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What is the old Tipp saying - the hay saved and Cork bet !!
I watched as a neutral - poor enough first half, but like the consensus, I felt Cork were going to power on in the second. It looked to me Cork were picking off their scores more easily with a wasteful Tipp just about hanging in there. Generally mediocre enough display for an AI final, but emerging signs of Cork spluttering into life.
Then it happened …. clearly Tipp came out to stamp their authority on proceedings early doors and the Cork men … had… literally … nothing. Whether it was they had not been tested in the championship and physically couldn't live with Tipp, or mentally lost it. Perhaps a bit of both. Everything that could have gone wrong for Cork happened - early goal, converted Tipp penalty, full back red carded, a brace of Cork shots came back off the bar, Corks penalty saved, to rub salt into it the Tipp keeper then scored - you literally couldn't make it up !! Young Tipp players who could have been over awed by the occasion rose to it with aplomb. On the field where were the Cork leaders - if there are any - eg Horgan ??? - near the end it was like a practice match the ease with which Tipp could hurl.
Throw in the (non) reaction from the Cork line - should the yellow carded full back have been replaced? Persisting with long ball in on Tipp where it was like Christmas for them. They were powerless by the end to do anything to remedy the utter annihilation they were witnessing.
This was a complete and utter systemic failure by Cork, total humiliation for a group who did not deserve it. A senior club team would have put more than two points on the board in the second half !! This period will no exaggeration be spoken about for years - 'to do a Cork' or some such phrase will emerge. I think Cork are not as bad as they showed nor equally is Tipp as good as the display they gave, but fair dues to them they played what was in front of them. However as ever mentality and attitude win games - Cork has the skill, physical conditioning, tradition etc but were lacking in the top few inches. I do wonder if they have the wherewithal to overcome this - other counties will have seen yesterday and feel they at least could have made a game of it.
The beauty of this is the magic of sport where an 'underdog' can come in and up-end everything !! Congrats Tipp
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Replying To LimerickandProud: "Congratulations to Tipperary and their Supporters. Some performance and all genuine hurling people couldn't but be impressed.
This is actually good for Hurling. Remember Tipperary finished bottom of the Table in Munster last year and looked Clueless, but the display yesterday was simply unbelievable, and worlds apart from last year.
This should offer massive encouragement to all counties, but in particular the Waterfords, Wexfords, Dublin's and Offaly's of this world who have their shoulder to the wheel trying to break back into hurling's tope table. Change can take place very quick with a infusion of new/young players.
For Cork fans, nobody can say anything to them today, this will hurt a lot. But Cork are the biggest hurling county in the country, with the biggest numbers of hurling clubs and playing numbers and they will be never be too far away. I think if they stick with Pat Ryan eventually it will happen so people would do well to keep their powder dry and not talk **** about them today." Nice to read a sensible and measures comment while I am not forgetting that the big 3 have most of the titles you would have sympathy for Cork an unbelievable no show in 2nd half could even win a few scorable frees sad for Hoggie too Tipp have invested heavily in youth who have won underage titles they were thinking of there late hurlinhing comrade Dylan Quirke and paid a very emotive and respectful tribute to him.
Next year will be a bear pit in Munster Limerick have not gone away have plenty of years left in them might need to hit the refresh button a bit a little shakeup here and there impossible to call who will emerge it would take from the competitive edge but 4 qualifiers from Leinster & Munster would overall make for a better AI series
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When you concede bad goals things go south quickly. Would not rate Collin's among top goalies but of course a full back waving at butterflies doesn't help.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3152 - 21/07/2025 13:39:40
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If people are being honest especially Cork people their hurling sides since Donal Og's team finished have been regarded as a soft touch. Their skill level and pace means they will win plenty of matches but ultimately will be found wanting when it matters. The key players for Cork teams in the past were Tim Crowley, Pat Moylan, Niall McCarthy, Timmy McCarthy, Fergal McCormack, not the JBMs, Joe Deane etc. Men in the trenches needed yesterday but none found. Big job ahead of Pat Ryan
Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2303 - 21/07/2025 13:49:03
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Replying To Fionn: "Yep I have Cork relatives.
I just think 20 years is far too long for the Rebels not to win Liam.
I found them ok whenever they have beaten us tbh. Very gracious in fact.
I have always found the Cats to be more arrogant and insufferable - ooops, no offence Kilkenny posters on here... ;o(
As for the Dubs, hopefully Niall learns a lot from this year.
He admitted after the semi that he got his tactics wrong.
I would love nothing more than to see us get to an AI Hurling Final.
Maybe one day...." Well that makes sense.I was thinking you had a liking for Cork and could nt understand how a true blue would like Cork as they hate us so much.Well sorry for you so yesterday Fionn but not for Cork lol. Look ive had experience with loads of fans and everyone gets cranky at a live game but when the games are over listening to some are worse than others. I have Clare blood in me so I understand as I like to see Clare doing well too. Anyway next year hope the Dubs up the ante again in both codes
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Replying To clooney: "Nice to read a sensible and measures comment while I am not forgetting that the big 3 have most of the titles you would have sympathy for Cork an unbelievable no show in 2nd half could even win a few scorable frees sad for Hoggie too Tipp have invested heavily in youth who have won underage titles they were thinking of there late hurlinhing comrade Dylan Quirke and paid a very emotive and respectful tribute to him.
Next year will be a bear pit in Munster Limerick have not gone away have plenty of years left in them might need to hit the refresh button a bit a little shakeup here and there impossible to call who will emerge it would take from the competitive edge but 4 qualifiers from Leinster & Munster would overall make for a better AI series" It sure will.
Limerick have won 5 of the last 10 Hurling All Ireland's, and Tipp have won 3 out of that 10.
Hopefully a Leinster team will be there or thereabouts.
Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4545 - 21/07/2025 13:51:02
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Replying To WanPintWin: "I thought Tipp had a great chance before yesterday's game, given their experience of performing in finals and the fact that they have plenty of scoring forwards. Workrate was never going to be an issue for them either, as we'd seen all year. Of course I never expected such margin of victory and Cork's collapse was something else.
I genuinely feel for Cork after that. It'll be tough to come back from it, but they do have talented hurlers coming through. There might be a bit of a refresh needed.
The last 10 years have seen the following All-Ireland winners:
Limerick 5
Tipperary 3
Galway 1
Clare 1
Not a single title for the two most successful counties in that period, which is remarkable. Given that Kilkenny's longest drought is 11 years, I think, I'm pretty sure we've never had a 10 year stretch when neither they nor Cork won a title." There was a 5 year stretch 94-98 that neither won. That was probably the longest before now.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16738 - 21/07/2025 14:02:44
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Replying To Fionn: "Yep I have Cork relatives.
I just think 20 years is far too long for the Rebels not to win Liam.
I found them ok whenever they have beaten us tbh. Very gracious in fact.
I have always found the Cats to be more arrogant and insufferable - ooops, no offence Kilkenny posters on here... ;o(
As for the Dubs, hopefully Niall learns a lot from this year.
He admitted after the semi that he got his tactics wrong.
I would love nothing more than to see us get to an AI Hurling Final.
Maybe one day...." 20 years is too long? Why? It's nearly 135 since Kerry won one, around 110 since Laois won one, pushing towards 90 years since Dublin won one, around 65 years since Waterford won one, and nearly 30 years since we won one.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16738 - 21/07/2025 14:09:10
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Replying To brayballer: "Well that makes sense.I was thinking you had a liking for Cork and could nt understand how a true blue would like Cork as they hate us so much.Well sorry for you so yesterday Fionn but not for Cork lol. Look ive had experience with loads of fans and everyone gets cranky at a live game but when the games are over listening to some are worse than others. I have Clare blood in me so I understand as I like to see Clare doing well too. Anyway next year hope the Dubs up the ante again in both codes" LOL
Ah so when I see you shouting for Clare I will understand.... lol ;o)
In my experience of going to games, some of the worst supporters are not from Munster tbh.
As for next year, I think the Hurlers might be our best hope of silverware.
Looking forward to our Dublin SFC & and our next set of SHC games already.
Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4545 - 21/07/2025 14:32:01
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "Have you ever watched an Ulster football match?" Irony alert! It's the only football Championship worth watching.
Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9837 - 21/07/2025 14:39:08
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Replying To WanPintWin: "I thought Tipp had a great chance before yesterday's game, given their experience of performing in finals and the fact that they have plenty of scoring forwards. Workrate was never going to be an issue for them either, as we'd seen all year. Of course I never expected such margin of victory and Cork's collapse was something else.
I genuinely feel for Cork after that. It'll be tough to come back from it, but they do have talented hurlers coming through. There might be a bit of a refresh needed.
The last 10 years have seen the following All-Ireland winners:
Limerick 5
Tipperary 3
Galway 1
Clare 1
Not a single title for the two most successful counties in that period, which is remarkable. Given that Kilkenny's longest drought is 11 years, I think, I'm pretty sure we've never had a 10 year stretch when neither they nor Cork won a title." But we had to build a new trophy room.
Newyorkkat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 183 - 21/07/2025 14:39:20
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Replying To Viking66: "20 years is too long? Why? It's nearly 135 since Kerry won one, around 110 since Laois won one, pushing towards 90 years since Dublin won one, around 65 years since Waterford won one, and nearly 30 years since we won one." You are seriously putting Kerry. Laois and Dublin hurlers into your point...??? Really....!!!???
Last time I checked none were a traditional Hurling powerhouse.
Anyway, leave you to it....
Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4545 - 21/07/2025 15:38:51
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Don't know what or where it went wrong for cork..yes I know they hit woodwork and had a penalty saved but that was at a time when they needed goals..
It was first game this year where they were completely outdone in physicality..possibly a mistake not taking Downey off when on yellow..in fairness he has struggled this year when ball is played directly on top of him..I thought cork would be well on top at midfield but o mahony didn't hurl at all yesterday,fitzgibbon played well but his shooting wasn't up to his high standard..didn't understand pumping high ball into full forward line all day when it just wasn't working,suited the tipp full back line who were outstanding..one of the unsung heroes yesterday was Willie connors who possibly had his best game ever in a tipp shirt and managed to keep dalton invisible..cork possibly need to introduce some of the good under 20s from last few years,tipp have blended some of younger players with the experience round them..maybe the players weren't able to avoid all the hype that was in press and podcasts,very hard to avoid everything that is said..this could take a long time to recover from as I think it will hit harder than last year or any of the last few defeats.
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Perhaps an overlooked factor in the build up to yesterday's match is that Tipperary had eight players yesterday who either started or came on in the 2019 All Ireland final win. That's more than half a team and it must have been a huge help to them yesterday. The players are Ronan Maher, Michael Breen, John McGrath, Jason Forde, Willie Connors, Jake Morris , Noel McGrath and Seamus Kennedy.
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Replying To endgame: "Perhaps an overlooked factor in the build up to yesterday's match is that Tipperary had eight players yesterday who either started or came on in the 2019 All Ireland final win. That's more than half a team and it must have been a huge help to them yesterday. The players are Ronan Maher, Michael Breen, John McGrath, Jason Forde, Willie Connors, Jake Morris , Noel McGrath and Seamus Kennedy." Think Noel has 4 AI medals
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16738 - 21/07/2025 16:28:46
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I see the Cork players & management have decided to cancel their homecoming this evening... jeasus talk about sore loosers. A "thank your supporters we'll be back next year" wouldn't have been much skin off anyone's nose.
Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1452 - 21/07/2025 16:30:12
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Replying To Fionn: "You are seriously putting Kerry. Laois and Dublin hurlers into your point...??? Really....!!!???
Last time I checked none were a traditional Hurling powerhouse.
Anyway, leave you to it...." See that last line of your post, it's why Cork hurling supporters are so disliked. Why do you think you have any more right to an AI hurling title in any given year than Kerry, Laois or Dublin?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16738 - 21/07/2025 16:32:14
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Replying To Viking66: "See that last line of your post, it's why Cork hurling supporters are so disliked. Why do you think you have any more right to an AI hurling title in any given year than Kerry, Laois or Dublin?" You are missing the point..
If say Kerry or Dublin hadn't won Sam for 20 years, I would hardly come back to you and say - sure Kilkenny, / Laois / Waterford (never won it), or Limerick / Wexford who haven't won it in over a hundred years, for example....
But if you want to expand it to include non hurling strongholds, just to validate your point of view, then so be it.
Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4545 - 21/07/2025 16:59:47
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Replying To Viking66: "Think Noel has 4 AI medals" He has now. 2010, 2016, 2019 and 2025. He lost finals with Tipp in 2009, 2011 and 2014 all to Kilkenny.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2566 - 21/07/2025 17:02:09
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Replying To endgame: "He has now. 2010, 2016, 2019 and 2025. He lost finals with Tipp in 2009, 2011 and 2014 all to Kilkenny." Some record! Fair play to him!
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