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What do people think about these competitions?

Dessie15 (Westmeath) - Posts: 217 - 26/05/2025 16:49:50    2612820

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Replying To Dessie15:  "What do people think about these competitions?"
They're good for giving minor players more games at that level where they would have been out after fewer games in previous years. Difficult for coaches to have a squad that will change after season finishes because players will be too old for the next season so gives them longer to look at players. Giving them more competitive games at intercounty level can only be a good thing.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8023 - 26/05/2025 17:29:24    2612833

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It's more games for lads that aren't eligible to be playing Senior club, so about the best tool available to them to help aid development.

A quick look back at the likes of Louth in '22, with 3 group stage defeats earning 0pts & a -48 score difference, means they probably didn't gain an awful lot from their provincial games. Yet a (small - it's predominantly '23 minors who played 5 games making it to a QF backboning the panel) number of that group now going on to compete in this week's u20 All Ireland Final.

More competitive games, especially at a correctly tiered level, can only be helpful for young lads that age.

Not sure there's much of a question around the benefits of the tiered competitions, so feels a slightly odd question to be honest. A more valid one would be why not have similar at higher age grades, but once you start having lads miss time with Senior Club games it's a very different equation, so lots of potential benefits around the 20s campaign finishing up that much earlier.

TsuDhoNimh (Mayo) - Posts: 5 - 26/05/2025 17:32:38    2612836

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Can only be good for weaker county player development

Historically, the stronger counties are used to having minor panels training for 6 months and matches up to September

More training time at higher level (county rather than club) generally = better players

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1412 - 26/05/2025 17:34:07    2612837

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Replying To Dessie15:  "What do people think about these competitions?"
I'm not sure what to think. They are very under the radar is one thing. What i think might work better is to give a back door first to the A championship. I don't think it's fair to guarantee the provincial runners up an automatic quarter final. Have the provincials as straight knock out and have the back door the way it used be in senior championship and maybe teams beaten twice in a row then go into a B competition. The provincial runners up play the 4 teams that come through the back door. Some years provinces are stronger than others and I would like to see the best teams competing at the end and not eliminated just because the province is strong.

Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 839 - 26/05/2025 17:58:16    2612850

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Great to see an AI Final between Longford and Wicklow.
Hands off our Connacht round robin.
Best thing to happen in years.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2345 - 26/05/2025 18:40:40    2612867

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Replying To Dessie15:  "What do people think about these competitions?"
A development grade the more matches the better.

Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 462 - 26/05/2025 18:49:52    2612870

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I like the new way, gives more games which can only be good, very strange to have Armagh and Derry in their 2 when they where the all Ireland final last year

Liftball (Armagh) - Posts: 33 - 26/05/2025 22:34:59    2612905

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Replying To Liftball:  "I like the new way, gives more games which can only be good, very strange to have Armagh and Derry in their 2 when they where the all Ireland final last year"
Would be 2 nearly different panels this year though

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16017 - 27/05/2025 07:13:12    2612928

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Replying To Liftball:  "I like the new way, gives more games which can only be good, very strange to have Armagh and Derry in their 2 when they where the all Ireland final last year"
I like this new format, and not just because we are doing well in it this year. The more competitive games young players can get at that age has to stand to them as they mature.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1632 - 27/05/2025 10:37:15    2612966

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Replying To Liftball:  "I like the new way, gives more games which can only be good, very strange to have Armagh and Derry in their 2 when they where the all Ireland final last year"
Armagh and Derry started this year in Tier 1, just like everybody else. They then went to Tier 2 because they went out early in the knockout stages of the Ulster Championship.

It's not the case that somebody would have decided at the start of the year "let's put last year's All-Ireland Finalists into Tier 2, instead of giving them a run at the top grade again".

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2887 - 27/05/2025 11:29:39    2612994

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