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Meath Vs Offaly

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Replying To redser123:  "There's a lot of short term memory when it comes to Eoghan Frayne. He is an absolutely lethal shooter with both feet. Any county would gladly welcome him. He's been down on form lately but he's one the least of my concerns. He was our best forward last year and he had another good league this year apart from the Louth game. As meath fans we should be celebrating players like Frayne and not knocking him. He may lack a yard but I've seen him harm a lot of teams with his other attributes."
Only issue I'd have with Frayne is his lack of pace, and under the new rules at this level - you need a turn of foot to beat a man, and you can see how that limits him. Jordan Morris isn't a brilliant player, but he has pace and can beat his man. That counts for a lot under these new rules which he has thrived under.

Frayne is deadly when he get the space he needs, and he can kick off both feet. But is he going to get that space against Dublin? I don't think so. Now he's obviously one of our best forwards, but it doesn't mean you can't criticise him.

Cabbagepatch1667 (Meath) - Posts: 6 - 16/04/2025 13:32:50    2602223

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Replying To cabbage:  "Are you kidding me. He is a foot taller than other midfielders. We all saw the Tailteann cup final against Down."
What has him being a foot taller got to do with my post about him being a good young player with potential but not the saviour of our midfield just yet ?

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1074 - 16/04/2025 13:59:06    2602230

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I see Corey and machon have joined Kilcoo apparently.

Proudroyal (Meath) - Posts: 332 - 16/04/2025 15:36:40    2602256

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Replying To Cabbagepatch1667:  "Only issue I'd have with Frayne is his lack of pace, and under the new rules at this level - you need a turn of foot to beat a man, and you can see how that limits him. Jordan Morris isn't a brilliant player, but he has pace and can beat his man. That counts for a lot under these new rules which he has thrived under.

Frayne is deadly when he get the space he needs, and he can kick off both feet. But is he going to get that space against Dublin? I don't think so. Now he's obviously one of our best forwards, but it doesn't mean you can't criticise him."
Versus the dubs id 100% focus on getting two pointers - entire game plan based around this. Getting even 50% of two pointer shots equates to a success rate of 100% of 1 pointers. Patience around the 40. It was a joy to hear harte whining after the game re the two pointers, this is where we had most success. Play the deck youve been given as boylan would say

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1819 - 16/04/2025 17:02:23    2602279

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Replying To bert09:  "Versus the dubs id 100% focus on getting two pointers - entire game plan based around this. Getting even 50% of two pointer shots equates to a success rate of 100% of 1 pointers. Patience around the 40. It was a joy to hear harte whining after the game re the two pointers, this is where we had most success. Play the deck youve been given as boylan would say"
Midfield battle and winning kickouts has become huge in the new game. By Midfield battle I also mean breaking ball. Coffey is hugely important and it would also be great to get Jones back ASAP.
They were our two most impressive performers prior to their injuries up to round 5 of league.
Costello back in form is also huge. I do however worry about us out of possession and the lack of pressure outside of the arc. This must improve but if we can get the majority of possession perhaps this cab be limited. Out of Croke park is probably helpful and I would really like to see Meath go all out physically and robustly challenge these dubs. Obviously avoid cards but play as much on the edge as possible.

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 16/04/2025 17:41:19    2602295

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Replying To winatallcost:  "Midfield battle and winning kickouts has become huge in the new game. By Midfield battle I also mean breaking ball. Coffey is hugely important and it would also be great to get Jones back ASAP.
They were our two most impressive performers prior to their injuries up to round 5 of league.
Costello back in form is also huge. I do however worry about us out of possession and the lack of pressure outside of the arc. This must improve but if we can get the majority of possession perhaps this cab be limited. Out of Croke park is probably helpful and I would really like to see Meath go all out physically and robustly challenge these dubs. Obviously avoid cards but play as much on the edge as possible."
100% we were flying at midfield, winning the dirty ball and gaining primary possession. Easier said than done but if we can do this we are in with a fair shout. Im my view the goalkeeper and freetaker situation has been addressed sufficiently and is worth at least 5-6 points plus a game. Get the heads in the right place (like the Roscommon game) and crowd behind the team and we should put up a decent battle.

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1819 - 16/04/2025 21:07:16    2602323

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Replying To kingofclubs:  "And saying that Menton has always struggled against Dublin ? Last time Menton played against Dublin in 2022 he marked Fenton and scored 0-3 of Meath's total of 1-14 and held Fenton scoreless."
How did the match end up . You're going to hang your hat on that are you? He also scored 0-02 but that's a bye the bye.

Seem to remember it was 1-27 to 1-14, Harry Hogan couldn't keep the ball kicked out to Dublin in the first half, it kept coming back towards him. Think Dublin scored 1-17 or more in that first half.. but yeah menton keeping Fenton scoreless is all that matters? What did McCarthy and Lahiff score..

2023 and 2024 Menton wasn't involved
2022 1-27 to 1-14.. Fenton 0-00 Menton 0-02
2021 2-16 to 1-13.. Fenton 0-01 menton 0-00
2020 3-21 to 0-09.. Fenton 0-00 Menton 0-01
2019 1-17 to 0-04..Fenton 0-01 Menton 0-01
2018 and 2017 knocked out by Longford and Kildare so didn't play Dublin
2016 Menton wasn't involved
2015 lost to Westmeath
2014 Menton was playing corner back and Fenton wasn't starting for Dublin

So the last four times Bryan has faced Dublin we've been hammered, lost by a combined 56 points, an average of 14 points a game…. But yeah… Fenton was held scoreless the last time and that's what we're going use to say he hasn't struggled mightily against the Dubs, when the facts and figures show a very different story.

Bryan has done Meath a massive service but he's 34 and the legs are gone. The ground is firming up and it's not going to get any easier. We've been cleaned out at midfield for games against the better teams (Westmeath, Monaghan and Louth) and broke about even v Offaly, maybe shaded it.

If you wanna come at me maybe check some things out first and look at the results, facts and figures. They're a good guide as to how games actually go as a whole.

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1981 - 17/04/2025 01:18:40    2602353

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I would be surprised if we are within 15 points come the final whistle and I'm not trying to knock us down but the signs are there. Injuries have knocked the progress. The Dubs conditioning is still years down the road in front of us even if they haven't been great this year. They always use the Meath game as their engine starter/panel trimmer.

If Robbie can get us into a system where we make them fight for every score that would be a sign of development in my eyes as for more than a decade they could score without a meathman putting a hand on them at will. I dont want to hear that we need to hit them hard and get into them as we have tried and failed at that and football is not about that anymore. You need brains these days.

We wont have our best 15 due to the injuries but if we break up their set plays(top teams all operate like a basketball team now), then we can give them a game but being realistic we don't have the forwards or bench to hurt them in possession.

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 651 - 17/04/2025 07:21:06    2602360

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Surprised at the negativity about the Offaly win.
No matter what turning a 10 point deficit into a 7 point lead in the second half was a great second half performance.

GreenMan1987 (Meath) - Posts: 59 - 17/04/2025 21:54:47    2602502

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Replying To GreenMan1987:  "Surprised at the negativity about the Offaly win.
No matter what turning a 10 point deficit into a 7 point lead in the second half was a great second half performance."
Agreed, any win against decent side like Offaly would have been good but to turn it around as they did was commendable

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1507 - 18/04/2025 10:32:45    2602545

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It's the usual lads that look for the negative side.to everything. Alot of lads in here actually want Meath to fail so they can come on, hammer the current set up and then have no solutions to fix all the problems. Sure there's proof in the pudding, 17 point swing there in a game we were losing at home by 10 at halftime, players.could have easily hid but they didn't..... and barely a peep out of lads on here.

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 972 - 19/04/2025 13:09:40    2602748

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Just thinking seeing as this is meaths first time in 50 years to play dublin out if croke park in championship, are we going to create a meath end in portlaoise? I presume dublin fans will take over the road /town end and make a mini hill 16 ? Will Meath fans make the other end a canal end type terrace? I think meath fans need to irganise this

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 817 - 20/04/2025 00:32:37    2602942

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "It's the usual lads that look for the negative side.to everything. Alot of lads in here actually want Meath to fail so they can come on, hammer the current set up and then have no solutions to fix all the problems. Sure there's proof in the pudding, 17 point swing there in a game we were losing at home by 10 at halftime, players.could have easily hid but they didn't..... and barely a peep out of lads on here."
Forums like these feed off and are built for negativeity. Usually if it is gone silent Meath have done something right. I have no doubt some do be disappointed when Meath actually win a game.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 1011 - 20/04/2025 13:35:31    2603037

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Replying To dickie10:  "Just thinking seeing as this is meaths first time in 50 years to play dublin out if croke park in championship, are we going to create a meath end in portlaoise? I presume dublin fans will take over the road /town end and make a mini hill 16 ? Will Meath fans make the other end a canal end type terrace? I think meath fans need to irganise this"
No point in whinging about the advantages dublin get by playing in Croke park if we don't now capitalise on having dublin out if Croke park. We seen how having a huge vociferous support can swing a result in Mullingar this year we basically made it a home game, there's only a handful of counties in Ireland capable of doing that and I think we should use it to our advantage on Sunday . We should make the far terrace a full bank of green and gold

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 817 - 20/04/2025 23:08:26    2603265

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