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Replying To bloodandbandage: "I'll echo that, it is nice to read sensible and fair comments, unlike the snidey ones from lads who's counties are a million miles away from AI titles." Oooooh:-D
Seriously though why do you think you deserve your county winning an AI more than a lad from Camross, Kilmoyley or na Fianna putting in free hours of his time with his club every night of the week trying to improve his team of young lads? If you still can't understand why your entitled opinions are annoying then you really are aren't the fair empathetic type that you seem to think you are.
I give up around 25 hours a week on average of my time for free to my club and county, this week its over 30 hours, and we have previously won AIs in both Football and Hurling. I don't see that any of that means that Wexford are any more entitled to win another AI than Laois, Dublin or Kerry. And certainly we all aren't less entitled to win one than Cork.
The more you argue this point the more arrogant and self entitled you seem to be.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16738 - 22/07/2025 20:21:20
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "Look I feel sorry for any player who loses a final but the fact of the matter is Cork were not up for a battle in the second half but Tipp were. They won every breaking ball and Cork just could not do anything.
Any time I saw the Cork selectors they were 4-5 people in a huddle with no changes. They looked like lads where 1 lad wasn't been let in to the night club thinking about their next move. And yet changes were slow and very scarce.
The contrast to Liam Cahill was unbelievable, he consulted with 1 selector a few times and kept freshening it up with subs. It was a tactical master class by Cahill and a gutsy battling performance by his team. I say it in my club in Wexford where I live the first thing you have to be is up for the fight and Cork weren't.
I can tolerate losing to a better hurling team but to be out-battled is unforgiveable and I can't abide the "we hit the post, we did this we did that, if this hadn't happened, the referee, etc" post-mortem. You have 60-70 minutes to alter the course of the game and complaining after it is just loser mindset.
Patrick Horgan has played in 4 All-Ireland finals and has 7 points from play in those 4 matches. To me that is not enough for a top forward.
The thing is having lost 2 now, its not going to get easier for Cork to get over the line and as usual, Munster will be a bear pit." Agree with you on this Exiled, but I haven't heard any of them excuses from Cork supporters or management/back room team since Sunday so not sure where you heard them?
Everyone down here is in full acceptance of what you said. Out battled, out played, no excuses.
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Replying To richiepmurphy: "That poster comes out with the weirdest of points. Always sticking wexford hurlers into conversations not remotely related to wexford!" None of Laois, Dublin or Kerry are in Wexford. And the OP was suggesting Cork deserved to win as it was so long since they last won one. I was merely pointing out that there were several other previous winners who have had to wait alot longer.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16738 - 22/07/2025 20:28:49
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Replying To bloodandbandage: "100%. Look, his fellow county men tell him he's deluded. He constantly states that Wexford are not far off the top teams, this despite them getting relegated, finishing outside the top 3 in a poor Leinster, and way off it under age." At least we don't go running to Croke Park with our tails between our legs to get the League changed any time we get relegated. And our minors absolutely hammered yours last year in a knockout AI minor Championship game. I was there, we were 12 points up at the end of normal time. So if we are way off it where were you at minor last year?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16738 - 22/07/2025 20:32:35
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "Look I feel sorry for any player who loses a final but the fact of the matter is Cork were not up for a battle in the second half but Tipp were. They won every breaking ball and Cork just could not do anything.
Any time I saw the Cork selectors they were 4-5 people in a huddle with no changes. They looked like lads where 1 lad wasn't been let in to the night club thinking about their next move. And yet changes were slow and very scarce.
The contrast to Liam Cahill was unbelievable, he consulted with 1 selector a few times and kept freshening it up with subs. It was a tactical master class by Cahill and a gutsy battling performance by his team. I say it in my club in Wexford where I live the first thing you have to be is up for the fight and Cork weren't.
I can tolerate losing to a better hurling team but to be out-battled is unforgiveable and I can't abide the "we hit the post, we did this we did that, if this hadn't happened, the referee, etc" post-mortem. You have 60-70 minutes to alter the course of the game and complaining after it is just loser mindset.
Patrick Horgan has played in 4 All-Ireland finals and has 7 points from play in those 4 matches. To me that is not enough for a top forward.
The thing is having lost 2 now, its not going to get easier for Cork to get over the line and as usual, Munster will be a bear pit." You'd imagine if it's not 'easier'' for Cork, that should suit them, and improve their chances. You can really only rationalise Cork's second half 'level' last Sunday in the context of a team that was complacent, over confident, caught on the hop, and thought it would be 'easier'. In hindsight, there was an enormous air of over confidence in Cork and around the country about Cork's chances in this game. The NHL final, and the similar enough MHC clash was probably at the root of it, and the Dublin semifinal rout was likely the icing on 'the complacency cake' in and around Cork.
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "Look I feel sorry for any player who loses a final but the fact of the matter is Cork were not up for a battle in the second half but Tipp were. They won every breaking ball and Cork just could not do anything.
Any time I saw the Cork selectors they were 4-5 people in a huddle with no changes. They looked like lads where 1 lad wasn't been let in to the night club thinking about their next move. And yet changes were slow and very scarce.
The contrast to Liam Cahill was unbelievable, he consulted with 1 selector a few times and kept freshening it up with subs. It was a tactical master class by Cahill and a gutsy battling performance by his team. I say it in my club in Wexford where I live the first thing you have to be is up for the fight and Cork weren't.
I can tolerate losing to a better hurling team but to be out-battled is unforgiveable and I can't abide the "we hit the post, we did this we did that, if this hadn't happened, the referee, etc" post-mortem. You have 60-70 minutes to alter the course of the game and complaining after it is just loser mindset.
Patrick Horgan has played in 4 All-Ireland finals and has 7 points from play in those 4 matches. To me that is not enough for a top forward.
The thing is having lost 2 now, its not going to get easier for Cork to get over the line and as usual, Munster will be a bear pit." "Any time I saw the Cork selectors they were 4-5 people in a huddle with no changes. They looked like lads where 1 lad wasn't been let in to the night club thinking about their next move"
The funniest line posted on this forum in a long time :-D
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16738 - 22/07/2025 20:36:08
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Replying To brayballer: "Great post bud. I just dont get this Cork attitude that Horgan deserves a medal.He is a good player certainly but he not the only player that deserves a medal. Ciaran Whelan played for Dublin for 15 years and has no medal.He got sandwiched between the 95 win and 2011 win. Look at Aidan O shea Mayo and Paul Conroy Galway.In hurling far better than Horgan have no medals like John Mullane, Paul Flynn,Ciaran Carey,Lee Chin. Do they not deserve it more than Horgan?" Add Tony Browne and Ken Mc Grath to that list.
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Replying To Gillo: "Add Tony Browne and Ken Mc Grath to that list." Damien Hayes, Ollie Canning, Liam Watson, Sambo McNaughton.
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Replying To Gillo: "Add Tony Browne and Ken Mc Grath to that list." Cork need to forget about Hoggy and the medal. He shouldn't be starting. Pat Ryan a gentleman needs to step down also. There's plenty of talent in Cork and if they could find a Donal O'Grady style Manager to put a bit of steel in them, Cork could well win the All Ireland. They've won 30 All Irelands before so it's not that foreign to them.
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Replying To Gillo: "Add Tony Browne and Ken Mc Grath to that list." Ollie Canning
Crashingwaves (Galway) - Posts: 262 - 22/07/2025 21:00:57
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Tipperary the only county in hurling or football to win a senior All Ireland in every decade since the All Ireland's began. Some record.
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Replying To Viking66: "Oooooh:-D
Seriously though why do you think you deserve your county winning an AI more than a lad from Camross, Kilmoyley or na Fianna putting in free hours of his time with his club every night of the week trying to improve his team of young lads? If you still can't understand why your entitled opinions are annoying then you really are aren't the fair empathetic type that you seem to think you are.
I give up around 25 hours a week on average of my time for free to my club and county, this week its over 30 hours, and we have previously won AIs in both Football and Hurling. I don't see that any of that means that Wexford are any more entitled to win another AI than Laois, Dublin or Kerry. And certainly we all aren't less entitled to win one than Cork.
The more you argue this point the more arrogant and self entitled you seem to be." 25-30 hours a week posting on this forum also based on over 16,000 posts!!!!!!!!
Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2303 - 22/07/2025 21:59:03
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "Look I feel sorry for any player who loses a final but the fact of the matter is Cork were not up for a battle in the second half but Tipp were. They won every breaking ball and Cork just could not do anything.
Any time I saw the Cork selectors they were 4-5 people in a huddle with no changes. They looked like lads where 1 lad wasn't been let in to the night club thinking about their next move. And yet changes were slow and very scarce.
The contrast to Liam Cahill was unbelievable, he consulted with 1 selector a few times and kept freshening it up with subs. It was a tactical master class by Cahill and a gutsy battling performance by his team. I say it in my club in Wexford where I live the first thing you have to be is up for the fight and Cork weren't.
I can tolerate losing to a better hurling team but to be out-battled is unforgiveable and I can't abide the "we hit the post, we did this we did that, if this hadn't happened, the referee, etc" post-mortem. You have 60-70 minutes to alter the course of the game and complaining after it is just loser mindset.
Patrick Horgan has played in 4 All-Ireland finals and has 7 points from play in those 4 matches. To me that is not enough for a top forward.
The thing is having lost 2 now, its not going to get easier for Cork to get over the line and as usual, Munster will be a bear pit." Your stat on Patrick Horgan of 7 points from play in 4 finals isn't great. But for comparison, TJ Reid has a total of 1 point from play in his last 4 All-Ireland finals. All finals which they lost, but he wasn't flagged as a reason they lost.
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Replying To Jedobi: "Tipperary the only county in hurling or football to win a senior All Ireland in every decade since the All Ireland's began. Some record." Remarkable consistency alright. They were only toying with us all with their drought from 1971 to 1989. Pulled it out of the bag when they needed to.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2474 - 22/07/2025 22:30:14
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Replying To Claretandblue: "25-30 hours a week posting on this forum also based on over 16,000 posts!!!!!!!!" Probably way too much time a day lad for sure. If I posted less I probably wouldn't have to still be in the workshop at this time like I am tonight.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16738 - 22/07/2025 22:42:50
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2025 Senior Hurling Championship Top Scorers:
Sean Currie - Dublin 4-68
Cathal Mannion - Galway 2-67
Lee Chin - Wexford 3-56
Top Scorers from Play:
Cian O'Sullivan - Dublin 5-22
John McGrath - Tipp 7-16 (2-02 in the Final)
Martin Keoghan - Kilkenny 6-15
A great achievement by Sean and Cian to be at the top of Hurling Championship scorers for 2025.
As for Lee Chin - a remarkable player, year in and year out. Top class.
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Spare a thought for those of us not from Tipp listening to a Tipp WAG for the next year.
But you have to credit them. They completely out-fought and out-muscled Cork in the second half.
A goal before half time can be a killer but fair play to them they upped the ante from the start of the second half and Cork had no answer.
I also do not like the "Hoggy deserves a medal". You deserve nothing in this sport, you earn everything. He is no more deserving than Lee Chin or Shane Dooley or whoever.
I thought Willie Connors should have been man of the match. He was everywhere in the second half and won every hard ball going.
Cork will just have to lick their wounds and come out swinging next year.
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Replying To Fionn: "2025 Senior Hurling Championship Top Scorers:
Sean Currie - Dublin 4-68
Cathal Mannion - Galway 2-67
Lee Chin - Wexford 3-56
Top Scorers from Play:
Cian O'Sullivan - Dublin 5-22
John McGrath - Tipp 7-16 (2-02 in the Final)
Martin Keoghan - Kilkenny 6-15
A great achievement by Sean and Cian to be at the top of Hurling Championship scorers for 2025.
As for Lee Chin - a remarkable player, year in and year out. Top class." I suppose any team playing Antrim has a good shot at that?
StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1912 - 23/07/2025 12:14:46
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