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@formertownie - I think that's a very good idea. Means one of the teams who finish sixth will eventually go down (just don't know exactly when!), and all others would be safe.

Am sure that if you put it in through your club when the time comes to submit motions, it'd spark a good debate and be seriously considered.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3098 - 12/09/2025 16:00:44    2635896

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Replying To lefty:  "One group of 12,
4 rounds, open draw each week,
after 4 rounds 1st v 8th, 2nd v 7th, 3rd v 6th, 4th v 5th in quarters,
9th v 12th, 10th v 11th relegation semi finals,"
Am not so sure about this suggestion.

I know that sort of 'Swiss style' draw is in use for things like the Champions League in soccer, but there are all sorts of seeding coefficients there to keep the draw as even as possible. Don't see how it would work here.

Just take the example of senior hurling here, and for argument's sake, let's say the final group tables this year are proof positive of the 'best' teams, the mid-tier teams, and the 'worst' teams. That'd mean that the teams who finished third (Naomh Éanna and Shels) are of exactly equal standard.

In open draws like you suggest, one of them could get the four 'best' teams (Rathnure, St. Anne's, St. Martin's and Faythe Harriers). The other one could get the four 'worst' (Oylegate-Glenbrien, Crossabeg-Ballymurn, Glynn-Barntown, and Oulart-The Ballagh). They'd likely have vastly different results against different standards of opposition, instead of being tested in the group against the same standard of opposition.

Obviously, luck of the draw is always a thing in sports, but I think that just too much would depend on it here.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3098 - 12/09/2025 16:05:47    2635898

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Well the phoney war is defintely over and the championship has roared into life after that classic in Wexford Park tonight.

Game had everything, unreal scores in the conditions, heroic blocks and saves, freak goals.

You'd feel sorry for Oylegate, and no matter what happens, they'll have a local derby in the relegation final that'll add an extra layer to the tension.

Fair play to Oulart though, they looked like relegation certs for much of the group stages and dead and buried early in the second half when Oylegate got the first two scores after the break. Their bench made a huge difference, Oylegate's not as much.

Mikie Kelly really needs a run with the county next year. And D.Reck should be explored as a midfielder.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1506 - 12/09/2025 21:43:18    2635921

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Replying To beano:  "Well the phoney war is defintely over and the championship has roared into life after that classic in Wexford Park tonight.

Game had everything, unreal scores in the conditions, heroic blocks and saves, freak goals.

You'd feel sorry for Oylegate, and no matter what happens, they'll have a local derby in the relegation final that'll add an extra layer to the tension.

Fair play to Oulart though, they looked like relegation certs for much of the group stages and dead and buried early in the second half when Oylegate got the first two scores after the break. Their bench made a huge difference, Oylegate's not as much.

Mikie Kelly really needs a run with the county next year. And D.Reck should be explored as a midfielder."
Dont think Oulart looked like certain relegaion were very unlucky in a few games. They always have a chance with good stick men and workrate

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 443 - 12/09/2025 22:20:14    2635925

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "@formertownie - I think that's a very good idea. Means one of the teams who finish sixth will eventually go down (just don't know exactly when!), and all others would be safe.

Am sure that if you put it in through your club when the time comes to submit motions, it'd spark a good debate and be seriously considered."
Always trying to find a better solution to compliment new format . But still keep round Robin competitive and interesting with jeopardy . . .
Imagine in tonight's scenario oulart into 1/4 final abd still not 100% safe from relegation .
Now c/beg have to match the win or go strsught down no 2nd chance . Be fairly tense build up to their game .
Saying that would oulart have beaten naomh eanna if 6th v 3rd prelim .
It might work and i hope i dont forget it before motions go in . I d have no issue if someone else wanted to put it in either or similar where being 6th has a serious consequence .

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 443 - 12/09/2025 22:33:52    2635926

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Replying To beano:  "Well the phoney war is defintely over and the championship has roared into life after that classic in Wexford Park tonight.

Game had everything, unreal scores in the conditions, heroic blocks and saves, freak goals.

You'd feel sorry for Oylegate, and no matter what happens, they'll have a local derby in the relegation final that'll add an extra layer to the tension.

Fair play to Oulart though, they looked like relegation certs for much of the group stages and dead and buried early in the second half when Oylegate got the first two scores after the break. Their bench made a huge difference, Oylegate's not as much.

Mikie Kelly really needs a run with the county next year. And D.Reck should be explored as a midfielder."
Fantastic game in absolutely ##### conditions. Kelly and Damien Reck both excellent ok. Kian O'Connor played well when he came on and is surely worth a call from u20 management, Simon Roche was good also. Sean Rowley played very well for Oylegate. Shame Billy Dunne won't commit fully, or hasn't so far. Plenty food for thought for Keith there.
And it puts a little more pressure on GB and Crossabeg, neither will want to face Oylegate in a relegation final.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17055 - 13/09/2025 05:09:59    2635946

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Replying To beano:  "Well the phoney war is defintely over and the championship has roared into life after that classic in Wexford Park tonight.

Game had everything, unreal scores in the conditions, heroic blocks and saves, freak goals.

You'd feel sorry for Oylegate, and no matter what happens, they'll have a local derby in the relegation final that'll add an extra layer to the tension.

Fair play to Oulart though, they looked like relegation certs for much of the group stages and dead and buried early in the second half when Oylegate got the first two scores after the break. Their bench made a huge difference, Oylegate's not as much.

Mikie Kelly really needs a run with the county next year. And D.Reck should be explored as a midfielder."
Been saying this for years Damien Recks best position could be midfield would love to see him paired with Conor Hearne. Also Agree on Mike Kelly could give us much needed size and physicality

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 702 - 13/09/2025 08:27:13    2635947

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Replying To beano:  "Well the phoney war is defintely over and the championship has roared into life after that classic in Wexford Park tonight.

Game had everything, unreal scores in the conditions, heroic blocks and saves, freak goals.

You'd feel sorry for Oylegate, and no matter what happens, they'll have a local derby in the relegation final that'll add an extra layer to the tension.

Fair play to Oulart though, they looked like relegation certs for much of the group stages and dead and buried early in the second half when Oylegate got the first two scores after the break. Their bench made a huge difference, Oylegate's not as much.

Mikie Kelly really needs a run with the county next year. And D.Reck should be explored as a midfielder."
Oulart were unlucky in a few games, no suprise they won. Eoin Moore outstanding for them again. They could give the quarter final a rattle too. Oylegate disappointing again into a relegation final.Werent they relegated around 2019 came back up and thought they were developing a fine team made a county final but there's no guarantees. Would fancy them to stay up though.

WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 305 - 13/09/2025 10:15:16    2635953

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Not sure where they got five minutes injury time from in the Ferns-Shels game, can understand why he played a minute over as he did similar in the first half

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 637 - 14/09/2025 17:22:26    2636106

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Draw for quarter finals

Rathnure St. Anne's v Glynn-Barntown
St. Martin's v Oulart-The Ballagh
Faythe Harriers v Ferns St. Aidans
St. Anne's Rathangan v Naomh Éanna

Relegation
Oylegate v Ballymurn

Anne's and Naomh Eanna would be the pick for me.

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 527 - 14/09/2025 20:57:49    2636151

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Rathnure v Glynn
St Martins v Oulart
Harriers v Ferns
Naomh Eanna v St Annes

What is everyone's thoughts.

Based on form you would have to say Rathnure and St. Martins should get through although Glynn will give Rathnure a good run.

Think the other two are harder to call.

Graham915oc (Wexford) - Posts: 4 - 14/09/2025 21:25:46    2636157

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Replying To Graham915oc:  "Rathnure v Glynn
St Martins v Oulart
Harriers v Ferns
Naomh Eanna v St Annes

What is everyone's thoughts.

Based on form you would have to say Rathnure and St. Martins should get through although Glynn will give Rathnure a good run.

Think the other two are harder to call."
Fancy Martin's an rathnure anyway.

I thought we've a good chance against ferns.

Gorey and the Anne's should be very close. The slightest fancy for Anne's.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3923 - 14/09/2025 22:46:23    2636176

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Just a question put to me last night.
Can a a player who has already played in this years junior championship then play in some senior championship games in the same year?
My own thoughts is that he wouldn't. Am I wrong?

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 554 - 15/09/2025 09:44:09    2636193

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Replying To Formertownie:  "Always trying to find a better solution to compliment new format . But still keep round Robin competitive and interesting with jeopardy . . .
Imagine in tonight's scenario oulart into 1/4 final abd still not 100% safe from relegation .
Now c/beg have to match the win or go strsught down no 2nd chance . Be fairly tense build up to their game .
Saying that would oulart have beaten naomh eanna if 6th v 3rd prelim .
It might work and i hope i dont forget it before motions go in . I d have no issue if someone else wanted to put it in either or similar where being 6th has a serious consequence ."
Just back to this one. Occurs to me that the suggestion is only valid for as long as we keep the system of everybody going through from the group stage anyway.

I still think far better would be a return to the previous way, with just the top four going through, fifth place being finished, and sixth going straight into relegation. My own club was one of those that put in a motion for that this year, and I'd say we'll be doing the same for next year too.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3098 - 15/09/2025 09:49:19    2636195

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Just back to this one. Occurs to me that the suggestion is only valid for as long as we keep the system of everybody going through from the group stage anyway.

I still think far better would be a return to the previous way, with just the top four going through, fifth place being finished, and sixth going straight into relegation. My own club was one of those that put in a motion for that this year, and I'd say we'll be doing the same for next year too."
Agreed back to the current football version. For me, when you finish bottom you should be in relegation, and I dont mind any version after that, where 5th goes through in an extra round or back to the old system. Over the weekend, seeing teh figures of how many sixth placed teams won there matches, 5 out of the 10 matches from senior to Junior were won by 6th placed teams in the league.

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 527 - 15/09/2025 10:26:09    2636202

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Replying To Magpie2:  "Just a question put to me last night.
Can a a player who has already played in this years junior championship then play in some senior championship games in the same year?
My own thoughts is that he wouldn't. Am I wrong?"
To be blunt about it - you're wrong.

Has always been the case that somebody can move up the grades as the year goes on, e.g. starting out with a club's junior team but then moving up to the seniors.

The big thing is that he can't then go back down to the juniors afterwards, unless he's one of the three regradings that are allowed after the first two senior matches. If he plays senior in the third or any subsequent match, there's no way back down for him.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3098 - 15/09/2025 10:44:31    2636205

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Replying To Magpie2:  "Just a question put to me last night.
Can a a player who has already played in this years junior championship then play in some senior championship games in the same year?
My own thoughts is that he wouldn't. Am I wrong?"
Yes a player can move up from Junior to Senior (maybe you meant the opposite)

If a player played Senior in either of the first two rounds then there was an option to regrade two players for round 3 so their status was restored to the Clubs second team. However you could only go down one grade.

With regards to the senior draws - some interesting ones to be fair.

Glynn have been a bit of a bogey team for Rathnure but I do think they will win. However getting over a Q/F is a big weight on Rathnure's back for last number of years. I don't think they have got to a semi final since maybe 2013?. Lost quite a few Q/Fs to Rapps and Anne's over 5/6 year period.

Oulart won't pose any threat to St. Martins. Martins moving too fast through the lines - Oulart not up to that level unfortunately

Gorey V Annes looks to be the tie of the round. Gorey were moving very well yesterday. Although I didn't see the game, apparently Rapps were not at the races at all.

Ferns could be surprise semi finalists yet.

MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 225 - 15/09/2025 10:51:49    2636208

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Speaking of rules and eligibility and the like, heard that a major controversy was luckily averted in Bellefield on Saturday in the Blackwater v Horeswood intermediate match.

Blackwater leading by a goal in injury time and Horeswood on the attack, when one of the Blackwater men committed a foul and was sent off on a second yellow card. Horeswood scored a goal from the free, to send things to extra time.

Then Blackwater somehow decided to go back up to 15 players for extra time, despite the new rule this year that cards carry over. Don't know why the referee allowed it. He must not have known the new rule himself. And Blackwater then played all of extra time with a man more than they should have had.

Luckily Horeswood went on to beat them anyway. Otherwise there'd have been all sorts of controversy where the proper action would have been to award the game to Horeswood, and throw Blackwater out of the championship despite them "winning" the match. And surely then all sorts of appeals, and a whole mess again.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3098 - 15/09/2025 10:53:07    2636210

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Speaking of rules and eligibility and the like, heard that a major controversy was luckily averted in Bellefield on Saturday in the Blackwater v Horeswood intermediate match.

Blackwater leading by a goal in injury time and Horeswood on the attack, when one of the Blackwater men committed a foul and was sent off on a second yellow card. Horeswood scored a goal from the free, to send things to extra time.

Then Blackwater somehow decided to go back up to 15 players for extra time, despite the new rule this year that cards carry over. Don't know why the referee allowed it. He must not have known the new rule himself. And Blackwater then played all of extra time with a man more than they should have had.

Luckily Horeswood went on to beat them anyway. Otherwise there'd have been all sorts of controversy where the proper action would have been to award the game to Horeswood, and throw Blackwater out of the championship despite them "winning" the match. And surely then all sorts of appeals, and a whole mess again."
Was goingfyoxsay they might face suspensions anyway but wont affect relegation as seperate competition . Or will it be club officers or management .
I d say now its out there will be some form of repercussions . Surely at half time of et someone would ve realised of informed ref .

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 443 - 15/09/2025 11:47:35    2636229

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Just back to this one. Occurs to me that the suggestion is only valid for as long as we keep the system of everybody going through from the group stage anyway.

I still think far better would be a return to the previous way, with just the top four going through, fifth place being finished, and sixth going straight into relegation. My own club was one of those that put in a motion for that this year, and I'd say we'll be doing the same for next year too."
I d agree old system was far better .
It is just a suggestion if there is an appetite to stay similar structure .
I do believe people that came up with current structure will want to keep new structure in some form and not accept it.was nt a good fit for wexford .
That would be my reason for not putting in a motion on said suggested format tweak in case it gave new perspective and acceptable to majority . I d rathervit went back to old format .
Not quite accurate but c/beg would be gone down if it was tweaked . Only they would ve faced shels not oylgate . And oulart would have faced gorey so all hypothetical
I would still prefer old system to allow a couple of breaks in between especially for the dual players to recover.
I m sure shels rapps and oylgate would at this moment agree . Gone before the championship really starts. Where as oulart and glynn barntown are in bonus territory after escaping with wins . Seems unfair on shels . Shoukd ve been blown up aftrr equaliser strange decision by ref although he had a decent game overall .
C/beg are probably the only team that are where they are due to form and could nt argue it any .other way although maybe a bit unlucky in the end they still get another chance . Win 1 game in 7 to stay up .
Are oylgate the new cloughbawn .
1/4 final
Annes v naomh eanna - draw naomh eanna after et
Harriers v ferns - harriers by 4
Martins v oulart - martins by 10+
Rahnure v glynn - ratnure by 12 +
Oylgate v c/beg - c/beg relegated
Alternative 1/4s old format
Martins v ferns- Martins
Rathnure v Rapps . Been interesting with skippy rathnure
Harriers v naomh eanna - naomh eanna
Annes v shels - annes
Oulart v cbeg cbeg relegated
Think under old format the best teams would ve been in 1/4 finals and would potetially be more competive Could argue oylgate better than rapps at present .

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 443 - 15/09/2025 12:34:55    2636243

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