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If it goes ahead in Corrigan it will be full with Armagh season ticket holders . They are great travellers and love away games.

19616609 (Louth) - Posts: 1667 - 09/03/2025 01:10:39    2595486

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Antrim minor footballers played Derry yesterday in the first round of the Ulster minor league. You'd struggle to see any references to the game on the Antrim social media pages. But they plenty of coverage for their u20 hurlers. Antrims a hurling county. The footballer are treating like second class citizens.

latefortraining (Monaghan) - Posts: 125 - 09/03/2025 09:05:07    2595496

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "What's the big fundamental difference between this and 'Newbridge or nowhere' then? Or do you just want fair rules for the teams you watch and te hell with the rest, yeah?"
The fundamental difference is that both Kildare and Mayo played in division 1 in 2018 and were of a similar standard.

On this occasion we have the All Ireland champions going up against a team sitting close to the bottom of division 3 who have not come close to challenging for provincial honours in decades.

Therefore I don't see issue with having it in Corrigan Park. Just play it and get it over with. Armagh's next game will be against a team better equipped to beat them and will generate a lot more neutral interest.

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 924 - 09/03/2025 10:29:58    2595505

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Replying To Wally:  "The fundamental difference is that both Kildare and Mayo played in division 1 in 2018 and were of a similar standard.

On this occasion we have the All Ireland champions going up against a team sitting close to the bottom of division 3 who have not come close to challenging for provincial honours in decades.

Therefore I don't see issue with having it in Corrigan Park. Just play it and get it over with. Armagh's next game will be against a team better equipped to beat them and will generate a lot more neutral interest."
12,000 less people paying in, added to no McKenna Cup is obviously the UC issue.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2116 - 09/03/2025 13:47:00    2595534

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Replying To Wally:  "The fundamental difference is that both Kildare and Mayo played in division 1 in 2018 and were of a similar standard.

On this occasion we have the All Ireland champions going up against a team sitting close to the bottom of division 3 who have not come close to challenging for provincial honours in decades.

Therefore I don't see issue with having it in Corrigan Park. Just play it and get it over with. Armagh's next game will be against a team better equipped to beat them and will generate a lot more neutral interest."
That's not a fundamental difference. The standard of competition doesn't determine what the rules should be. Just tell the truth, you're on here to talk down your nose at Antrim again. Every time they're brought up on here you crawl out of the woodwork to pop a squat directly above us with your condescending waffle. You probably think you live in the home of Ulster up there with that talk. Something must have inspired it all. Antrim may well be dark horses in Ulster football but at least we have been competitive at provincial level while also flying the flag for Ulster hurling. But the county deserves better than "get it over with" and "no neutral interest" in the same game you claim to love no doubt. If that's all you have to say then why even bother sharing it.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2525 - 09/03/2025 15:40:51    2595556

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "You come up and live on the Shankill, Sandy Row or East Belfast with your accent.....see how long you last."
Loyalists don't usually have a problem with southerners. Southerners generally have never been supportive to the republican cause.

PattyONeill (Derry) - Posts: 259 - 09/03/2025 20:12:08    2595620

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Replying To PattyONeill:  "Loyalists don't usually have a problem with southerners. Southerners generally have never been supportive to the republican cause."
Very true sadly. We have fought a battle on our own since 1921.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9805 - 09/03/2025 22:46:49    2595640

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Replying To PattyONeill:  "Loyalists don't usually have a problem with southerners. Southerners generally have never been supportive to the republican cause."
Murdering Gardai and robbing banks kinda turns people off right enough.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2116 - 09/03/2025 23:45:50    2595644

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Very true sadly. We have fought a battle on our own since 1921."
Yet a few years ago when two Antrim clubs were in an All Ireland final you were off supporting a British team in Scotland....

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1523 - 10/03/2025 09:28:14    2595664

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What's the latest ?
Fixed for Newry, Antrim say they won't turn up.
Anyone talking to anyone behind the scenes?

If Antrim don't turn up are all their County teams banned for a year or just their senior football team?

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2116 - 10/03/2025 11:56:56    2595722

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If the rule is first drawn out of the hat gets to play at home, then there should be no discussion. It shouldn't matter if Corrigan Park is 4,000 or 40,000 capacity. If Antrim can play their leagues games there, why can't they play their championship games there? Health & safety concerns apply to the league as well as championship so if it has a health & safety cert for 4,000 and only 4,000 tickets are made available, what is the issue, apart from the obvious monetary one, but that is not Antrim's concern.

county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1120 - 10/03/2025 12:15:54    2595733

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "What's the latest ?
Fixed for Newry, Antrim say they won't turn up.
Anyone talking to anyone behind the scenes?

If Antrim don't turn up are all their County teams banned for a year or just their senior football team?"
The whole county will be held in captivity and given 20 lashings for every word of complaint.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2525 - 10/03/2025 14:55:06    2595778

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Replying To county man:  "If the rule is first drawn out of the hat gets to play at home, then there should be no discussion. It shouldn't matter if Corrigan Park is 4,000 or 40,000 capacity. If Antrim can play their leagues games there, why can't they play their championship games there? Health & safety concerns apply to the league as well as championship so if it has a health & safety cert for 4,000 and only 4,000 tickets are made available, what is the issue, apart from the obvious monetary one, but that is not Antrim's concern."
I'd expect there's a clause in the Competition regulations about Ground being deemed suitable by the UC.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2116 - 10/03/2025 15:18:22    2595782

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Replying To PattyONeill:  "Loyalists don't usually have a problem with southerners. Southerners generally have never been supportive to the republican cause."
I can only speak for my own county but that is absolutely not the case in Wexford.

Gardai would be very busy here on section 30s.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3421 - 10/03/2025 15:37:12    2595788

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Replying To county man:  "If the rule is first drawn out of the hat gets to play at home, then there should be no discussion. It shouldn't matter if Corrigan Park is 4,000 or 40,000 capacity. If Antrim can play their leagues games there, why can't they play their championship games there? Health & safety concerns apply to the league as well as championship so if it has a health & safety cert for 4,000 and only 4,000 tickets are made available, what is the issue, apart from the obvious monetary one, but that is not Antrim's concern."
But the rule isn't that first drawn gets to play at home.

For example, in Leinster SFC this year, we in Wexford will play Laois in the first round. Laois were first actually first out of the hat as the draw was made, but the match will be played in Wexford, because last time we played them in the championship, it was in Portlaoise.

It's more custom & practice rather than rule that venues alternate on a home & away basis whenever counties are due to meet. And that's only IF the so-called 'home' county has a suitable venue.

Antrim are not the only ones to suffer in this regard. Louth haven't had a proper 'home' championship tie in many years, even for all the ones they were due to have home advantage. They nominate Pairc Tailteann in Navan as their home venue instead, and just get on with it.

There's a rule that if the 'home' county is to actually have home advantage, they need to provide a venue capable of holding something like 80% of what the attendance would be expected to be if capacity was no issue. That means that if even 6,000 people wanted to attend Antrim v Armagh, Corrigan Park doesn't meet that stipulation, because 80% of 6,000 is 4,800 and Corrigan Park holds less than 4,000.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2741 - 10/03/2025 15:51:57    2595790

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