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Replying To Viking66: "First up, great post, must've took a bit of time, although you left out Taghmon! Secondly, is it better to finish 4th in div 1 and not make any final, or get to a div 4 final? From a development point of view? Thirdly as regards New Ross District, demographically speaking we are the area suffering most from depopulation. And I include the town in that, relative to Gorey, Wexford and Enniscorthy. I'm not sure that's an issue that can be solved by Wexford GAA. All we can do is try our hardest to increase per capita participation in our games, and I know all the clubs in the District are trying that way." My apologies I knew I would forget at least one. Taghmon-Camaross - U14 Div 4 Cup Final v Adamstown U12 5A Final v OLI/St Fintans I know what you mean regarding finishing fourth in div 1 than compared to final in div 4. Only point I would make would be if you are eliminated from the competition then most kids would finish up hurling until the next season starts unless you're involved in a winter hurling league or something similar. The further in the competition you go the more games you obviously play,the more training you do and so the more practice you will be doing. The more contact hours you get with a player The better in the long term. Now again it's not beneficial for a team to be in div one and get hockeyed every game and similar to not winning by cricket scores in a lower div. If you can get a fine balance and playing competitive games based on what your team level is the better and hopefully they will improve further up the grades. The leagues are seeded based on how the team was at a previous age group so if they won div 2 at u14 then promoted when that group gets to u16 so most teams find their level after 14 anyway. Obviously hard to change population demographics. Ross wouldn't have the same draw as say Gorey in terms of its proximity to Dublin where alot of people are working. But @Viking66 would you find investment in facilities, coaches would be lacking compared to other districts? How many all Weather or indoor facilities are in the new Ross district?Not trying to start a civil war in Wexford or anything but always struck me how New Ross would generally have less participation in the top grades of underage and senior through the years and never understood why camánouttathat (Wexford) - Posts: 94 - 06/10/2025 14:07:13 2638677 Link
Replying To ElGranSenor: "Have GOH ever amalgamated with another club at underage level?" They are currently amalgamated with Cloughbawn at u16 and minor. Have been for the last few years now. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17186 - 06/10/2025 14:08:46 2638680 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Shels and Gorey are still playing in higher divisions than most clubs though. Usually division 1, occasionally division 2. Oulart should have a good adult team in a few years, if lads keep at the hurling, stay local, and keep improving. Monageer and Davidstown going ok, but mainly in lower divisions than 1 or 2." And personally I think it is better to compete (if possible) in the higher grades than play in lower divisions with ability to walk to winning a final. If both Shels and Gorey can keep 1-2 players coming through every year their adult teams will continue to be very competitive. MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 242 - 06/10/2025 14:13:34 2638682 Link
Replying To Viking66: "First up, great post, must've took a bit of time, although you left out Taghmon! Secondly, is it better to finish 4th in div 1 and not make any final, or get to a div 4 final? From a development point of view? Thirdly as regards New Ross District, demographically speaking we are the area suffering most from depopulation. And I include the town in that, relative to Gorey, Wexford and Enniscorthy. I'm not sure that's an issue that can be solved by Wexford GAA. All we can do is try our hardest to increase per capita participation in our games, and I know all the clubs in the District are trying that way." Yep was going to comment the same. It's a bit flawed, I know one club here getting kudos for example for winning an underage title way down the divisions whilst another club had 2 teams at the same grade both operating at a higher level, one lost a Premier semi final and the other lost the final but get no credit in this analysis. I know which situation I'd prefer to be in. But yeah unfortunately Ross as a district is suffering, both codes and is a concern. As for Rathnure I take it more of and indicat8on they're finally getting their act together again. And lastly it's great to see a host of other clubs really pushing on underage, Monageer a prime example, Oilgate, Cushinstown, Ballyhougue because it sends out the message that if these clubs can do it anyone can imho. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1575 - 06/10/2025 14:35:34 2638686 Link
Replying To ElGranSenor: "Have GOH ever amalgamated with another club at underage level?" They currently do with Cloughbawn at U16 / Minor level - RossBawn MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 242 - 06/10/2025 14:47:16 2638691 Link
Replying To ElGranSenor: "Have GOH ever amalgamated with another club at underage level?" Yes, they're with Cloughbawn even now, as Rosbán Gaels. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3153 - 06/10/2025 15:26:48 2638695 Link
@camánoutathat - just on your question about facilities in the New Ross district - Can't answer off the top of my head about clubs with all-weather outdoor facilities (i.e. hurling walls with astroturf, and the like), but on indoor arenas, and using the list of venues for the ASH Under-12 hurling thing as a guide: Enniscorthy District - Duffry Rovers, Bunclody Wexford District - Blackwater, Kilmore Gorey District - Craanford, Castletown, Buffers Alley New Ross District - Rathnure, Horeswood, Bannow-Ballymitty. So, a fairly even spread in that regard. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3153 - 06/10/2025 16:18:00 2638704 Link
Replying To camánouttathat: "My apologies I knew I would forget at least one. Taghmon-Camaross - U14 Div 4 Cup Final v Adamstown U12 5A Final v OLI/St Fintans I know what you mean regarding finishing fourth in div 1 than compared to final in div 4. Only point I would make would be if you are eliminated from the competition then most kids would finish up hurling until the next season starts unless you're involved in a winter hurling league or something similar. The further in the competition you go the more games you obviously play,the more training you do and so the more practice you will be doing. The more contact hours you get with a player The better in the long term. Now again it's not beneficial for a team to be in div one and get hockeyed every game and similar to not winning by cricket scores in a lower div. If you can get a fine balance and playing competitive games based on what your team level is the better and hopefully they will improve further up the grades. The leagues are seeded based on how the team was at a previous age group so if they won div 2 at u14 then promoted when that group gets to u16 so most teams find their level after 14 anyway. Obviously hard to change population demographics. Ross wouldn't have the same draw as say Gorey in terms of its proximity to Dublin where alot of people are working. But @Viking66 would you find investment in facilities, coaches would be lacking compared to other districts? How many all Weather or indoor facilities are in the new Ross district?Not trying to start a civil war in Wexford or anything but always struck me how New Ross would generally have less participation in the top grades of underage and senior through the years and never understood why" Good point about extending the season, we have kept the lads going once a week at u8, u10, u12 and u14 last winter except for a few weeks off at Xmas, following on from the previous winter when we did the u12s and u14s. We organised an u13 tournament, the Jim Morrissey Cup, on our Astro at the end of February/beginning of March also. This will be an annual tournament now. The last 2 years we encouraged all of our u12s to participate in the ASH program also. It absolutely did keep most of the lads pucking a ball at home over the winter. I also get what you are saying about development, getting hockeyed in higher divisions won't encourage participation, while hockeying others at too low a level won't improve standards. It's a fine balance. New Ross District has 2 of the larger indoor facilities in the county, Bannow and Horeswood. Geraldine's have one of the finest club grounds in the county. The majority of the Ross District clubs have good enough lights to play championship hurling at night, while in Taghmon we also have a decent stand, indoor sports hall, 2 Astros, double sided ball wall, 2 near enough flat pitches etc. All the result of many good members hard work from the 1950s til present. We just don't have many people per square mile! Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17186 - 06/10/2025 16:27:16 2638706 Link
How are ye calling the various semi finals and relegation finals? How have Oylgate slipped so far this year. Would have thought they should be stronger than likes of Glynn and Oulart. Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 453 - 06/10/2025 16:53:58 2638708 Link
Replying To Timbertony: "How are ye calling the various semi finals and relegation finals? How have Oylgate slipped so far this year. Would have thought they should be stronger than likes of Glynn and Oulart." Well they've got more points and won more games than both of them in the group stage for all the good in done them! tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1575 - 06/10/2025 17:48:35 2638720 Link
Replying To Timbertony: "How are ye calling the various semi finals and relegation finals? How have Oylgate slipped so far this year. Would have thought they should be stronger than likes of Glynn and Oulart." I fully expect Crossabeg/Ballymurn to be relegated from senior. They've been very weak every time I've seen them this year. I'd join many others in predicting it'll most likely be St. Martin's v Rathnure in the final, but I do think both Ferns and Naomh Éanna are still very capable of winning. In Intermediate, I'd predict Fethard v Cloughbawn in the final, and Gusserane to go down. In Intermediate 'A', I'm predicting Monageer-Boolavogue v Duffry Rovers. Very opposite ends of group form - Monageer have sailed through so far while Duffry were weak in opening stages, but are coming good at the right time, and I think they'll see off Clongeen. Haven't seen enough of the lower grades to make any valid predictions at all. And my predictions for those top three grades might turn out not to very valid either! Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3153 - 06/10/2025 17:53:09 2638722 Link
Replying To camánouttathat: "My apologies I knew I would forget at least one. Taghmon-Camaross - U14 Div 4 Cup Final v Adamstown U12 5A Final v OLI/St Fintans I know what you mean regarding finishing fourth in div 1 than compared to final in div 4. Only point I would make would be if you are eliminated from the competition then most kids would finish up hurling until the next season starts unless you're involved in a winter hurling league or something similar. The further in the competition you go the more games you obviously play,the more training you do and so the more practice you will be doing. The more contact hours you get with a player The better in the long term. Now again it's not beneficial for a team to be in div one and get hockeyed every game and similar to not winning by cricket scores in a lower div. If you can get a fine balance and playing competitive games based on what your team level is the better and hopefully they will improve further up the grades. The leagues are seeded based on how the team was at a previous age group so if they won div 2 at u14 then promoted when that group gets to u16 so most teams find their level after 14 anyway. Obviously hard to change population demographics. Ross wouldn't have the same draw as say Gorey in terms of its proximity to Dublin where alot of people are working. But @Viking66 would you find investment in facilities, coaches would be lacking compared to other districts? How many all Weather or indoor facilities are in the new Ross district?Not trying to start a civil war in Wexford or anything but always struck me how New Ross would generally have less participation in the top grades of underage and senior through the years and never understood why" Just on the population in Ross District it's younger families in particular that are growing less in number, as well as smaller in terms of number of children. I think from memory Clongeen NS only has 90 children and is the only school in the parish. Fethard NS only has 140 odd enrolled, and again is the only school in the parish. We have 2 schools, combined enrolment of about 220, although a large number of these children would have more interest in horses than GAA. To put that into context Ferns has 3 schools I think, possibly 4, and Ferns NS has over 300 pupils by itself. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17186 - 06/10/2025 17:53:28 2638723 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "@camánoutathat - just on your question about facilities in the New Ross district - Can't answer off the top of my head about clubs with all-weather outdoor facilities (i.e. hurling walls with astroturf, and the like), but on indoor arenas, and using the list of venues for the ASH Under-12 hurling thing as a guide: Enniscorthy District - Duffry Rovers, Bunclody Wexford District - Blackwater, Kilmore Gorey District - Craanford, Castletown, Buffers Alley New Ross District - Rathnure, Horeswood, Bannow-Ballymitty. So, a fairly even spread in that regard." Rathnure are Enniscorthy District, although geographically they ought to be New Ross District. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17186 - 06/10/2025 17:54:51 2638724 Link
Replying To Timbertony: "How are ye calling the various semi finals and relegation finals? How have Oylgate slipped so far this year. Would have thought they should be stronger than likes of Glynn and Oulart." Oylegate won the same number of group games as Gorey and Ferns who were in the same group as Oylegate, and who are now in Senior SFs. Oylegate actually beat Gorey in their group game. Not sure they have slipped so far on that basis. Fine margins. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17186 - 06/10/2025 17:59:33 2638727 Link
Replying To Viking66: " Replying To Pikeman96: "<b>@camánoutathat</b> - just on your question about facilities in the New Ross district - Can't answer off the top of my head about clubs with all-weather outdoor facilities (i.e. hurling walls with astroturf, and the like), but on indoor arenas, and using the list of venues for the ASH Under-12 hurling thing as a guide: Enniscorthy District - Duffry Rovers, Bunclody Wexford District - Blackwater, Kilmore Gorey District - Craanford, Castletown, Buffers Alley New Ross District - Rathnure, Horeswood, Bannow-Ballymitty. So, a fairly even spread in that regard."</div>Rathnure are Enniscorthy District, although geographically they ought to be New Ross District." Apologies. I knew that, of course, but don't know what I thinking when I compiled that list earlier. Maybe a good job I didn't go about compiling a long list like camánoutathat did! Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3153 - 06/10/2025 22:52:52 2638763 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Yes, they're with Cloughbawn even now, as Rosbán Gaels." They were with clonard as well at one point for a year think there was a falling out there then went and joined cloughbawn. Re facilities in the Ross district cushinstown have a hurling wall with Astroturf Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 374 - 07/10/2025 09:32:53 2638784 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Just on the population in Ross District it's younger families in particular that are growing less in number, as well as smaller in terms of number of children. I think from memory Clongeen NS only has 90 children and is the only school in the parish. Fethard NS only has 140 odd enrolled, and again is the only school in the parish. We have 2 schools, combined enrolment of about 220, although a large number of these children would have more interest in horses than GAA. To put that into context Ferns has 3 schools I think, possibly 4, and Ferns NS has over 300 pupils by itself." Would you say that there may be the cases of amalgamation with a lot of teams in Ross district in next few years similar to Tara Rocks/Killanerin? I've never seen a 3 team amalgamation before JFC Gaels and Cluain Banu Mogues which would be alarming for numbers. Below is a layout of teams from Clongeen, Fethard St Mogues, St James, Bannow Ballymitty and Gussarane O Rahilly's. They would have to have a lot of player retention in the next couple of years to keep adult teams going. Clongeen - Intermediate A, Junior B Fethard St Mogues - Intermediate, Junior B St James - Intermediate, Junior B Bannow Ballymitty- Junior A hurling Gussarane O' Rahilly's - Intermediate U21 St Mogues Fethard ( Gave walkover in 2nd round v Davidstown-Courtnacuddy played first round v Rathgarogue-Cushinstown ) Bannow Ballymitty Gusserane-O`Rahilly's ( Gave walkover in Championship v Liam Mellows) St James ( lost first round v Askamore. Gave walkover in 2nd round v Adamstown) Clongeen did not have a team U18 St James B.B O'Rahillys - Bannow Ballymitty, Gusserane-O`Rahilly's Mogueen Gaels- Clongeen, Fethard U16 St James Gusserane-O`Rahilly's Cluain Banu Mogues- Clongeen,Bannow,Fethard U14 Bannow Ballymitty Gusserane-O`Rahilly's JFC gaels- St James, Fethard, Clongeen U12 St James Bannow Ballymitty Gusserane-O`Rahilly's Mogueen Gaels- Clongeen, Fethard U10 St James Gussarane O' Rahilly's Bannow Ballymitty Moguegeen Gaels - Clongeen, Fethard camánouttathat (Wexford) - Posts: 94 - 07/10/2025 10:16:04 2638792 Link
Listening to the semi final podcast . I turned it off half way through . Might go back and listen to rest if I get chance in work. Managers using the breaks for fleadh , ep (a joke ) as one said . We all differ on our opinion but surely its the same for every team .and not having total access to players as football taking their valued time for prep away. In last 2 years one of these teams has lost 1/4 finals by record margins surely something more than football or Ep is wrong within that club . They had beaten the team that beat them sunday in relegation final 2 year previous , whilst having the largest playing pool underage collectively for last 10 to 15 years and still can't get 25 players on a senior squad to at least compete in 1/4 final . Been premier minor champions and finalists over last 5 years ,but very few making the breakthrough why where's the players pathway going wrong . and in I ve heard about the amount of players travelling etc but every team has suffered in that regard and will continue to do so but would nt have the numbers to replenish the squad . I think they need to look harder at themselves than any outside factor . On their prep the 2 teams in question have the players 70% of the time with several of their squads playing hurling only . The other team has been consistently competive over the last 4 to 5 years and will be again next year too but would nt have the same underage numbers although still good numbers . Got caught on the day by another dual club. Who would also be consistently competitive and would test if not beat all teams left on ny given day . To be fair that manager did nt really blame the outside factors as such more timing and coming up against a team hitting firm at a good time . Excuses are easy to find but u have to look a lot deeper in one case anyway . Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 466 - 07/10/2025 10:30:44 2638795 Link
Replying To camánouttathat: "Would you say that there may be the cases of amalgamation with a lot of teams in Ross district in next few years similar to Tara Rocks/Killanerin? I've never seen a 3 team amalgamation before JFC Gaels and Cluain Banu Mogues which would be alarming for numbers. Below is a layout of teams from Clongeen, Fethard St Mogues, St James, Bannow Ballymitty and Gussarane O Rahilly's. They would have to have a lot of player retention in the next couple of years to keep adult teams going. Clongeen - Intermediate A, Junior B Fethard St Mogues - Intermediate, Junior B St James - Intermediate, Junior B Bannow Ballymitty- Junior A hurling Gussarane O' Rahilly's - Intermediate U21 St Mogues Fethard ( Gave walkover in 2nd round v Davidstown-Courtnacuddy played first round v Rathgarogue-Cushinstown ) Bannow Ballymitty Gusserane-O`Rahilly's ( Gave walkover in Championship v Liam Mellows) St James ( lost first round v Askamore. Gave walkover in 2nd round v Adamstown) Clongeen did not have a team U18 St James B.B O'Rahillys - Bannow Ballymitty, Gusserane-O`Rahilly's Mogueen Gaels- Clongeen, Fethard U16 St James Gusserane-O`Rahilly's Cluain Banu Mogues- Clongeen,Bannow,Fethard U14 Bannow Ballymitty Gusserane-O`Rahilly's JFC gaels- St James, Fethard, Clongeen U12 St James Bannow Ballymitty Gusserane-O`Rahilly's Mogueen Gaels- Clongeen, Fethard U10 St James Gussarane O' Rahilly's Bannow Ballymitty Moguegeen Gaels - Clongeen, Fethard" Clongeen and Fethard might have to merge long-term if that's the way things are going ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 662 - 07/10/2025 13:10:32 2638825 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Just on the population in Ross District it's younger families in particular that are growing less in number, as well as smaller in terms of number of children. I think from memory Clongeen NS only has 90 children and is the only school in the parish. Fethard NS only has 140 odd enrolled, and again is the only school in the parish. We have 2 schools, combined enrolment of about 220, although a large number of these children would have more interest in horses than GAA. To put that into context Ferns has 3 schools I think, possibly 4, and Ferns NS has over 300 pupils by itself." Looking at those numbers there's going to have to be amalgamations of smaller clubs. Not temporary ones underage but permanently. Whole different debate as to why the state aren't investing in social/affordable housing and other infra in these villages/rural communities. But realistically likes of Ferns are going to continue to increase population wise while Fethard will decline. For arguments sake, how far off would a Fethard/James combo from winning a senior club? With likes of Hanlon back and a few others. Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 453 - 07/10/2025 13:22:06 2638828 Link