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Has Other Sports Stole A March On Gaa In Relation To PR Work

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Tomsmith Cavan here
After all the hype about the 6 nations and gran slam I just wonder has the Gaa fallen down on its PR coverage . If you take some other sports other than Gaa some of these sports is played in Towns in Ireland by a certain section of people in them Towns who know how to market its Sports .
The Gaa has been a Sport for all woman and men who have a connections with the area , but is falling down on the PR of our great sport .

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 4008 - 25/02/2025 10:16:24    2593101

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith Cavan here
After all the hype about the 6 nations and gran slam I just wonder has the Gaa fallen down on its PR coverage . If you take some other sports other than Gaa some of these sports is played in Towns in Ireland by a certain section of people in them Towns who know how to market its Sports .
The Gaa has been a Sport for all woman and men who have a connections with the area , but is falling down on the PR of our great sport ."
Well the Dublin Media "hype machine" goes into overdrive every year at 6 nations time, but its particularly bad this year because of the second coming of Christ................ also known as "Sam Prendergod". The way the media are blowing smoke up a young fella is sickening.

Down Munster way its actually the best thing that could happen for the GAA however.

A lot of people in Limerick and Cork are getting very disillusioned with Rugby. Rugby was always a working mans game in Limerick, but people are really getting sick of it and the talk of it. So while the Dublin media can laud Leinster and Irish Rugby successes club Rugby is dying a death in Munster and Ulster especially.

Most kids now know their is no longer any realistic pathway for them to get to play Rugby at the highest level if your not from Leinster, but they can look to GAA superstars in their local parishs/clubs and can believe that they someday play at the highest level. This only be good for the GAA

LimerickandProud (Limerick) - Posts: 110 - 25/02/2025 16:28:44    2593195

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Replying To LimerickandProud:  "Well the Dublin Media "hype machine" goes into overdrive every year at 6 nations time, but its particularly bad this year because of the second coming of Christ................ also known as "Sam Prendergod". The way the media are blowing smoke up a young fella is sickening.

Down Munster way its actually the best thing that could happen for the GAA however.

A lot of people in Limerick and Cork are getting very disillusioned with Rugby. Rugby was always a working mans game in Limerick, but people are really getting sick of it and the talk of it. So while the Dublin media can laud Leinster and Irish Rugby successes club Rugby is dying a death in Munster and Ulster especially.

Most kids now know their is no longer any realistic pathway for them to get to play Rugby at the highest level if your not from Leinster, but they can look to GAA superstars in their local parishs/clubs and can believe that they someday play at the highest level. This only be good for the GAA"
Lot of mistruths and falsehoods here.
Dont see that in limerick and im around the citys rugby grounds on very regular basis
99% of kids dont think about the game like that anyway and they dont see the make up of irish rugby team for a reason to not play the sport any more

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3727 - 25/02/2025 18:27:28    2593211

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Hard to positively promote gaelic football at the minute

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 140 - 25/02/2025 19:16:00    2593222

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League of Ireland soccer is suddenly cool. Has been since Covid when it seemed to turn a corner, not sure why but it has become a thing to do and to be seen at lately. Who'd have ever thought they'd see Jonny Sexton turning up in Tallaght for a match with a Rovers scarf on him. Smaller stadiums than GAA but they're usually all full now each Friday night and it's a hard ticket to get sometimes which only adds to the cache and the place to be.

Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1474 - 25/02/2025 20:00:02    2593225

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Replying To boxtyburgerbuns:  "Hard to positively promote gaelic football at the minute"
Speak for Leitrim if you want, lots of appetite all over Ireland.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2219 - 25/02/2025 20:34:30    2593231

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith Cavan here
After all the hype about the 6 nations and gran slam I just wonder has the Gaa fallen down on its PR coverage . If you take some other sports other than Gaa some of these sports is played in Towns in Ireland by a certain section of people in them Towns who know how to market its Sports .
The Gaa has been a Sport for all woman and men who have a connections with the area , but is falling down on the PR of our great sport ."
Yes, Tomsmith
I think you're money on the head. The GAA can do so much more to promote the games. For a start, the fact I (living in Australia) can't get my hands on a Kildare game for love nor money, is a disaster. Even the likes of the Sunday Game, hardly care less about lower tiers.
Other sports have moved with the times and social media to target kids, give them access to their heroes.. if an inter county footballer tried to have a bit of online presence, he's shamed.

Sweetspot (Kildare) - Posts: 328 - 25/02/2025 21:41:24    2593240

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Replying To LimerickandProud:  "Well the Dublin Media "hype machine" goes into overdrive every year at 6 nations time, but its particularly bad this year because of the second coming of Christ................ also known as "Sam Prendergod". The way the media are blowing smoke up a young fella is sickening.

Down Munster way its actually the best thing that could happen for the GAA however.

A lot of people in Limerick and Cork are getting very disillusioned with Rugby. Rugby was always a working mans game in Limerick, but people are really getting sick of it and the talk of it. So while the Dublin media can laud Leinster and Irish Rugby successes club Rugby is dying a death in Munster and Ulster especially.

Most kids now know their is no longer any realistic pathway for them to get to play Rugby at the highest level if your not from Leinster, but they can look to GAA superstars in their local parishs/clubs and can believe that they someday play at the highest level. This only be good for the GAA"
Well rugby dominates pretty much one particular area in Dublin. Leinster domination is pretty much affecting other provinces and ironically Ireland itself. But Rugby in Dublin was never a 'working class' game its pretty much an international sport and spectacle. You do have to make sure the GAA is offering something special and in football they ate up against it.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4953 - 26/02/2025 12:56:42    2593328

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Replying To Sweetspot:  "Yes, Tomsmith
I think you're money on the head. The GAA can do so much more to promote the games. For a start, the fact I (living in Australia) can't get my hands on a Kildare game for love nor money, is a disaster. Even the likes of the Sunday Game, hardly care less about lower tiers.
Other sports have moved with the times and social media to target kids, give them access to their heroes.. if an inter county footballer tried to have a bit of online presence, he's shamed."
Kildare football is where it is for a good reason.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2164 - 26/02/2025 13:28:03    2593334

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Tomsmith Cavan here
After all the hype about the 6 nations and gran slam I just wonder has the Gaa fallen down on its PR coverage . If you take some other sports other than Gaa some of these sports is played in Towns in Ireland by a certain section of people in them Towns who know how to market its Sports .
The Gaa has been a Sport for all woman and men who have a connections with the area , but is falling down on the PR of our great sport ."
No, I don't think that would be accurate, as it makes it sound like the GAA aren't doing enough at the minute, which isn't the case. Interest in Rugby in Ireland has definitely grown in the last 15 - 20 years due to the unprecedented success of the Ireland team and the ability of Irish Provinces to compete at European level since the Heineken/Champions Cup.

GAA is still parish based across the whole Country, while Rugby is still predominantly private school or semi-private schools based, although IRFU is working to have clubs in all Counties. Rugby still isn't as accessible around the whole Country as GAA, in terms of participation number of young people the GAA is miles ahead of Rugby and most likely always will be in terms of grass roots numbers.

Its not that Rugby is a threat, I don't think they are fighting over players or fans, I think fans can still enjoy both

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1278 - 26/02/2025 13:43:42    2593342

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Replying To Sweetspot:  "Yes, Tomsmith
I think you're money on the head. The GAA can do so much more to promote the games. For a start, the fact I (living in Australia) can't get my hands on a Kildare game for love nor money, is a disaster. Even the likes of the Sunday Game, hardly care less about lower tiers.
Other sports have moved with the times and social media to target kids, give them access to their heroes.. if an inter county footballer tried to have a bit of online presence, he's shamed."
Have to agree the treatment of the lower tiers by the GAA and also their complicity with t.v. to ignore these tiers. No disrespect but look at the cover soccer gives to the women's game and the gulf between it and men's is way greater than our tiers.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2961 - 26/02/2025 14:40:29    2593351

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I don't watch rugby or soccer although I remember playing tag rugby in primary school. I also recall beating a Protestant school in soccer even though we never played a real game of soccer before. I scored one of the goals.
I actually can't think of a topic more uninteresting than professional soccer.

PattyONeill (Derry) - Posts: 257 - 26/02/2025 22:37:39    2593419

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Replying To Commodore:  "No, I don't think that would be accurate, as it makes it sound like the GAA aren't doing enough at the minute, which isn't the case. Interest in Rugby in Ireland has definitely grown in the last 15 - 20 years due to the unprecedented success of the Ireland team and the ability of Irish Provinces to compete at European level since the Heineken/Champions Cup.

GAA is still parish based across the whole Country, while Rugby is still predominantly private school or semi-private schools based, although IRFU is working to have clubs in all Counties. Rugby still isn't as accessible around the whole Country as GAA, in terms of participation number of young people the GAA is miles ahead of Rugby and most likely always will be in terms of grass roots numbers.

Its not that Rugby is a threat, I don't think they are fighting over players or fans, I think fans can still enjoy both"
Rugby isnt predomiantly private school based. Across all the clubs in the coubrry tye overwhelming majority of people who are nembers, playing or spectators or coacges did not or do not attend fee paying schools

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3727 - 27/02/2025 08:49:23    2593431

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Rugby isnt predomiantly private school based. Across all the clubs in the coubrry tye overwhelming majority of people who are nembers, playing or spectators or coacges did not or do not attend fee paying schools"
I disagree, I think if you were to pull the stats for Irish Rugby players who play for the major clubs, Provinces or Ireland, the majority attended private or semi-private schools.

Then look at Schools Rugby competitions (See sample below), the majority are private or semi-privates schools.

Leinster Schools Rugby Senior league
- Blackrock College
- Belvedere College
- Castleknock College
- St Mary's College, Dublin
- Terenure College
- St Michael's College, Dublin
- Newbridge College
- Wesley College
- St Gerards School, Bray
- The Kings Hospital
- Clongowes Wood College
- Gonzaga College
- C.B.C Monkstown
- Kilkenny College
- Cistercian College, Roscrea
- St Fintan's High School - Dublin
- Temple Carrig School

Munster Schools Rugby Senior Cup
- Presentation Brothers College, Cork
- Christian Brothers College, Cork
- Rockwell College, Cashel
- Crescent College, Limerick
- St Mulchin's College, Limerick
- Limerick CBS
- The Abbey, Tipperary
- Castletroy College, Limerick
- Glenstal Abbey, Limerick

Maybe Munster has some exceptions, but elsewhere in Ireland in terms of participation, Rugby has been largely driven from private or semi-private schools. Rugby has been for generations one of the sports of British upper class, and that was extended across the Colonial domains via the more exclusive schools etc.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1278 - 27/02/2025 10:28:50    2593447

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Replying To Canuck:  "Have to agree the treatment of the lower tiers by the GAA and also their complicity with t.v. to ignore these tiers. No disrespect but look at the cover soccer gives to the women's game and the gulf between it and men's is way greater than our tiers."
I signed up on HS to promote and defend the weaker counties but nothing positive has changed. The suits in Croke Park are responsible for all things within the gaa.

The county boards are responsible for all things including performances of their respective counties, full stop.

Its shameful to see how one or two counties are neglected the same few counties appear to have a non function PR system, at same time. There appears to be no connect between the CB and the local public. There are more important things than trying to keep the finances in the black. Loosen the purse strings and spend wisely.

Niall Carew stayed the full term of 5 years. He didn't get us out of Div.4, but he left us with our self respect, did he not.?

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3120 - 27/02/2025 10:37:43    2593450

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we are in the dark ages when it comes to promoting our game, no mid week talk show or previews, only for the podcasts there would be a mention of it.
it baffles me why any of the major sport wear or boot manufactures haven't done an advertising campaign with the likes of clifford, walsh , murphy or mcmanus.
imagine a nike or adidas add on tv like they do before the soccer world cup , with the elite gaa players ,
the average irish 12 year old could tell you what jersey the Egyptian Mo Salaha wears and his stats for the season. but would struggle to tell you what club Ciaran Kilkenny plays for .

latefortraining (Monaghan) - Posts: 123 - 27/02/2025 10:41:30    2593452

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Speak for Leitrim if you want, lots of appetite all over Ireland."
Did I say there was no appetite? I said there was nothing positive about the game in its current form.

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 140 - 27/02/2025 11:51:24    2593473

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Replying To Commodore:  "No, I don't think that would be accurate, as it makes it sound like the GAA aren't doing enough at the minute, which isn't the case. Interest in Rugby in Ireland has definitely grown in the last 15 - 20 years due to the unprecedented success of the Ireland team and the ability of Irish Provinces to compete at European level since the Heineken/Champions Cup.

GAA is still parish based across the whole Country, while Rugby is still predominantly private school or semi-private schools based, although IRFU is working to have clubs in all Counties. Rugby still isn't as accessible around the whole Country as GAA, in terms of participation number of young people the GAA is miles ahead of Rugby and most likely always will be in terms of grass roots numbers.

Its not that Rugby is a threat, I don't think they are fighting over players or fans, I think fans can still enjoy both"
I think rugby is popular because it is seen as being a place to be seen by a new phenomenon of social media influencers who bombard social media with pics of themselves enjoying the atmosphere and not a notion what a rugby ball is even if it hit them in the face. That wasn't a thing 20 years ago.

A full Lansdown Road is a great pic opportunity compared to what is frequently a half or three quarter empty Croke Park for games.

Look at politicians tripping over themselves to be seen at rugby games too, that's another new phenomenon. The captains and the kings will always stay together, and rugby is where that is at.

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 140 - 27/02/2025 11:55:58    2593475

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Replying To latefortraining:  "we are in the dark ages when it comes to promoting our game, no mid week talk show or previews, only for the podcasts there would be a mention of it.
it baffles me why any of the major sport wear or boot manufactures haven't done an advertising campaign with the likes of clifford, walsh , murphy or mcmanus.
imagine a nike or adidas add on tv like they do before the soccer world cup , with the elite gaa players ,
the average irish 12 year old could tell you what jersey the Egyptian Mo Salaha wears and his stats for the season. but would struggle to tell you what club Ciaran Kilkenny plays for ."
Because the manufacturers dont see many of these guys as big enough to be faces of these campaigns. The companies can have soccer and rugby players and use them in campaigns abroad. In ways the gaa players wont have any relevance.v

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3727 - 27/02/2025 12:39:42    2593486

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Replying To Commodore:  "I disagree, I think if you were to pull the stats for Irish Rugby players who play for the major clubs, Provinces or Ireland, the majority attended private or semi-private schools.

Then look at Schools Rugby competitions (See sample below), the majority are private or semi-privates schools.

Leinster Schools Rugby Senior league
- Blackrock College
- Belvedere College
- Castleknock College
- St Mary's College, Dublin
- Terenure College
- St Michael's College, Dublin
- Newbridge College
- Wesley College
- St Gerards School, Bray
- The Kings Hospital
- Clongowes Wood College
- Gonzaga College
- C.B.C Monkstown
- Kilkenny College
- Cistercian College, Roscrea
- St Fintan's High School - Dublin
- Temple Carrig School

Munster Schools Rugby Senior Cup
- Presentation Brothers College, Cork
- Christian Brothers College, Cork
- Rockwell College, Cashel
- Crescent College, Limerick
- St Mulchin's College, Limerick
- Limerick CBS
- The Abbey, Tipperary
- Castletroy College, Limerick
- Glenstal Abbey, Limerick

Maybe Munster has some exceptions, but elsewhere in Ireland in terms of participation, Rugby has been largely driven from private or semi-private schools. Rugby has been for generations one of the sports of British upper class, and that was extended across the Colonial domains via the more exclusive schools etc."
Well if the blazer fits- wear it

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2164 - 27/02/2025 13:21:47    2593497

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