Replying To tirawleybaron: "Why was the 2 point rule needed? Because all players were being discouraged from attempting (and learning) a fundamental skill of the game. Does anyone remember Derry being afraid to shoot at all, when one point behind in one match a few years ago.
Donegals "low block" defence (and their copy cats) have been sitting inside 40m from goal, forcing long range kicks (at 50% accuracy) or waiting to smother a forward trying to get inside, for 14 years.
We all have had enough of watching that tripe.
Donegal sat in again in the final and were punished by a team who had more skills than they did (long range shooting). They sat in for so long, they let Kerry kick a two pointer after the buzzer in the first half and let Paudie Clifford have 76 possessions (mostly unopposed). They were 7 points down and let Kerrys half forwards have the freedom of Croke Park. If your U8's refused to go out and tackle like that, you'd go off the head.
At times, the Kerry lads were dropping balls and messing up solo's and no one came out of the low block to pressure them.
What are people doing complaining about Kerry taking their time to execute a score while Donegal sat in afraid to come out and tackle them. The slow build up play in yesterdays game is on McGuiness tactics, not the two point rule. Why should Kerry be forced into the low block, they should be rewarded for being skillfull enough to shoot over it. No one else was able to do it all year.
Saying that, I was all for the 4 point rule for a goal. Pity it never got tried out - would love to see it in the provincial club championship. I don't think we should be wedded to the 40m arc though. It could be more of an half oval shape. 35m at the endline and 45m infront of the posts.
I think the bringing a technical infringement back out should be to the 45m as a minimum and there needs to be a 60s time limit so we dont have to wait all day for a goal keeper to step up.
In the NBA, the moved the 3 pint arc back, but the players just got better. the new obsession with 3 pointers means you can win without long range shooters.
In the GAA we didn't need long range shooters for the past 10 years. Now we do. Get busy practicing on the training field. The two Clifford are probably out there this evening."
I'm not suggesting getting rid of it entirely.
Its just not worth DOUBLE a normal point.
Basketball is 50% more for three pointer. 100% is too much. Also 66% of a goal.
Replying To Green_Gold: "I think we need a few years with the new rules and then make a decision. Overall the new rules have improved the game. Would it be sensible to get rid of 2 points for a free outside the arc?
The only downside of the new rules that I can see is that you might get a lot more one sided games."
Be sensible just to get rid of all two pointers. Without them yesterday it was a one score game before Joe O'Connor hits the net, not a one sided game then with the match in the balance keeping all watching interested until the final few moments. The amount of people looking down at their phones yesterday in Croke Park was not a good sign for the so called improved game under these new rules.
Replying To Drax_the_destroyer: "Be sensible just to get rid of all two pointers. Without them yesterday it was a one score game before Joe O'Connor hits the net, not a one sided game then with the match in the balance keeping all watching interested until the final few moments. The amount of people looking down at their phones yesterday in Croke Park was not a good sign for the so called improved game under these new rules."
It wouldn't have been a one score game yesterday if there were no two pointers. Both teams would have adapted their tactics for one pointers if there were no two pointers. It was a one sided game because Kerry were the better hungrier team. If they played under 2024 rules on yesterday's form they would still have won.