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3V1 After Galway Red/Black Card(S)

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Replying To Commodore:  "Maybe if the other team has a man sent off, your team only is required to keep two back or two up?

Seems fairer"
Certainly fairer.

In the old days (pre-2000) a red card used to have a free man in defence or attack but not both.

I think an option would be to have to leave 3 back when attacking but allow the team to leave just 2 up when defending that way the red card would blunt your attacking abilities but not lead to a massive blow out which would happen where it ends up being 12 v 10 or 9 in the Galway situation. The team with 15 would have an added incentive to move the ball forward quickly to where the extra man was.

brianb (Kildare) - Posts: 398 - 26/02/2025 09:22:39    2593282

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Look at the intent of the 3v3 rule - it's to create space inside the attacking half ie a 11v11 or in some cases a 12v11. Having one team be able to bring an extra player forward or back - or 2 players - breaks this as suddenly it will be a 13 or 14 v 11 - and what if one team has 3 players off the field it's going to be back to a 15 man mass defence which is really what the rule wanted to get rid of.
Letting the team with the red/black card keep less players up/back is probably the "best" solution - it lets the same amount of players in the action half while it also doesn't ruin the 14/13 man teams defensive capabilities, and it doesn't totally break the 3v3 rule - because it's what is happening in the 11v11 half that matters not the 3v3 half.

On the other side, how many games have you seen "ruined" or totally flipped by a red card, borderline or totally justified? Tons I'd wager. In the Galway Donegal game can anyone honestly say that Donegal would have beaten Galway if Galway had to keep 3 up at all times too?

systematic (Galway) - Posts: 129 - 26/02/2025 12:02:44    2593317

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A red card in most team ball sports is pretty much a handicap but that is what its meant to do. If a player persitently gets red carded he is pretty much useless to a team and a liability. And on wrong calls, refs are only human they make mistakes no rules are going to correct human error in real time. Its lousy when it happens to your team but it happens.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4953 - 26/02/2025 12:51:47    2593325

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It just seems if you are reduced to 14, you should still have to keep 3 up and 3 back. The team with 15 players can use the extra man in defence and attack.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8546 - 26/02/2025 17:31:50    2593385

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The easiest solution is to keep the 3 up rule all the time
When you get a man sent off for a card - only the team down a man can use their keeper in attack.

The team with the numerical advantage has to keep their keeper in their own half.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1231 - 27/02/2025 17:23:25    2593543

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "The easiest solution is to keep the 3 up rule all the time
When you get a man sent off for a card - only the team down a man can use their keeper in attack.

The team with the numerical advantage has to keep their keeper in their own half."
Should that be keep 3 up and 3 back?

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8546 - 27/02/2025 17:49:24    2593544

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