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Replying To Viking66:  "It's definitely the best League structure they have had in years. Really like the 2 up 2 down element also"
I like but think the top team in 1B should have a path to the league title. I don't think they have. It would create more games in a tight schedule but maybe they should be in and instead of the fourth place team in 1A. Correct me if wrong.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2928 - 28/01/2025 14:31:57    2588180

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Replying To legendzxix:  "The big sell for the top 9 is that they should only be out of 1A for no more than a year. Divisions of 7 and 2 up/down has delivered that. The league has possibly found a long-term format."
I'm hoping they stay with it

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14518 - 28/01/2025 14:48:20    2588187

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Replying To Canuck:  "I like but think the top team in 1B should have a path to the league title. I don't think they have. It would create more games in a tight schedule but maybe they should be in and instead of the fourth place team in 1A. Correct me if wrong."
Why? In other sports the reward for winning the 2nd tier is promotion to the top tier. Why should it be any different for hurling Canuck? You can't be top tier champions if you didn't even play most of the top tier teams.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14518 - 28/01/2025 14:50:01    2588188

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Replying To Viking66:  "Why? In other sports the reward for winning the 2nd tier is promotion to the top tier. Why should it be any different for hurling Canuck? You can't be top tier champions if you didn't even play most of the top tier teams."
Thankfully there is no room in the schedule! No way it can be considered.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8488 - 28/01/2025 15:05:33    2588193

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Think it's straight finals this year with top 2 in finals..groups look reasonable with great incentive to avoid relegation and also promotion for top 2 in divisions..huge oppurtunity lost this weekend with no hurling on tv..four football been shown..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2443 - 28/01/2025 16:19:53    2588216

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Replying To Canuck:  "I like but think the top team in 1B should have a path to the league title. I don't think they have. It would create more games in a tight schedule but maybe they should be in and instead of the fourth place team in 1A. Correct me if wrong."
I don't agree, in the same way as I never agreed with the Joe McDonagh finalists getting into the All Ireland Preliminary quarter Finals when, there are far better teams finishing 4th in Munster and 4th the Leinster Championships and they are out.

LimerickandProud (Limerick) - Posts: 109 - 28/01/2025 16:37:42    2588222

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Think it's straight finals this year with top 2 in finals..groups look reasonable with great incentive to avoid relegation and also promotion for top 2 in divisions..huge oppurtunity lost this weekend with no hurling on tv..four football been shown.."
Gonna be a slow Sunday

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2131 - 28/01/2025 17:28:09    2588228

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Replying To LimerickandProud:  "I don't agree, in the same way as I never agreed with the Joe McDonagh finalists getting into the All Ireland Preliminary quarter Finals when, there are far better teams finishing 4th in Munster and 4th the Leinster Championships and they are out."
Okay point made. I totally agree about the All Ireland series. The winner of 1B will be one of the top teams. Let's see how that goes next year when it is one of the big boys.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2928 - 28/01/2025 19:32:34    2588255

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Replying To Canuck:  "Okay point made. I totally agree about the All Ireland series. The winner of 1B will be one of the top teams. Let's see how that goes next year when it is one of the big boys."
But one of the "big boys" will be top of 1B next year only by virtue of being one of the bad boys in 1A this year.

I agree myself that 1B teams shouldn't compete for the League title proper. First and second in 1A playing a straight final against each other is by far the best way to do it.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2681 - 28/01/2025 20:41:22    2588262

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "But one of the "big boys" will be top of 1B next year only by virtue of being one of the bad boys in 1A this year.

I agree myself that 1B teams shouldn't compete for the League title proper. First and second in 1A playing a straight final against each other is by far the best way to do it."
Well certainly calendar wise. Teams won't fret too much because 1B might be a place to re-tool with decent enough opposition and less pressure. Establishing a winning way can be a good thing.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2928 - 28/01/2025 22:09:19    2588278

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Replying To Canuck:  "Okay point made. I totally agree about the All Ireland series. The winner of 1B will be one of the top teams. Let's see how that goes next year when it is one of the big boys."
It's not likely to be 1 of the big boys though. The 4 best teams in Ireland currently are the 4 AI semi finalists of the last 2 years. If I was to place a bet on who will finish 6th and 7th I'd be guessing it will be 2 of the other 3 counties.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14518 - 29/01/2025 06:43:49    2588290

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Replying To Viking66:  "It's not likely to be 1 of the big boys though. The 4 best teams in Ireland currently are the 4 AI semi finalists of the last 2 years. If I was to place a bet on who will finish 6th and 7th I'd be guessing it will be 2 of the other 3 counties."
Do you mean Galway or Cork?

Limerick, Clare Kilkenny are top 3 anyway but Galway were in a semi final in 23 weren't they?

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3322 - 29/01/2025 09:05:00    2588297

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Big result for Down at the weekend and are now in the conversation for division 1 hurling

BaileCrann (Down) - Posts: 61 - 29/01/2025 09:07:00    2588298

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Championship is between Clare, Cork, Limerick.

Cats are only ones likely I think to challenge purely based on muscle memory and they know what it takes.

Then there's Tipp, Galway, Waterford, Dublin, Wexford whose best day would be provincial final i think. Disappointing year for any of them be missing a quarter final.

League will reflect this I think. Always chance that Cats, Galway and maybe Tipp concentrate more on battle hardening a team for coming years. All in situation though where older hands are still key parts of teams and would be greatly missed if retired. Similar to Dublin footballers I suppose.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3351 - 29/01/2025 09:29:49    2588300

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Replying To BaileCrann:  "Big result for Down at the weekend and are now in the conversation for division 1 hurling"
Big result for Down alright. Kerry, Down, Kildare and Meath expected to be the top 4. Finished last year's league in the following order: Down, Kildare, Kerry and Meath. Down and Kerry could probably do with a tough year in 1B.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8488 - 29/01/2025 10:11:13    2588304

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Do you mean Galway or Cork?

Limerick, Clare Kilkenny are top 3 anyway but Galway were in a semi final in 23 weren't they?"
Sorry Doyler meant to change that to last years semi finalists mid post, and forgot then.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14518 - 29/01/2025 13:10:08    2588346

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Replying To LimerickandProud:  "I don't agree, in the same way as I never agreed with the Joe McDonagh finalists getting into the All Ireland Preliminary quarter Finals when, there are far better teams finishing 4th in Munster and 4th the Leinster Championships and they are out."
If you can't finish higher than 4th in a 5 or 6 team group, you deserve to be out.
Otherwise, you could in theory draw 1 game, lose 4-5 matches and still go through on scoring difference.
What is the logic in having so many games to knock out 1 or 2 teams?
What would be better would be a knock-out provincial championship and then 2 x groups of 6 teams. It won't happen though.
Many in Leinster never agreed with relegation in Leinster while Waterford hardly won a match in 3 years but hey, that's where we are.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1798 - 29/01/2025 13:27:35    2588350

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "If you can't finish higher than 4th in a 5 or 6 team group, you deserve to be out.
Otherwise, you could in theory draw 1 game, lose 4-5 matches and still go through on scoring difference.
What is the logic in having so many games to knock out 1 or 2 teams?
What would be better would be a knock-out provincial championship and then 2 x groups of 6 teams. It won't happen though.
Many in Leinster never agreed with relegation in Leinster while Waterford hardly won a match in 3 years but hey, that's where we are."
Tipp haven't won many more than Waterford in that time, if any more.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14518 - 29/01/2025 13:49:54    2588359

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What a pity to see so many inter county hurlers being pulled from college games.would they not be better hurling rather than 2 or 3 hard training sessions this week..only my opinion but it devalues the college competitions..if players are on scholarships how will that work??

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2443 - 29/01/2025 16:27:33    2588389

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Div 1:
Armagh v Tyrone Tyrone by 3
Donegal v Dublin Dublin by 2
Derry v Kerry Draw
Mayo v Galway Mayo by 2

Div 2:
Down v Cork Cork by 3
Monaghan v Westmeath Monaghan by 5
Louth v Roscommon Roscommon by 6
Meath v Cavan Meath by 2

Div 3:
Sligo v Kildare Kildare by 8
Clare v Leitrim Clare by 5
Laois v Offaly Laois by 1
Fermanagh v Antrim Fermanagh by 3

Div 4:
Tipperary v Longford Draw
Waterford v Carlow Carlow by 7
London v Wicklow Wicklow by 5
Limerick v Wexford Limerick by 1

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2678 - 29/01/2025 22:19:20    2588437

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