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Replying To Bon:  "Haha, ah sure at least the kilkenny jubilee team will be there on Sunday, that'll be interesting"
At least? 36 All-Irelands

Newyorkkat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 183 - 16/07/2025 18:50:24    2626154

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They really need to address the lead in to the finals going forward. Its basically 5/6 days by the time the football semi finals are done. 3 weeks after the semi final weekend would be perfect then youd have a full 2 weeks to build up to the game once the football semi finals were done with.

Already looking forward to how bad up for the match will be again this year. but you cant not watch it!

mr305 (Galway) - Posts: 87 - 16/07/2025 20:07:06    2626167

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Replying To Bon:  "Ah that's fair enough. Was reading there about Cody, reckons he'll be out of the country for it. Can't imagine it being his scene anyway."
Wouldnt it be nice f the Sunday game team and the commentators shut up for a few minutes and bring the atmosphere of the parade to the people at home.

mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 541 - 16/07/2025 21:10:32    2626170

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Replying To mooncat:  "Wouldnt it be nice f the Sunday game team and the commentators shut up for a few minutes and bring the atmosphere of the parade to the people at home."
It'd be even nicer if people sang the National Anthem to the end too.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2471 - 16/07/2025 22:08:39    2626184

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Replying To Newyorkkat:  "At least? 36 All-Irelands"
That went totally over your head didn't it?

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2471 - 16/07/2025 22:11:17    2626187

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Replying To endgame:  "Yes. Not Cody's scene at all."
Out of the country? I'd say the man won't even be out of the county! Didn't he say once about warm weather training, when Cork were having annual overseas camps in the likes Spain and Portugal (Thailand even one year, AFAIR), that they were the same as the cold weather camps, and that they all happened in Nowlan Park? He might be in Nowlan Park on Sunday! Great man!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2354 - 16/07/2025 22:47:21    2626192

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Mad to think Tipperary are written off when (1) Tipp have previous All Ireland winners in their set up (and Cork don't); (2) Cork have taken a bad beating earlier in the championship(shows they have some questions about them); (3) it's Tipperary, if they get a sniff they will have the confidence tradation brings; (4) Cork under a lot of pressure and (5) Tipp have a few good wins this year.

GreenMan1987 (Meath) - Posts: 98 - 17/07/2025 09:15:57    2626215

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Some right good bets out there for Sunday, mainly around how Tipp are underdogs.

Tipp to lift the Cup is 12/5
Jake Morris to score a goal is 17/2
Eoin Downey to be man of the match is 33/1

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6526 - 17/07/2025 14:06:30    2626255

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Replying To GreenMan1987:  "Mad to think Tipperary are written off when (1) Tipp have previous All Ireland winners in their set up (and Cork don't); (2) Cork have taken a bad beating earlier in the championship(shows they have some questions about them); (3) it's Tipperary, if they get a sniff they will have the confidence tradation brings; (4) Cork under a lot of pressure and (5) Tipp have a few good wins this year."
I think its all outweighed by the two big beatings Cork have given Tipp this year. Tipp may be confident but if things start badly for them and Cork get a run on them will they wilt?
And I know one of those beatings was with 14 men but thats the closest form line
Plus Cork have been building for a few years now whereas Tipp have in an odd way come from nowhere (insofar as you can come from nowhere in a competition with only a handful of potential winners)

Given how good Cork look when things go their way, I'd say the betting is as close as it is for the reasons you mention, and nobody is writing off Tipps chances

Yadse (Limerick) - Posts: 171 - 17/07/2025 17:50:52    2626299

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Replying To katser:  "Cork beat Waterford and Dublin two poor teams and of course Tipperary and that defeat of Tipp could well be the rock you perish on come Sunday because Tipperary aren't going up to Croke Park to roll over and bend the knee to Cork....one word for you....Tip,Tip,Tip,Tip,Tip,Tip,Tip,Tip,Tip!!!"
It's amazing how twisted some peoples opinions are. I think we were closer to Cork than their opponents in the final. Also if the game was called according to the rules and let's be clear what that was, may be closer. Bennett hauled down by two Cork players as he was about to score a goal. A penalty and black card. So be it but saying we were a poor team without looking at the actual results and how they went.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3152 - 18/07/2025 00:53:43    2626333

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Great to see Harnedy back.

Hopefully Hoggie finally gets his hands on the Liam McCarthy Cup.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4545 - 18/07/2025 10:18:10    2626348

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Replying To Yadse:  "I think its all outweighed by the two big beatings Cork have given Tipp this year. Tipp may be confident but if things start badly for them and Cork get a run on them will they wilt?
And I know one of those beatings was with 14 men but thats the closest form line
Plus Cork have been building for a few years now whereas Tipp have in an odd way come from nowhere (insofar as you can come from nowhere in a competition with only a handful of potential winners)

Given how good Cork look when things go their way, I'd say the betting is as close as it is for the reasons you mention, and nobody is writing off Tipps chances"
Cork are 2/7 to lift cup with Paddy Power.

GreenMan1987 (Meath) - Posts: 98 - 18/07/2025 15:07:36    2626447

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Replying To Canuck:  "It's amazing how twisted some peoples opinions are. I think we were closer to Cork than their opponents in the final. Also if the game was called according to the rules and let's be clear what that was, may be closer. Bennett hauled down by two Cork players as he was about to score a goal. A penalty and black card. So be it but saying we were a poor team without looking at the actual results and how they went."
Results and trophies are what count .

Newyorkkat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 183 - 18/07/2025 17:38:15    2626463

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Replying To Newyorkkat:  "Results and trophies are what count ."
Yes but someone putting Waterford performance in the same category as a team who gave up 7 goals and took a beating of 20 points is twisting something. I would not reach that conclusion if it was the other way around.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3152 - 19/07/2025 14:19:24    2626534

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Replying To Canuck:  "It's amazing how twisted some peoples opinions are. I think we were closer to Cork than their opponents in the final. Also if the game was called according to the rules and let's be clear what that was, may be closer. Bennett hauled down by two Cork players as he was about to score a goal. A penalty and black card. So be it but saying we were a poor team without looking at the actual results and how they went."
Look Canuck, it's Katser. He loves denigrating other counties apart from his own and iirc Clare. And he's the same with clubs he doesnt like within his own county. Ignore and feel compassion for is the best approach.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 2062 - 19/07/2025 15:55:59    2626545

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Look Canuck, it's Katser. He loves denigrating other counties apart from his own and iirc Clare. And he's the same with clubs he doesnt like within his own county. Ignore and feel compassion for is the best approach."
Okay PoolSturgeon and he also seemed to miss we beat the current All-Ireland champions.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3152 - 19/07/2025 19:09:57    2626561

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I pose this question to everyone.... take away the Munster Final (a game which Cork drew) and should have lost if DO'D was capable of slotting over a routine shot and what makes Cork such strong favourites with the bookies and with almost every pundit?

Better still. I will compare Cork's body of championship work against Tipps.

Cork vs Clare - Cork were luck to draw a game in which they led by as much as 12 points. They were ahead by 10 pts with 12 minutes to go when Barrett was sent off. Ahead by 3 pts going into injury time and still should have lost the game.

Tipp vs Clare - an excellent win by Tipp when they as good as HAD to win or be on the verge of elimination. When Clare surged back into the game in the last 10 mins I couldn't see them hanging on but they dug in and showed huge character to see out the game.

VERDICT TIPP

Cork vs Waterford - I will let the Munster gaa website summary do the talking
"Cork won't want much photographic evidence of this workmanlike effort as much as they qualified for a first Munster final in seven years.

The performance was only decent, the result was required as much as it was pretty hairy in the final quarter thanks to a brave Waterford effort led by their record championship scorer Stephen Bennett."

Tipp vs Waterford - A comprehensive 9 point victory by Tipp. Simialr to the Corks game it was relatively close with 10 mints to go but Tipp pushed on with no doubt of victory whereas Cork were the butt of the post from the game being tied up when Bennett should have scored.

VERDICT TIPP

Cork vs Limerick - The Munster final was a pretty good performance and yielded a draw with Limerick. Cork were hugely improved from the 16 point mauling but they still could have easily lost the game. But we cant ignore round robin game vs Limerick....

Tipp vs Limerick - the game where I really took notice of Tipp following on from a generally impressive league. This was a big point and they went toe to toe with the mighty Limerick and looked well capable of competing with one of the top 2 sides in the country.

VERDICT TIPP

Tipp vs Cork - a tough one to fully gauge given Tipp played the entire game with 14. Cork did what they had to do and put the game to bed early in the first half with the goals. Tipp were still impressive given the circumstances and not once downed tools. their work rate and effort throughout was very impressive and they played some good hurling at times too.

VERDICT CORK

Semi Finals
Cork were super impressive but it came with a caveat of beating the 8th or 9th best team in the country. But you can only beat what's put in front of you. and they played some fantastic hurling.

Tipp beat a much better opponent in Kilkenny. They showed huge resilience by withstanding an early storm where Kilkenny went 8 points to 1 ahead. Tipp also dealt with a sending off with 12 mins to go and were behind on the scoreboard

VERDICT TIPP (just)

Tomorrow I see it either being a draw or a Tipp win. the bookies +5 on Tipp is a money printing machine. I don't see who in the Cork HB will be able to curtail the influence of Jake Morris. I think Tipps backs are much more interchangeable and will be able to get on top of Corks attack. It should be very close but the blue and gold will shade it. Here's to a great game ( and to anyone from Cork who takes exception to this... I hate Tipp but you have to call a spade a spade!)

mr305 (Galway) - Posts: 87 - 19/07/2025 22:22:35    2626575

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Replying To Bon:  "It'd be even nicer if people sang the National Anthem to the end too."
The anthem has been sung until the end all year

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2303 - 20/07/2025 00:10:11    2626586

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Good luck to both teams today, hopefully it's a great game. Nothing against Tipp but I'd like to see Patrick Horgan get his well deserved All Ireland medal today.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11715 - 20/07/2025 09:24:35    2626598

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Corks favourites is tag is based on a number of factors
(1) They are the coming team and will learn from the experience of losing last years AIF

(2) Ending Limerick's domination in Munster albeit on pens

(3) Their demolition of Dublin in the semi


(4)Cork are further down the road in terms of progression than a Tipp team that have come from rock bottom last year.


The caveats to those points is the pressure Cork will be under to avoid losing a fifth final since 2005

Also they conceded 2-21 to a Dublin side who were destroyed in the semi , and the feeling that Tipperary have great momentum coming in to the final.



The beauty of sport is it's unpredictability and hot favourites have been beaten before.

Sliothar73 (Limerick) - Posts: 5 - 20/07/2025 09:28:32    2626599

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