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Replying To Pikeman96: "I agree. No disrespect whatsoever to the three clubs involved, but I couldn't give a hoot (or worse!) if we never get a top-class county hurler from them again, so long as we get them from somewhere.
And despite Rathnure going on to win that U12 Div. 1 last night against Blackwater, I've noted in particular how clubs like Ballyhogue and Blackwater have been doing good things at U12 in recent years. Hopefully that will continue as those players move up the ages, and some other current "not top hurling clubs" might do the same.
If we end up watching Wexford win stuff in 2040 with a team backboned by players from places like Ballyhogue & Blackwater, I really won't give a hoot (or worse!) if we don't have a strong Rathnure/Oulart/Alley. I'll say fair play to those other clubs for producing the players instead, and I'll enjoy it no matter where the players come from." Look at history of when Wexford were doing well and winning leinster or all-irelands titles.. the team was backboned by these 3 Clubs .. I'm not saying you have to have 15 players, but I am saying that these clubs have the tradition and history. - they are hurling clubs that set the standard for the rest of the county ..
I agree it is absolutely great that Blackwater / Ballyhogue and a host of other clubs are doing really well at underage and are putting in huge effort. But I honestly don't think these small rural clubs can sustain to be dual clubs and progress to where they want to be with the numbers they have. I hope I am proven wrong. I think Ballyhogue are an acid test. They have a super U12 team that probably should have won the double (they won football) - In two years time they will play premier U14 but the acid test is 6 years time when they are Minors. Will they have progressed enough to be able to play Premier Minor Hurling and Football. Will Buffers Alley / Rathnure / Oulart U12 teams of 2025 play premier minor as predominately hurling clubs. I am not anti football - but my point is it comes to a stage now where small rural clubs need to decide their identity
An example from my era - Horeswood had a super dual team in the early 90s. They won U12 premier hurling and football and went on to win premier u14 football and represented Wexford in all-ireland feile hurling and football but lost U14 premier championship. However their hurling started to suffer and they were down the divisions come U16 / Minor .. They never competed in U21 hurling. This was a once in a generation team with the likes of David Shannon, Padraig Kehoe etc that dominated underage football. The ability to sustain the dual standard couldn't be maintained.
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Replying To MyOhMi: "Look at history of when Wexford were doing well and winning leinster or all-irelands titles.. the team was backboned by these 3 Clubs .. I'm not saying you have to have 15 players, but I am saying that these clubs have the tradition and history. - they are hurling clubs that set the standard for the rest of the county ..
I agree it is absolutely great that Blackwater / Ballyhogue and a host of other clubs are doing really well at underage and are putting in huge effort. But I honestly don't think these small rural clubs can sustain to be dual clubs and progress to where they want to be with the numbers they have. I hope I am proven wrong. I think Ballyhogue are an acid test. They have a super U12 team that probably should have won the double (they won football) - In two years time they will play premier U14 but the acid test is 6 years time when they are Minors. Will they have progressed enough to be able to play Premier Minor Hurling and Football. Will Buffers Alley / Rathnure / Oulart U12 teams of 2025 play premier minor as predominately hurling clubs. I am not anti football - but my point is it comes to a stage now where small rural clubs need to decide their identity
An example from my era - Horeswood had a super dual team in the early 90s. They won U12 premier hurling and football and went on to win premier u14 football and represented Wexford in all-ireland feile hurling and football but lost U14 premier championship. However their hurling started to suffer and they were down the divisions come U16 / Minor .. They never competed in U21 hurling. This was a once in a generation team with the likes of David Shannon, Padraig Kehoe etc that dominated underage football. The ability to sustain the dual standard couldn't be maintained." I get what you are saying but at the same time It's up to Buffers Alley, Oulart and Rathnure to develop/produce better hurlers than the other clubs. The reason they backboned Wexford teams years ago was that they were producing more top level players, and therefore were winning more Senior Championships. I'm not going to go down the road of debating red herrings like club favouritism etc here, or players from other parishes playing for them, as the proof was in the pudding. They were winning Senior club championships, so obviously had more/better players.
They maybe took their eye off the ball as regards underage, suffered a little from demographic issues, had groups of players that were so successful that good younger lads couldnt get on the 1st team to develop further by playing top level games, or just got passed out by generational teams in other clubs. I don't know all the answers as to why they havent produced as many intercounty players as back in the day. But what I do know is all 3 have been Intermediate at some point or other in the last 3 years. And I also know that the only people that can change that is themselves. Which they are all trying very hard to do.
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Replying To alwaysasub: "Sorry just going back to the competition structure and the relative damp squib quarters, is there anything to be said for a the current swiss format or champions league format? 12 teams together with top 8 into quarters. You could play 5 or 6 games in the group (keeping current format for 6 games for pre prelim). Bottom 4 into relegation semis to keep it interesting. Teams would have to be graded from the previous year for the fixtures to make sure teams are playing equal difficulty teams.I would think it would make the quarter finals more entertaining as you would have the best 8 teams (1 v 8, 2 v 7, 3 v 6, 4 v 5) not where when its two groups and you might be lucky and get one strong group and a weak group." Might work if you still kept 2 groups of 6 but only 1 table.
Top 4 into 1/4 final
Then 5 to 12 in preliminary 1/4 finals .
Prelims
A 5 v12 , B 6 v 11 C 7 v 10 , D 8 v 9
1/4 finals
1 v D , 2 v C, 3v B , 4 v A
Would say either 11th or 12th should be relegated regardless of progress .
If one of either 11th or 12th wins prelim and the other doesn't losers are relegated but if they both lose they play off for relegation . Again if both win prelims the team that loses in the next round is relegated . My point whichever team 11th or 12th goes out first is relegated .
Above format would mean every round is important score difference crucial . Keep seedings as are .
2 groups, 1 table . Points then score difference determine placings if 2 teams in same group still equa.head to head decides . If 3 a mini table .
This years table would read .
1 rathnure 10 +43
2 st martins 10 +42
3 st annes 7 + 17
4 shels 6 -4
5 harriers 6 -10
6 naomh eanno 5 +11
7 ferns 4 0
8 oylgate 4 -17
9 rapps 3 -3
10 g/ barn 3 -12
11 oulart 2 - 13
12 c/beg 0 - 54
Funny this years prelims woild ve looked a lot different
Harriers drop to 5th and into prlim on score difference.
Finished 2nd with -10 score difference very unusual but 5th in 12 team table . .
Would nt be all that different than current format but woul make round Robin series more interesting .
Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 466 - 02/10/2025 19:17:51
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Small bit of a history lesson coming up :)
A curious thing about Wexford hurling is that over the years, it's been full of spells of dominance by one or maybe two clubs, who have then fallen away in the years that followed. Examples:
Adamstown dominated the 1930s and early 40s, when Wexford were way off the pace at inter-county level. As Wexford came closer to a breakthrough as the 40s turned into the 50s, Adamstown were slipping away. People at the time maybe said "we need a stronger Adamstown". But then....
Along came Enniscorthy St. Aidans, who absolutely lorded it in the late 40s and all the way through the 50s. Also Rathnure, to a lesser extent. These backboned the great Wexford teams of the team - e.g. the 1956 All-Ireland team had five from Enniscorthy and five from Rathnure.
For various reasons, Enniscorthy St. Aidans began to die away in the early 60s. For most of that decade, Rathnure didn't dominate either, in the way expected. People probably said, "oh, for Wexford to stay strong, we need a strong Enniscorthy and Rathnure". But instead, we won the '68 All-Ireland with players from 11 different clubs. Just one from Enniscorthy (and he with the Shamrocks), and one from Rathnure.
Rathnure and Buffers Alley did begin to dominate in late 60s all right, and our senior hurling championship was basically usually a two-horse race all the way through to early 90s.
But liikewise, when their dominance started to come to an end, Wexford didn't fade away then either. Instead, we won the '96 All-Ireland with players from 13 different clubs. Just one from Rathnure, and one from the Alley. We didn't "need" those clubs to be strong and backboning the team, so long as we had enough good players from elsewhere.
Unfortunately no great success in the meantime to continue to illustrate the point, but even in 2019, we didn't "need" any particular club or clubs to be strong to go so close to an All-Ireland Final. The team that started against Tipperary in that year's semi-final had players from 12 different clubs.
The more I think about it, the more I think it would actually be a backward step to have just two or three clubs setting the standard for our inter-county hurlers. Surely far better to have them coming from throughout the county.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3153 - 02/10/2025 21:13:26
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Replying To Pikeman96: "Small bit of a history lesson coming up :)
A curious thing about Wexford hurling is that over the years, it's been full of spells of dominance by one or maybe two clubs, who have then fallen away in the years that followed. Examples:
Adamstown dominated the 1930s and early 40s, when Wexford were way off the pace at inter-county level. As Wexford came closer to a breakthrough as the 40s turned into the 50s, Adamstown were slipping away. People at the time maybe said "we need a stronger Adamstown". But then....
Along came Enniscorthy St. Aidans, who absolutely lorded it in the late 40s and all the way through the 50s. Also Rathnure, to a lesser extent. These backboned the great Wexford teams of the team - e.g. the 1956 All-Ireland team had five from Enniscorthy and five from Rathnure.
For various reasons, Enniscorthy St. Aidans began to die away in the early 60s. For most of that decade, Rathnure didn't dominate either, in the way expected. People probably said, "oh, for Wexford to stay strong, we need a strong Enniscorthy and Rathnure". But instead, we won the '68 All-Ireland with players from 11 different clubs. Just one from Enniscorthy (and he with the Shamrocks), and one from Rathnure.
Rathnure and Buffers Alley did begin to dominate in late 60s all right, and our senior hurling championship was basically usually a two-horse race all the way through to early 90s.
But liikewise, when their dominance started to come to an end, Wexford didn't fade away then either. Instead, we won the '96 All-Ireland with players from 13 different clubs. Just one from Rathnure, and one from the Alley. We didn't "need" those clubs to be strong and backboning the team, so long as we had enough good players from elsewhere.
Unfortunately no great success in the meantime to continue to illustrate the point, but even in 2019, we didn't "need" any particular club or clubs to be strong to go so close to an All-Ireland Final. The team that started against Tipperary in that year's semi-final had players from 12 different clubs.
The more I think about it, the more I think it would actually be a backward step to have just two or three clubs setting the standard for our inter-county hurlers. Surely far better to have them coming from throughout the county." Thats some load.
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Replying To Viking66: "I get what you are saying but at the same time It's up to Buffers Alley, Oulart and Rathnure to develop/produce better hurlers than the other clubs. The reason they backboned Wexford teams years ago was that they were producing more top level players, and therefore were winning more Senior Championships. I'm not going to go down the road of debating red herrings like club favouritism etc here, or players from other parishes playing for them, as the proof was in the pudding. They were winning Senior club championships, so obviously had more/better players.
They maybe took their eye off the ball as regards underage, suffered a little from demographic issues, had groups of players that were so successful that good younger lads couldnt get on the 1st team to develop further by playing top level games, or just got passed out by generational teams in other clubs. I don't know all the answers as to why they havent produced as many intercounty players as back in the day. But what I do know is all 3 have been Intermediate at some point or other in the last 3 years. And I also know that the only people that can change that is themselves. Which they are all trying very hard to do." Exactly - can't disagree with anything you say and all are valid points.
MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 242 - 03/10/2025 09:09:11
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Replying To Pikeman96: "Small bit of a history lesson coming up :)
A curious thing about Wexford hurling is that over the years, it's been full of spells of dominance by one or maybe two clubs, who have then fallen away in the years that followed. Examples:
Adamstown dominated the 1930s and early 40s, when Wexford were way off the pace at inter-county level. As Wexford came closer to a breakthrough as the 40s turned into the 50s, Adamstown were slipping away. People at the time maybe said "we need a stronger Adamstown". But then....
Along came Enniscorthy St. Aidans, who absolutely lorded it in the late 40s and all the way through the 50s. Also Rathnure, to a lesser extent. These backboned the great Wexford teams of the team - e.g. the 1956 All-Ireland team had five from Enniscorthy and five from Rathnure.
For various reasons, Enniscorthy St. Aidans began to die away in the early 60s. For most of that decade, Rathnure didn't dominate either, in the way expected. People probably said, "oh, for Wexford to stay strong, we need a strong Enniscorthy and Rathnure". But instead, we won the '68 All-Ireland with players from 11 different clubs. Just one from Enniscorthy (and he with the Shamrocks), and one from Rathnure.
Rathnure and Buffers Alley did begin to dominate in late 60s all right, and our senior hurling championship was basically usually a two-horse race all the way through to early 90s.
But liikewise, when their dominance started to come to an end, Wexford didn't fade away then either. Instead, we won the '96 All-Ireland with players from 13 different clubs. Just one from Rathnure, and one from the Alley. We didn't "need" those clubs to be strong and backboning the team, so long as we had enough good players from elsewhere.
Unfortunately no great success in the meantime to continue to illustrate the point, but even in 2019, we didn't "need" any particular club or clubs to be strong to go so close to an All-Ireland Final. The team that started against Tipperary in that year's semi-final had players from 12 different clubs.
The more I think about it, the more I think it would actually be a backward step to have just two or three clubs setting the standard for our inter-county hurlers. Surely far better to have them coming from throughout the county." Maybe my opinion was little mis-understood - It isn't a matter that the county teams are riddled with players from these clubs, but as the 3 most successful clubs in the county over the past 70/80 years I think it is important that they are doing well in Senior hurling in Wexford. They do set the standard - and this then reflects at a county team level.
As stated all 3 have been intermediate over the last few years. However in 70/80s Alley most definitely set a high standard that Clubs needed to reach in order to break their dominance. Rathnure managed that in 86/87 and were good enough to win back to back Leinster titles. Buffers Alley raised their game again to beat Rathnure and go on to win an All-Ireland Club title. Rathnure had wins in late 90s and won Leinster. Oulart and Rathnure had huge battles in the 00s with Oulart setting a serious standard that other clubs had to reach. For the last 10 years no club has really dominated - we've had Martins / Shels / Ferns / Gorey etc but once we get outside the county we are been blown away. It has been discussed over pages and pages that the format of our county championship is the problem. I think it's not helping - however the standard of hurling in o
Now the opposite to this is Ballygunner - If anything their dominance has seriously hampered Waterford county hurling. But I do think the problem there is that no other senior club in Waterford has come anywhere near trying to match them or reach the level they are at.
It's a wet and miserable Friday morning - and the age old question of what do we need to do for Wexford to win an all-ireland won't be solved today!
MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 242 - 03/10/2025 09:31:27
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You don't "need" any club. You need EVERY club.
You need every club working their hardest to up the standard. Not "we need Rathnure back" or Buffers Alley or Oulart or whoever.
The best clubs are always the ones working the hardest with what they have got in their field. I never believe any player can't make it from an unfashionable club, and conversely it disprportionately annoys me to hear people say "he's from Rathnure or Buffers so he must be good". In the era of development squads, a player from a junior club can get the right coaching and become a top player much easier than 30-40 years ago.
It is curious to see the discussion about boundaries above. I have come across both professionally and in GAA some people from clubs around Enniscorthy and the thing that cheeses them off most is the Rapps tapping up their promising players. The attitude is "go create your own in the town". The issues in the 90s pre-date me living in Wexford but as one person said "it was never any other way".
What Wexford need is every club, the only point I would make is that bar Naomh Eanna the town teams there is something wrong when one is relegated to junior and another 2 are being well beaten in quarter finals and have had relegation battles. I know this might contradict my first line but I do think hurling being strong in the towns benefits the county a lot through sheer strength in numbers.
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Replying To MyOhMi: "Maybe my opinion was little mis-understood - It isn't a matter that the county teams are riddled with players from these clubs, but as the 3 most successful clubs in the county over the past 70/80 years I think it is important that they are doing well in Senior hurling in Wexford. They do set the standard - and this then reflects at a county team level.
As stated all 3 have been intermediate over the last few years. However in 70/80s Alley most definitely set a high standard that Clubs needed to reach in order to break their dominance. Rathnure managed that in 86/87 and were good enough to win back to back Leinster titles. Buffers Alley raised their game again to beat Rathnure and go on to win an All-Ireland Club title. Rathnure had wins in late 90s and won Leinster. Oulart and Rathnure had huge battles in the 00s with Oulart setting a serious standard that other clubs had to reach. For the last 10 years no club has really dominated - we've had Martins / Shels / Ferns / Gorey etc but once we get outside the county we are been blown away. It has been discussed over pages and pages that the format of our county championship is the problem. I think it's not helping - however the standard of hurling in o
Now the opposite to this is Ballygunner - If anything their dominance has seriously hampered Waterford county hurling. But I do think the problem there is that no other senior club in Waterford has come anywhere near trying to match them or reach the level they are at.
It's a wet and miserable Friday morning - and the age old question of what do we need to do for Wexford to win an all-ireland won't be solved today!" You're right. We haven't been competitive in Leinster at all since oulart won it bar Martin's last year.
What we need in Wexford is a change in attitude from top to bottom.
No whining. No messing. No excuses. No politics.
Just accept what it takes to win and do it. Then hell will freeze over.......
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "You don't "need" any club. You need EVERY club.
You need every club working their hardest to up the standard. Not "we need Rathnure back" or Buffers Alley or Oulart or whoever.
The best clubs are always the ones working the hardest with what they have got in their field. I never believe any player can't make it from an unfashionable club, and conversely it disprportionately annoys me to hear people say "he's from Rathnure or Buffers so he must be good". In the era of development squads, a player from a junior club can get the right coaching and become a top player much easier than 30-40 years ago.
It is curious to see the discussion about boundaries above. I have come across both professionally and in GAA some people from clubs around Enniscorthy and the thing that cheeses them off most is the Rapps tapping up their promising players. The attitude is "go create your own in the town". The issues in the 90s pre-date me living in Wexford but as one person said "it was never any other way".
What Wexford need is every club, the only point I would make is that bar Naomh Eanna the town teams there is something wrong when one is relegated to junior and another 2 are being well beaten in quarter finals and have had relegation battles. I know this might contradict my first line but I do think hurling being strong in the towns benefits the county a lot through sheer strength in numbers." Very hard to put a finger on what's happening in Wexford town to be honest.
We're producing quality technical hurlers at every grade, but we're not seeing them convert to adult at all. Soccer, drink, college, all the rest.
Not sure how we can convince more of them to stay on. I do think there's less of a community mentality in larger urban areas.
We played ferns at under 10 a few weeks back. I thought it was remarkable how well the chaps communicated with eachother. But they're hurling, soccer, football and school together.
Our lads the same age spread across 3 soccer teams, 3 football teams and 6 different primary schools. That doesn't help.
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Replying To countyman2022: "Thats some load." Thank you for your input. :)
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3153 - 03/10/2025 10:57:15
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I do think Wexford hurling needs a strong Rathnure, Oulart, and Alley but in the same way, it also needs a strong Ballyhogue, Blackwater, Monageer etc
Someone has to win Premier each year; that doesn't mean though they are above-average or below-average compared to previous years though. I think if you were to compare our club scene to the Kilkenny club scene, the big difference is that the clubs they consider to be "bad" would be much better than the clubs we consider to be "bad"; their floor is a lot higher than our floor.
Given the likes of Blackwater and especially Ballyhogue haven't been traditionally strong hurling clubs (Not counting the likes of Phil Wilson back in the 1960s here), I would guess it's a case of them raising their standards than everybody else lowering theirs
I do think though that when you consider how little football goes on in Oulart, Rathnure, and the Alley, they really should be strong hurling clubs so if they aren't competing for top honours, it's akin to operating at 80% rather than 100% at inter-county level
Taking U12 as an example but at least Rathnure were there competing to win it; if Rathnure are operating at their traditional high level but Ballyhogue have just improved leaps and bounds, that's pretty much the best case scenario from an inter-county perspective. The problem would be if Ballyhogue were raising their standards but everyone else was lowering theirs
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "I do think Wexford hurling needs a strong Rathnure, Oulart, and Alley but in the same way, it also needs a strong Ballyhogue, Blackwater, Monageer etc
Someone has to win Premier each year; that doesn't mean though they are above-average or below-average compared to previous years though. I think if you were to compare our club scene to the Kilkenny club scene, the big difference is that the clubs they consider to be "bad" would be much better than the clubs we consider to be "bad"; their floor is a lot higher than our floor.
Given the likes of Blackwater and especially Ballyhogue haven't been traditionally strong hurling clubs (Not counting the likes of Phil Wilson back in the 1960s here), I would guess it's a case of them raising their standards than everybody else lowering theirs
I do think though that when you consider how little football goes on in Oulart, Rathnure, and the Alley, they really should be strong hurling clubs so if they aren't competing for top honours, it's akin to operating at 80% rather than 100% at inter-county level
Taking U12 as an example but at least Rathnure were there competing to win it; if Rathnure are operating at their traditional high level but Ballyhogue have just improved leaps and bounds, that's pretty much the best case scenario from an inter-county perspective. The problem would be if Ballyhogue were raising their standards but everyone else was lowering theirs" Rathnure have a stellar management team over their u12s. And a current Wexford Senior hurler and the son of another over their u14s. Fair play to all those lads for putting back into their club. No club is putting more effort into their underage than Oulart, though credit to the coaches at traditionally less successful clubs like Ballyhogue and Blackwater for the massive time and work they are putting in also.
As a county what we need is that effort put in with all the chaps at all the clubs. Good things for the county as a whole will then happen.
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Replying To Viking66: "Rathnure have a stellar management team over their u12s. And a current Wexford Senior hurler and the son of another over their u14s. Fair play to all those lads for putting back into their club. No club is putting more effort into their underage than Oulart, though credit to the coaches at traditionally less successful clubs like Ballyhogue and Blackwater for the massive time and work they are putting in also.
As a county what we need is that effort put in with all the chaps at all the clubs. Good things for the county as a whole will then happen." I don't blame lads trying make a living but how many of the traditional hurling clubs have former players senior club and county managing teams other than their own . To me if you really value your club you shoukd be putting your own club first . Be it u6 , junior b or senior .
I know it does nt always work with ur own club but there is a role for everyone especially former players in their clubs at some grade or age .
Yes some manage outside and their own club .fair play to them too .
Get the foundations right first before you get the interior designers in .
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Adamstown
U14 Division 4 Cup Final: v Taghmon-Camross
U12 3B Final: Winners
Askamore
U21 Division 2 Semi Final: in group
U16 Division 4 Cup Final: v Crossabeg-Ballymurn
U12 4A Final: Winners
Ballygarrett
U21 Division 2 Semi Final: in group
Minor Roinn 2 Shield Final: v Moguegeen Gaels
Ballyhogue
Junior A Semi Final: v Buffers Alley
Minor Roinn 2 Cup Final: v Slaney Harriers
Ballynastragh Gaels
U21 Division 1 Semi Final: in group
U16 Division 3 Shield Final: v Davidstown-Courtnacuddy
B.B. O'Rahilly's
Minor Premier Shield Final: v Rathgarogue-Cushinstown
Blackwater St Brigid's
Intermediate Relegation: v Gusserane-O'Rahilly's
U21 Division 2 Semi Final
U16 Division 1 Shield Final: v Oulart-The Ballagh
U14 Division 3 Shield Final: v St Patricks
U12 1A Finalists
Buffers Alley
Intermediate Semi Final: v Cloughbawn
Junior A Semi Final: v Ballyhogue
U21 Premier Semi Final v Oulart
U14 Division 4 Shield Final: v Duffry Rovers
U12 2A Winners
Clongeen
Intermediate A Semi Final: v Duffry Rovers
Cloughbawn
Intermediate Semi Final: v Buffers Alley
U16 Division 2 Shield Final: v Rathgarogue-Cushinstown
U14 Division 5 Shield Final: v JFC Gaels
Crossabeg-Ballymurn
Senior Relegation: v Oylegate-Glenbrien
U16 Division 4 Cup Final: v Askamore
Rathgarogue-Cushinstown
Junior B Semi Final: v Naomh Éanna
Minor Premier Shield Final: v B.B. O'Rahilly's
U16 Division 2 Shield Final: v Cloughbawn
U12 3A Winners
Davidstown-Courtnacuddy
Intermediate A Semi Final: v Monageer-Boolavogue
Minor Roinn 3 Cup Final: v St James
U21 Division 1 Semi Final
U16 Division 3 Shield Final: v Ballynastragh Gaels
U14 Division 5 Cup Final: v Marshallstown-Castledockrell
U12 5C Final: Winners
Duffry Rovers
Intermediate A Semi Final: v Clongeen
U16 Division 4 Shield Final: v St Patricks
U14 Division 4 Shield Final: v Buffers Alley
U12 3A Finalists
Faythe Harriers
Junior A Semi Final: v Fr O'Reagan's Craanford
U14 Division 2 Shield Final: v St Martins
U14 Division 6 Semi Final: v Glynn-Barntown
U12 2B Final: v Ferns St Aidans
Ferns St Aidans
Senior Semi Final: v St Martins
U16 Division 2 Cup Final: v HWH Bunclody
U12 2B Final: v Faythe Harriers
Fr O'Reagan's Craanford
Junior A Semi Final: v Faythe Harriers
U21 Division 2 Semi Final
U16 Division 5 Cup Final: v Marshallstown-Castledockrell
U14 Division 3 Cup Final: v Rathnure
U12 5A Final: v Taghmon-Camross
Geraldine O'Hanrahans
Relegated: Intermediate A
U12 5B Finalists
Glynn-Barntown
Junior Semi Final: v Marshallstown-Castledockrell
Minor Premier Cup Final: v Oulart-The Ballagh
U16 Division 1 Cup Final: with Oylegate-Glenbrien v Monageer
U14 Division 1 Final: v Oulart-The Ballagh
U14 Division 6 Semi Final: v Faythe Harriers
Gusserane O'Rahilly's
Intermediate Relegation: v Blackwater St Brigid's
U12 4A Finalists
Horeswood
Minor Roinn 4 Final: v St Anne's Rathangan
HWH Bunclody
U16 Division 2 Cup Final: v Ferns St Aidans
U12 4B Final: Winners
JFC Gaels
U14 Division 5 Shield Final: v Cloughbawn
Liam Mellows
Minor Roinn 1 Cup Final: v Rathnure St Annes
U14 Division 6 Semi Final: v St Pats
U12 4B Finalists
Marshallstown-Castledockrell
Junior Semi Final: v Glynn-Barntown
U16 Division 5 Cup Final: v Fr O'Regan's Craanford
U14 Division 5 Cup Final: v Davidstown-Courtnacuddy
U12 5C Finalists
Moguegeen Gaels
Minor Roinn 2 Shield Final: v Ballygarrett
U12 5B Final: Winners
Monageer-Boolavogue
Intermediate A Semi Final: v Davidstown-Courtnacuddy
Minor Roinn 1 Shield Final: v St Martins
U21 Division 1 Semi Final
U16 Division 1 Cup Final: v Oylegate/Glynn-Barntown
U14 Division 6 Semi Final: in group
Naomh Éanna
Senior Semi Final: v Rathnure St Annes
Junior B Semi Final: v Rathgarogue-Cushinstown
U21 Division 2 Semi Final
Oulart-The Ballagh
U21 Premier Semi Final: v Buffers Alley
Minor Premier Cup Final: v Glynn-Barntown
U16 Division 1 Shield Final: v Blackwater
U14 Division 1 Final: v Glynn-Barntown
Oylegate-Glenbrien
Senior Relegation: v Crossabeg-Ballymurn
Junior A: Relegated
U21 Division 1 Semi Final
U16 Division 1 Cup Final: with Glynn-Barntown v Monageer
Rapparees
U16 Division 3 Cup Final: v Rathnure St Annes
U14 Division 2 Cup Final: v St Anne's Rathangan
U12 2A Finalists
Rathnure / Rathnure St Annes
Senior Semi Final: v Naomh Éanna
Junior Semi Final: v St Patrick's
Junior B Semi Final: v Shelmaliers
U21 Premier Semi Final v Shelmaliers
Minor Roinn 1 Cup Final: v Liam Mellows
U16 Division 3 Cup Final: v Rapparees
U14 Division 3 Cup Final: v Fr O'Reagans Craanford
U12 1A Winners
Slaney Harriers
Minor Roinn 2 Cup Final: v Ballyhogue
Shelmaliers
Junior B Semi Final: v Rathnure
U21 Premier Semi Final v Rathnure
St Anne's Rathangan
Minor Roinn 4 Final: v Horeswood
U14 Division 2 Cup Final: v Rapparees
St Fintans
Junior: Relegated
St James
Intermediate Semi Final: v St Mogues Fethard
Minor Roinn 3 Cup Final: v Davidstown-Courtnacuddy
U12 5D Winners
St Martins
Senior Semi Final: v Ferns St Aidans
Minor Roinn 1 Shield Final: v Monageer-Boolavogue
U14 Division 2 Shield Final: v Faythe Harriers
St Mogues Fethard
Intermediate Semi Final: v St James
St Patricks
Junior Semi Final: v Rathnure
U16 Division 4 Shield Final: v Duffry Rovers
U14 Division 3 Shield Final: v Blackwater
U14 Division 6 Semi Final: v Liam Mellows
St Marys Rosslare
U12 3B Finalists
Some observations from the above list
1. Monageer, Craanford and Davidstown performed well this year and competing in finals across multiple grades and also in adult grades. Shows a lot of work put in at these clubs that will hopefully transfer to adult grades in coming years. Been a long time since Monageer was in Senior grade/ Top of Intermediate.
2. Do Rathnure prove the point of only focusing on one code? Rathnure are in a semi final or final from their three adults teams all the way down to u12. Compare that to Shels, Rapparees and Ferns St Aidans who would also have bigger numbers than Rathnure. Are they hindering their hurling development by playing 2 codes? The more games you win the more you are exposed to competitive games and obviously if you start winning more finals the more enthusiasm you will have to stick with playing hurling.
3. Geraldine O Hanrahans are in sad state of affairs. Multiple walkovers in u14,no team at u21,joined with Cloughbawn at minor, their one and only adult team relegated to Junior. For a town team this is very worrying and I know it has been pointed out here previously but I would fear for their future. A lot of teams in Ross district more so than any other have combined teams, Clongeen,Fethard St James and Gussarane and Bannow. Years previously Bannow would have joined with Clongeen and Adamstown with Cushinstown. Could be said that Ross District more football orientated and with changing populations especially in these areas, what does the future hold for these clubs and should Wexford Gaa be doing more for the Ross district as a whole for hurling.
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Replying To camánouttathat: "Adamstown
U14 Division 4 Cup Final: v Taghmon-Camross
U12 3B Final: Winners
Askamore
U21 Division 2 Semi Final: in group
U16 Division 4 Cup Final: v Crossabeg-Ballymurn
U12 4A Final: Winners
Ballygarrett
U21 Division 2 Semi Final: in group
Minor Roinn 2 Shield Final: v Moguegeen Gaels
Ballyhogue
Junior A Semi Final: v Buffers Alley
Minor Roinn 2 Cup Final: v Slaney Harriers
Ballynastragh Gaels
U21 Division 1 Semi Final: in group
U16 Division 3 Shield Final: v Davidstown-Courtnacuddy
B.B. O'Rahilly's
Minor Premier Shield Final: v Rathgarogue-Cushinstown
Blackwater St Brigid's
Intermediate Relegation: v Gusserane-O'Rahilly's
U21 Division 2 Semi Final
U16 Division 1 Shield Final: v Oulart-The Ballagh
U14 Division 3 Shield Final: v St Patricks
U12 1A Finalists
Buffers Alley
Intermediate Semi Final: v Cloughbawn
Junior A Semi Final: v Ballyhogue
U21 Premier Semi Final v Oulart
U14 Division 4 Shield Final: v Duffry Rovers
U12 2A Winners
Clongeen
Intermediate A Semi Final: v Duffry Rovers
Cloughbawn
Intermediate Semi Final: v Buffers Alley
U16 Division 2 Shield Final: v Rathgarogue-Cushinstown
U14 Division 5 Shield Final: v JFC Gaels
Crossabeg-Ballymurn
Senior Relegation: v Oylegate-Glenbrien
U16 Division 4 Cup Final: v Askamore
Rathgarogue-Cushinstown
Junior B Semi Final: v Naomh Éanna
Minor Premier Shield Final: v B.B. O'Rahilly's
U16 Division 2 Shield Final: v Cloughbawn
U12 3A Winners
Davidstown-Courtnacuddy
Intermediate A Semi Final: v Monageer-Boolavogue
Minor Roinn 3 Cup Final: v St James
U21 Division 1 Semi Final
U16 Division 3 Shield Final: v Ballynastragh Gaels
U14 Division 5 Cup Final: v Marshallstown-Castledockrell
U12 5C Final: Winners
Duffry Rovers
Intermediate A Semi Final: v Clongeen
U16 Division 4 Shield Final: v St Patricks
U14 Division 4 Shield Final: v Buffers Alley
U12 3A Finalists
Faythe Harriers
Junior A Semi Final: v Fr O'Reagan's Craanford
U14 Division 2 Shield Final: v St Martins
U14 Division 6 Semi Final: v Glynn-Barntown
U12 2B Final: v Ferns St Aidans
Ferns St Aidans
Senior Semi Final: v St Martins
U16 Division 2 Cup Final: v HWH Bunclody
U12 2B Final: v Faythe Harriers
Fr O'Reagan's Craanford
Junior A Semi Final: v Faythe Harriers
U21 Division 2 Semi Final
U16 Division 5 Cup Final: v Marshallstown-Castledockrell
U14 Division 3 Cup Final: v Rathnure
U12 5A Final: v Taghmon-Camross
Geraldine O'Hanrahans
Relegated: Intermediate A
U12 5B Finalists
Glynn-Barntown
Junior Semi Final: v Marshallstown-Castledockrell
Minor Premier Cup Final: v Oulart-The Ballagh
U16 Division 1 Cup Final: with Oylegate-Glenbrien v Monageer
U14 Division 1 Final: v Oulart-The Ballagh
U14 Division 6 Semi Final: v Faythe Harriers
Gusserane O'Rahilly's
Intermediate Relegation: v Blackwater St Brigid's
U12 4A Finalists
Horeswood
Minor Roinn 4 Final: v St Anne's Rathangan
HWH Bunclody
U16 Division 2 Cup Final: v Ferns St Aidans
U12 4B Final: Winners
JFC Gaels
U14 Division 5 Shield Final: v Cloughbawn
Liam Mellows
Minor Roinn 1 Cup Final: v Rathnure St Annes
U14 Division 6 Semi Final: v St Pats
U12 4B Finalists
Marshallstown-Castledockrell
Junior Semi Final: v Glynn-Barntown
U16 Division 5 Cup Final: v Fr O'Regan's Craanford
U14 Division 5 Cup Final: v Davidstown-Courtnacuddy
U12 5C Finalists
Moguegeen Gaels
Minor Roinn 2 Shield Final: v Ballygarrett
U12 5B Final: Winners
Monageer-Boolavogue
Intermediate A Semi Final: v Davidstown-Courtnacuddy
Minor Roinn 1 Shield Final: v St Martins
U21 Division 1 Semi Final
U16 Division 1 Cup Final: v Oylegate/Glynn-Barntown
U14 Division 6 Semi Final: in group
Naomh Éanna
Senior Semi Final: v Rathnure St Annes
Junior B Semi Final: v Rathgarogue-Cushinstown
U21 Division 2 Semi Final
Oulart-The Ballagh
U21 Premier Semi Final: v Buffers Alley
Minor Premier Cup Final: v Glynn-Barntown
U16 Division 1 Shield Final: v Blackwater
U14 Division 1 Final: v Glynn-Barntown
Oylegate-Glenbrien
Senior Relegation: v Crossabeg-Ballymurn
Junior A: Relegated
U21 Division 1 Semi Final
U16 Division 1 Cup Final: with Glynn-Barntown v Monageer
Rapparees
U16 Division 3 Cup Final: v Rathnure St Annes
U14 Division 2 Cup Final: v St Anne's Rathangan
U12 2A Finalists
Rathnure / Rathnure St Annes
Senior Semi Final: v Naomh Éanna
Junior Semi Final: v St Patrick's
Junior B Semi Final: v Shelmaliers
U21 Premier Semi Final v Shelmaliers
Minor Roinn 1 Cup Final: v Liam Mellows
U16 Division 3 Cup Final: v Rapparees
U14 Division 3 Cup Final: v Fr O'Reagans Craanford
U12 1A Winners
Slaney Harriers
Minor Roinn 2 Cup Final: v Ballyhogue
Shelmaliers
Junior B Semi Final: v Rathnure
U21 Premier Semi Final v Rathnure
St Anne's Rathangan
Minor Roinn 4 Final: v Horeswood
U14 Division 2 Cup Final: v Rapparees
St Fintans
Junior: Relegated
St James
Intermediate Semi Final: v St Mogues Fethard
Minor Roinn 3 Cup Final: v Davidstown-Courtnacuddy
U12 5D Winners
St Martins
Senior Semi Final: v Ferns St Aidans
Minor Roinn 1 Shield Final: v Monageer-Boolavogue
U14 Division 2 Shield Final: v Faythe Harriers
St Mogues Fethard
Intermediate Semi Final: v St James
St Patricks
Junior Semi Final: v Rathnure
U16 Division 4 Shield Final: v Duffry Rovers
U14 Division 3 Shield Final: v Blackwater
U14 Division 6 Semi Final: v Liam Mellows
St Marys Rosslare
U12 3B Finalists
Some observations from the above list
1. Monageer, Craanford and Davidstown performed well this year and competing in finals across multiple grades and also in adult grades. Shows a lot of work put in at these clubs that will hopefully transfer to adult grades in coming years. Been a long time since Monageer was in Senior grade/ Top of Intermediate.
2. Do Rathnure prove the point of only focusing on one code? Rathnure are in a semi final or final from their three adults teams all the way down to u12. Compare that to Shels, Rapparees and Ferns St Aidans who would also have bigger numbers than Rathnure. Are they hindering their hurling development by playing 2 codes? The more games you win the more you are exposed to competitive games and obviously if you start winning more finals the more enthusiasm you will have to stick with playing hurling.
3. Geraldine O Hanrahans are in sad state of affairs. Multiple walkovers in u14,no team at u21,joined with Cloughbawn at minor, their one and only adult team relegated to Junior. For a town team this is very worrying and I know it has been pointed out here previously but I would fear for their future. A lot of teams in Ross district more so than any other have combined teams, Clongeen,Fethard St James and Gussarane and Bannow. Years previously Bannow would have joined with Clongeen and Adamstown with Cushinstown. Could be said that Ross District more football orientated and with changing populations especially in these areas, what does the future hold for these clubs and should Wexford Gaa be doing more for the Ross district as a whole for hurling." First up, great post, must've took a bit of time, although you left out Taghmon!
Secondly, is it better to finish 4th in div 1 and not make any final, or get to a div 4 final? From a development point of view?
Thirdly as regards New Ross District, demographically speaking we are the area suffering most from depopulation. And I include the town in that, relative to Gorey, Wexford and Enniscorthy. I'm not sure that's an issue that can be solved by Wexford GAA. All we can do is try our hardest to increase per capita participation in our games, and I know all the clubs in the District are trying that way.
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Replying To camánouttathat: "Adamstown
U14 Division 4 Cup Final: v Taghmon-Camross
U12 3B Final: Winners
Askamore
U21 Division 2 Semi Final: in group
U16 Division 4 Cup Final: v Crossabeg-Ballymurn
U12 4A Final: Winners
Ballygarrett
U21 Division 2 Semi Final: in group
Minor Roinn 2 Shield Final: v Moguegeen Gaels
Ballyhogue
Junior A Semi Final: v Buffers Alley
Minor Roinn 2 Cup Final: v Slaney Harriers
Ballynastragh Gaels
U21 Division 1 Semi Final: in group
U16 Division 3 Shield Final: v Davidstown-Courtnacuddy
B.B. O'Rahilly's
Minor Premier Shield Final: v Rathgarogue-Cushinstown
Blackwater St Brigid's
Intermediate Relegation: v Gusserane-O'Rahilly's
U21 Division 2 Semi Final
U16 Division 1 Shield Final: v Oulart-The Ballagh
U14 Division 3 Shield Final: v St Patricks
U12 1A Finalists
Buffers Alley
Intermediate Semi Final: v Cloughbawn
Junior A Semi Final: v Ballyhogue
U21 Premier Semi Final v Oulart
U14 Division 4 Shield Final: v Duffry Rovers
U12 2A Winners
Clongeen
Intermediate A Semi Final: v Duffry Rovers
Cloughbawn
Intermediate Semi Final: v Buffers Alley
U16 Division 2 Shield Final: v Rathgarogue-Cushinstown
U14 Division 5 Shield Final: v JFC Gaels
Crossabeg-Ballymurn
Senior Relegation: v Oylegate-Glenbrien
U16 Division 4 Cup Final: v Askamore
Rathgarogue-Cushinstown
Junior B Semi Final: v Naomh Éanna
Minor Premier Shield Final: v B.B. O'Rahilly's
U16 Division 2 Shield Final: v Cloughbawn
U12 3A Winners
Davidstown-Courtnacuddy
Intermediate A Semi Final: v Monageer-Boolavogue
Minor Roinn 3 Cup Final: v St James
U21 Division 1 Semi Final
U16 Division 3 Shield Final: v Ballynastragh Gaels
U14 Division 5 Cup Final: v Marshallstown-Castledockrell
U12 5C Final: Winners
Duffry Rovers
Intermediate A Semi Final: v Clongeen
U16 Division 4 Shield Final: v St Patricks
U14 Division 4 Shield Final: v Buffers Alley
U12 3A Finalists
Faythe Harriers
Junior A Semi Final: v Fr O'Reagan's Craanford
U14 Division 2 Shield Final: v St Martins
U14 Division 6 Semi Final: v Glynn-Barntown
U12 2B Final: v Ferns St Aidans
Ferns St Aidans
Senior Semi Final: v St Martins
U16 Division 2 Cup Final: v HWH Bunclody
U12 2B Final: v Faythe Harriers
Fr O'Reagan's Craanford
Junior A Semi Final: v Faythe Harriers
U21 Division 2 Semi Final
U16 Division 5 Cup Final: v Marshallstown-Castledockrell
U14 Division 3 Cup Final: v Rathnure
U12 5A Final: v Taghmon-Camross
Geraldine O'Hanrahans
Relegated: Intermediate A
U12 5B Finalists
Glynn-Barntown
Junior Semi Final: v Marshallstown-Castledockrell
Minor Premier Cup Final: v Oulart-The Ballagh
U16 Division 1 Cup Final: with Oylegate-Glenbrien v Monageer
U14 Division 1 Final: v Oulart-The Ballagh
U14 Division 6 Semi Final: v Faythe Harriers
Gusserane O'Rahilly's
Intermediate Relegation: v Blackwater St Brigid's
U12 4A Finalists
Horeswood
Minor Roinn 4 Final: v St Anne's Rathangan
HWH Bunclody
U16 Division 2 Cup Final: v Ferns St Aidans
U12 4B Final: Winners
JFC Gaels
U14 Division 5 Shield Final: v Cloughbawn
Liam Mellows
Minor Roinn 1 Cup Final: v Rathnure St Annes
U14 Division 6 Semi Final: v St Pats
U12 4B Finalists
Marshallstown-Castledockrell
Junior Semi Final: v Glynn-Barntown
U16 Division 5 Cup Final: v Fr O'Regan's Craanford
U14 Division 5 Cup Final: v Davidstown-Courtnacuddy
U12 5C Finalists
Moguegeen Gaels
Minor Roinn 2 Shield Final: v Ballygarrett
U12 5B Final: Winners
Monageer-Boolavogue
Intermediate A Semi Final: v Davidstown-Courtnacuddy
Minor Roinn 1 Shield Final: v St Martins
U21 Division 1 Semi Final
U16 Division 1 Cup Final: v Oylegate/Glynn-Barntown
U14 Division 6 Semi Final: in group
Naomh Éanna
Senior Semi Final: v Rathnure St Annes
Junior B Semi Final: v Rathgarogue-Cushinstown
U21 Division 2 Semi Final
Oulart-The Ballagh
U21 Premier Semi Final: v Buffers Alley
Minor Premier Cup Final: v Glynn-Barntown
U16 Division 1 Shield Final: v Blackwater
U14 Division 1 Final: v Glynn-Barntown
Oylegate-Glenbrien
Senior Relegation: v Crossabeg-Ballymurn
Junior A: Relegated
U21 Division 1 Semi Final
U16 Division 1 Cup Final: with Glynn-Barntown v Monageer
Rapparees
U16 Division 3 Cup Final: v Rathnure St Annes
U14 Division 2 Cup Final: v St Anne's Rathangan
U12 2A Finalists
Rathnure / Rathnure St Annes
Senior Semi Final: v Naomh Éanna
Junior Semi Final: v St Patrick's
Junior B Semi Final: v Shelmaliers
U21 Premier Semi Final v Shelmaliers
Minor Roinn 1 Cup Final: v Liam Mellows
U16 Division 3 Cup Final: v Rapparees
U14 Division 3 Cup Final: v Fr O'Reagans Craanford
U12 1A Winners
Slaney Harriers
Minor Roinn 2 Cup Final: v Ballyhogue
Shelmaliers
Junior B Semi Final: v Rathnure
U21 Premier Semi Final v Rathnure
St Anne's Rathangan
Minor Roinn 4 Final: v Horeswood
U14 Division 2 Cup Final: v Rapparees
St Fintans
Junior: Relegated
St James
Intermediate Semi Final: v St Mogues Fethard
Minor Roinn 3 Cup Final: v Davidstown-Courtnacuddy
U12 5D Winners
St Martins
Senior Semi Final: v Ferns St Aidans
Minor Roinn 1 Shield Final: v Monageer-Boolavogue
U14 Division 2 Shield Final: v Faythe Harriers
St Mogues Fethard
Intermediate Semi Final: v St James
St Patricks
Junior Semi Final: v Rathnure
U16 Division 4 Shield Final: v Duffry Rovers
U14 Division 3 Shield Final: v Blackwater
U14 Division 6 Semi Final: v Liam Mellows
St Marys Rosslare
U12 3B Finalists
Some observations from the above list
1. Monageer, Craanford and Davidstown performed well this year and competing in finals across multiple grades and also in adult grades. Shows a lot of work put in at these clubs that will hopefully transfer to adult grades in coming years. Been a long time since Monageer was in Senior grade/ Top of Intermediate.
2. Do Rathnure prove the point of only focusing on one code? Rathnure are in a semi final or final from their three adults teams all the way down to u12. Compare that to Shels, Rapparees and Ferns St Aidans who would also have bigger numbers than Rathnure. Are they hindering their hurling development by playing 2 codes? The more games you win the more you are exposed to competitive games and obviously if you start winning more finals the more enthusiasm you will have to stick with playing hurling.
3. Geraldine O Hanrahans are in sad state of affairs. Multiple walkovers in u14,no team at u21,joined with Cloughbawn at minor, their one and only adult team relegated to Junior. For a town team this is very worrying and I know it has been pointed out here previously but I would fear for their future. A lot of teams in Ross district more so than any other have combined teams, Clongeen,Fethard St James and Gussarane and Bannow. Years previously Bannow would have joined with Clongeen and Adamstown with Cushinstown. Could be said that Ross District more football orientated and with changing populations especially in these areas, what does the future hold for these clubs and should Wexford Gaa be doing more for the Ross district as a whole for hurling." That is an impressive listing. Well Done
Some additional obervations
1. Oulart and their appearance in quite a few premier underage finals.
2. Geraldines - Yes worrying times for New Ross - and they are doing quite a bit of development work there currently with a new pitch / upgrades to dressing rooms etc. However surely Wexford GAA can go and help them with some sort of player / coaching recruitment
3. Gorey - disappointing that such a large club isn't more dominant at underage level. No underage finals and only in a Division 2 at U21 level.
4. Shelmaliers - underage dominance seems to have dropped over the last few seasons. They had a constant supply line over the last 8-10 years for winning minor / u21 teams.
5. Davidstown / Monageer - big few weeks for both of these clubs. I think it's really important for both to return to at least Intermediate hurling - only one can potentially return this year though. Both would consider themselves hurling clubs I reckon at this stage. Both have good young teams.
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Replying To MyOhMi: "That is an impressive listing. Well Done
Some additional obervations
1. Oulart and their appearance in quite a few premier underage finals.
2. Geraldines - Yes worrying times for New Ross - and they are doing quite a bit of development work there currently with a new pitch / upgrades to dressing rooms etc. However surely Wexford GAA can go and help them with some sort of player / coaching recruitment
3. Gorey - disappointing that such a large club isn't more dominant at underage level. No underage finals and only in a Division 2 at U21 level.
4. Shelmaliers - underage dominance seems to have dropped over the last few seasons. They had a constant supply line over the last 8-10 years for winning minor / u21 teams.
5. Davidstown / Monageer - big few weeks for both of these clubs. I think it's really important for both to return to at least Intermediate hurling - only one can potentially return this year though. Both would consider themselves hurling clubs I reckon at this stage. Both have good young teams." Shels and Gorey are still playing in higher divisions than most clubs though. Usually division 1, occasionally division 2.
Oulart should have a good adult team in a few years, if lads keep at the hurling, stay local, and keep improving.
Monageer and Davidstown going ok, but mainly in lower divisions than 1 or 2.
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Have GOH ever amalgamated with another club at underage level?
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A very impressive list by camánoutathat all right. Even nerdy me and my tendency towards long posts wouldn't have gone to those lengths!
But just to echo or comment on something mentioned in different ways by Viking66 and MyohMi -
Personally, I'd rather be competing and finishing third of fourth in the top division of any underage grade, rather than winning Div. 3, 4 or 5.
That's the broad equivalent of at adult level, being a semi-finalist and therefore a real contender at senior level, rather than ending up as champions of Intermediate 'A', Junior, or Junior 'A'.
So, if a supposedly "big" or "strong" club doesn't have too many finals against their name there, I wouldn't necessarily take it as a sign that their underage standards are slipping. They could be third best in the top division. They could absolutely cakewalk one of the lower divisions.
Likewise, for other - let's say "developing" - clubs, I wouldn't necessarily see a big number of Div. 3, 4 or 5 finals as being progress. A better sign of progress would be competing strongly in the higher divisions, even if they didn't make it to the finals of them.
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