh lessons tonight but I got my harshest lesson off an experienced Rory Jacob when I first played senior hurling. They will learn from it. I'm not sure if Rossi is the man to rebuild or if its time for JJ Doyle to get the job. Rossi, Wexford true and true but he was very slow to try freshen up the forwards today. Well done to the minors, green shoots abound. Lots of talented hurlers on that team.
StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 2007 - 26/04/2026 06:43:34
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Replying To foreveryoung: "It doesn't really matter, does it?
Wexford hasn't been able to consistently beat Kilkenny since the 1950's! Yes, there was a purple patch in the mid70's! But late wins like 2004 and round-robin games when KK has already qualified don't cut any mustard.
Wexford had a chance to cutthroat their greatest rival today. Instead what happened! They lid on their yellow bellies.
I don't even know if Richie Reid hurled today or not. It's totally irrelevant.
From now on here, please try to concern yourself with the more important aspects of the Wexford game!
It is not good how low Wexford is, and all your if this and if that, and we did that, and trashing out statistics about beating KK in games that DIDN'T MATTER helps no one, and actually only serves to paper over the obvious cracks that are there in Wexford hurling!" But we beat Cork in a minor game 3 years ago!!!!!!
Goreylad1985 (Wexford) - Posts: 37 - 26/04/2026 08:10:48
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Replying To foreveryoung: "It doesn't really matter, does it?
Wexford hasn't been able to consistently beat Kilkenny since the 1950's! Yes, there was a purple patch in the mid70's! But late wins like 2004 and round-robin games when KK has already qualified don't cut any mustard.
Wexford had a chance to cutthroat their greatest rival today. Instead what happened! They lid on their yellow bellies.
I don't even know if Richie Reid hurled today or not. It's totally irrelevant.
From now on here, please try to concern yourself with the more important aspects of the Wexford game!
It is not good how low Wexford is, and all your if this and if that, and we did that, and trashing out statistics about beating KK in games that DIDN'T MATTER helps no one, and actually only serves to paper over the obvious cracks that are there in Wexford hurling!" Firstly we beat them in 17, 19 and 22 in knockout games so saying the games didn't matter isn't accurate.
Regardless, most of us knew at the beginning of this year that we'd struggle to finish top 3 in Leinster with where this young group is at.
I wanted to avoid any analysis because I'm still a bit down, but we all got a bit excited with how bad Kilkenny were last week and the fact that we seemed to be improving game by game.
Anyway, it's a 5 game league. I'm going to try calm down a bit and see what happens.
We might not be world beaters, but I refuse to believe that second half is our actual level.
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Replying To Viking66: "Positives- 1-Some lads really tried hard, and wanted to win badly. 2- we didnt seem to pick up long term injuries 3- the subs added zip, energy, workrate. The 2 Byenes and Rowley. Cillian Byrne especially. 4- we surely can't play that badly again. 5- we surely wont score that little again. 6- Jacko, Shane and Jippo got decent minutes ahead of the Dublin game. 7- the new McDonald's in New Ross is ok" Sorry to be so negative but I thought McDonald's in Ross was pretty poor. Maybe I was just in awful form :)
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The wheels really came off the wagon last night. We were completely outfoxed by a rampant Kilkenny. I thought we would put it up to them even though we all knew they would be smarting after the drubbing in Salthill. Our defence couldn't get to grips with the slick cats attack and they roasted us at every opportunity. We quite simply failed miserably to compete. Jippo and Jacko were very rusty to but it mildly but both will improve for the next game against the Dubs in the park. Our replacements done well when introduced and I can see Cillian Byrne and Sean Rowley starting next day. Changes will have to be made as it will be an uphill battle to get a third place in Leinster. The only good thing is that we have two home games against Dublin and Galway. Surely we can play better than we did yesterday. If not I'm afraid the immediate future will be very bleak indeed. Let's hope that we will learn from this humiliating debacle and show the hurling world that we may be down but not out.
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So much for going up to Kilkenny with heads up and chests out on a mission to bury them.
The reality was actually the complete and utter polar opposite. Everywhere, from the sideline and on to the pitch
Its hard to know where to start really.
I was having a "debate" in the car going home where the comment was "at least it wasn't as bad as 2015" and I was very much in the "against" camp.
It was worse for me, sure not on the scoreline but by virtue of the opposition. This is nkt a vintage Kilkenny side, its really not, 2015 was as good as its got for them, this KK team won't win the all ireland
Its an average KK team and we made them look like the superstars of a decade ago. Thyere genuinely outside top 5 in the country and we are way way way off them, the fact is the margin of defeat flattered us.
My only thing is I dont think we are that bad, I dont but at the minute the team keeps providing evidence to prove otherwise.
Just for the next day, can we not please waste Lee in at full forward when no ball is going in there, at this stage there's a case for him at midfiled. And secondly can we please please please stop giving ghe opposition the short puckout, its hasn't worked, its not working, its nkt going to work!!
The reality is again our season could be effectively over in 2 weeks time, once again early May, its a huge game and at the moment we dont look prepared or even up for it.
Its a big two weeks, I hate losing to Dublin more than any other team, even KK but that reality is staring us in the face, playvlike yesterday and they will run riot.
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Watched match back last night. Dear god we so bad at marking and tracking the runners. Free men all over the place. Overlap on the right hand side in the second half on every play.
Based on league and 2 games so far I see few positives bar young lads getting experience.
We won't get near Dublin or Galway and I'd be very worried about Offaly too based on what we've seen this year.
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Replying To Doylerwex: "Firstly we beat them in 17, 19 and 22 in knockout games so saying the games didn't matter isn't accurate.
Regardless, most of us knew at the beginning of this year that we'd struggle to finish top 3 in Leinster with where this young group is at.
I wanted to avoid any analysis because I'm still a bit down, but we all got a bit excited with how bad Kilkenny were last week and the fact that we seemed to be improving game by game.
Anyway, it's a 5 game league. I'm going to try calm down a bit and see what happens.
We might not be world beaters, but I refuse to believe that second half is our actual level." Yeah, don't know exactly how good we are at our best but we're better than what we showed yesterday, was just a lifeless performance from the get-go, zero intensity
Raise the intensity levels and we'll improve but intensity should be a non-negotiable and yet it's been an issue for us ever since Davy left, that's a concern
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1132 - 26/04/2026 10:52:23
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Replying To tearintom: "So much for going up to Kilkenny with heads up and chests out on a mission to bury them.
The reality was actually the complete and utter polar opposite. Everywhere, from the sideline and on to the pitch
Its hard to know where to start really.
I was having a "debate" in the car going home where the comment was "at least it wasn't as bad as 2015" and I was very much in the "against" camp.
It was worse for me, sure not on the scoreline but by virtue of the opposition. This is nkt a vintage Kilkenny side, its really not, 2015 was as good as its got for them, this KK team won't win the all ireland
Its an average KK team and we made them look like the superstars of a decade ago. Thyere genuinely outside top 5 in the country and we are way way way off them, the fact is the margin of defeat flattered us.
My only thing is I dont think we are that bad, I dont but at the minute the team keeps providing evidence to prove otherwise.
Just for the next day, can we not please waste Lee in at full forward when no ball is going in there, at this stage there's a case for him at midfiled. And secondly can we please please please stop giving ghe opposition the short puckout, its hasn't worked, its not working, its nkt going to work!!
The reality is again our season could be effectively over in 2 weeks time, once again early May, its a huge game and at the moment we dont look prepared or even up for it.
Its a big two weeks, I hate losing to Dublin more than any other team, even KK but that reality is staring us in the face, playvlike yesterday and they will run riot." Yeah, I would rather Chin out the field, playing him inside is too clever by half, means that we struggle to win primary possession in the half-forward-line
On the short puck-out, I think sitting off the short puck-out can be a good strategy but you need to engage them before they hit the 45, we did not do that at all last night, that was a bigger problem
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Replying To countyman2022: "Tj Bella's was nice- even if it was a detour for it." TJ Bellas is good too, went there with the kids after Martins beat Ballyhale!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19373 - 26/04/2026 11:29:02
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Have the H2H on Kildare so as things stand, assuming we were to lose every game left, Kildare would have to take a point off Dublin, Galway, and Kilkenny and then beat Offaly to finish ahead of us
I don't know how you're defining exceptional Minor/U20 but Cian Molloy, Cian Byrne, and Simon Roche couldn't have been that far off that level" Cillian Byrne and Sean Rowley started in a Leinster u20 final as u18s too. Both were huge losses in their last year at u20.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19373 - 26/04/2026 11:31:14
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Yeah, I would rather Chin out the field, playing him inside is too clever by half, means that we struggle to win primary possession in the half-forward-line
On the short puck-out, I think sitting off the short puck-out can be a good strategy but you need to engage them before they hit the 45, we did not do that at all last night, that was a bigger problem" We played man on man at the back, gave them a free man in Corcoran to double up on Chin, conceded the short puckouts all game to a keeper who is nearly as bad as Mark is at them, and still didnt win any turnovers because effectively we were playing with a 2 man half forward line when we didnt have the ball. We picked a few lads in the middle who didn't mark anything except space. Marking in general was very poor. Not sure if they were told to play zonal, but hurling is a game you can't play that way. There's plenty of easy things for management to change to get a better performance against Dublin. Tactically especially developing attacking play but also defending from the front back, team set up as in where to play the 15 lads on the pitch, personnel changes, positional changes for some lads playing out of position, and maybe most importantly motivation. It's up to them to make those changes.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19373 - 26/04/2026 11:39:54
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Replying To tearintom: "So much for going up to Kilkenny with heads up and chests out on a mission to bury them.
The reality was actually the complete and utter polar opposite. Everywhere, from the sideline and on to the pitch
Its hard to know where to start really.
I was having a "debate" in the car going home where the comment was "at least it wasn't as bad as 2015" and I was very much in the "against" camp.
It was worse for me, sure not on the scoreline but by virtue of the opposition. This is nkt a vintage Kilkenny side, its really not, 2015 was as good as its got for them, this KK team won't win the all ireland
Its an average KK team and we made them look like the superstars of a decade ago. Thyere genuinely outside top 5 in the country and we are way way way off them, the fact is the margin of defeat flattered us.
My only thing is I dont think we are that bad, I dont but at the minute the team keeps providing evidence to prove otherwise.
Just for the next day, can we not please waste Lee in at full forward when no ball is going in there, at this stage there's a case for him at midfiled. And secondly can we please please please stop giving ghe opposition the short puckout, its hasn't worked, its not working, its nkt going to work!!
The reality is again our season could be effectively over in 2 weeks time, once again early May, its a huge game and at the moment we dont look prepared or even up for it.
Its a big two weeks, I hate losing to Dublin more than any other team, even KK but that reality is staring us in the face, playvlike yesterday and they will run riot." There was plenty ball being pucked into Lee but he got no support from the half forward line. He was being double and triple marked. Redmond got nearly no ball played into him. Most of what was played in was long ball from the back, our 21 to our 45, which is generally backs ball all day. When we did work it out to good delivery areas we stayed running with it, we didnt deliver it inside, and got turned over repeatedly as there was no space there.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19373 - 26/04/2026 11:44:13
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Replying To Doylerwex: "Sorry to be so negative but I thought McDonald's in Ross was pretty poor. Maybe I was just in awful form :)" Its very small and the food took ages, but that was ok compared to our performance up in Nowlan Park.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19373 - 26/04/2026 11:45:56
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Replying To foreveryoung: "It doesn't really matter, does it?
Wexford hasn't been able to consistently beat Kilkenny since the 1950's! Yes, there was a purple patch in the mid70's! But late wins like 2004 and round-robin games when KK has already qualified don't cut any mustard.
Wexford had a chance to cutthroat their greatest rival today. Instead what happened! They lid on their yellow bellies.
I don't even know if Richie Reid hurled today or not. It's totally irrelevant.
From now on here, please try to concern yourself with the more important aspects of the Wexford game!
It is not good how low Wexford is, and all your if this and if that, and we did that, and trashing out statistics about beating KK in games that DIDN'T MATTER helps no one, and actually only serves to paper over the obvious cracks that are there in Wexford hurling!" What a load of nonsense Mr Young :-D
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