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I'd hope from looking at Galway today that maybe they had a training session yesterday..they offered nothing apart maybe from
Lohan..I also thought all the new players looked so small..if the 2 goals hadn't been gifted it was as bad a beating Galway ever got..the only thing is they can only improve..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2443 - 26/01/2025 18:40:35    2587750

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Watched the Clare Kilkenny game. Much better conditions than our game, but even so 1st touch was way better on both sides than ours was.
From a Kilkenny point of view Blanchfield did well at 6, Mcdonald was very good also, Mackessey did ok at the start but disappeared as the game went on, Mossey Keown and Eoin Cody did well also. Tallis was solid. Gearoid Dunne was lively when he came on. Only time I remember seeing Drennan was when there was a free. Except towards the end when he mishit a shot/pass straight to Quilligan.
Clare will be delighted, it was pretty much their 10-30 of their panel v Kilkennys 1-20, with a few exceptions. Malone, Reidy, Conroy, were really good, Smyth did well when he came on, as did Donnellan. Rynne did ok too. Cian Galvin also. Thought Leen had a hard time at 3, not sure he's the answer there if Cleary gets injured during championship.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14518 - 26/01/2025 19:41:24    2587764

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "I'd hope from looking at Galway today that maybe they had a training session yesterday..they offered nothing apart maybe from
Lohan..I also thought all the new players looked so small..if the 2 goals hadn't been gifted it was as bad a beating Galway ever got..the only thing is they can only improve.."
When donoghues keeps picking lads from clarinbridge / turloughmore and Thomas' that aren't good enough that's what happens.

BigBàsMan (Galway) - Posts: 88 - 26/01/2025 19:59:56    2587768

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Cork are going to win the all ireland this year full stop ! Talk to you all in 2026 !

Jimbob96 (Wexford) - Posts: 21 - 26/01/2025 21:38:58    2587787

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Replying To Ryanteam:  "Cork vs Limerick next weekend , should give both teams a stern test! Mouthwatering clash."
Agreed. Unfortunately, the Wexford game was a non event. You'd have to fear for Wexford, as I can't see where they can get a win in 1a. Maybe against Galway after their poor showing yesterday?
Saturday evening down the park against Limerick - bring it on...

bloodandbandage (Cork) - Posts: 364 - 27/01/2025 08:43:15    2587828

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Can anyone clarify, with this new league format how many teams go up and down between Div 1A and 1B?

And more importantly from a Carlow perspective, how many go up and down between 1B and Div 2?

TIA

Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1448 - 27/01/2025 11:07:11    2587846

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Replying To bloodandbandage:  "Agreed. Unfortunately, the Wexford game was a non event. You'd have to fear for Wexford, as I can't see where they can get a win in 1a. Maybe against Galway after their poor showing yesterday?
Saturday evening down the park against Limerick - bring it on..."
Suppose it depends on what team Keith picks. Hopefully he will stick with the young lads, they need the experience.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14518 - 27/01/2025 11:10:55    2587847

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Replying To Onion Breath:  "Can anyone clarify, with this new league format how many teams go up and down between Div 1A and 1B?

And more importantly from a Carlow perspective, how many go up and down between 1B and Div 2?

TIA"
2 up 2 down between 1a and 1b. Assume it would be the same across the board?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14518 - 27/01/2025 11:28:40    2587852

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Replying To Onion Breath:  "Can anyone clarify, with this new league format how many teams go up and down between Div 1A and 1B?

And more importantly from a Carlow perspective, how many go up and down between 1B and Div 2?

TIA"
Two teams up and down between each division.

Am already afraid that Wexford will be one of the teams going down!

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2681 - 27/01/2025 11:37:08    2587856

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Watched all the 1A games over the weekend and I have to say Cork really look like they are humming. I know they are up against a young Wexford team with a load of changes and new players etc. but I thought their touch, they way they moved the ball and the pace they are running at, were a class above all other teams that played over the weekend.

I'm a bit anxious about going down to the Pairc on Saturday night as Limerick looked very rusty in their challenge game against Waterford yesterday. They started very sluggish and finished very sluggish and basically did enough in a 10 minute spell in the second half to win. If they start like that against Cork they could get a clipping on Saturday night.

Clare and Kilkenny was a decent spectacle given the time of year and the conditions. Both teams will be happy with their run outs. In fairness it was Clare's second string with a lot of new faces and they started very well. Kilkenny reeled them in and then Clare upped the tempo again in fairness Kilkenny's greater experience won it in the end.

Galway and Tipperary was bad match in terrible conditions. In Fairness to Tipperary I thought they tried to move the ball well and they do look like they have a game plane emerging. An inexperienced Galway were chasing shadows for most of the match but I think this was a very good performance by Tipperary rather than a terrible Galway performance as many are suggesting today.

LimerickandProud (Limerick) - Posts: 109 - 27/01/2025 11:38:02    2587857

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2 promoted. 2 down each division and top two finals.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3351 - 27/01/2025 11:41:16    2587858

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Replying To Viking66:  "Suppose it depends on what team Keith picks. Hopefully he will stick with the young lads, they need the experience."
Definitely Viking, and blooding youth is the way to go. Appreciate, you are currently missing key players, but it would be shame to be relegated after such a gallant effort to get into 1a last year.
I've no doubt ye are probably targeting the Galway and KK games for the points... Long way to go yet

bloodandbandage (Cork) - Posts: 364 - 27/01/2025 12:17:58    2587866

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The 2025 hurling league possibly has the 1 to 35 teams in balanced divisions. 2 of the top 7 will be in 1B next year. 2 of the teams outside the top 14 will be in 1B as well. It will probably balance out over the years. The current table after Round 1 would have Galway, Wexford, Down and Derry in 1B. Obviously early days. Merely highlighting the type of games for year 2 of the new league. It's about time lower counties get at least one or two top level games. There has been too much over protection.
Down learning lessons from getting hockeyed by Galway and Wexford is far more beneficial than countless years playing the same teams outside the top 9.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8488 - 28/01/2025 09:41:32    2588107

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Replying To legendzxix:  "The 2025 hurling league possibly has the 1 to 35 teams in balanced divisions. 2 of the top 7 will be in 1B next year. 2 of the teams outside the top 14 will be in 1B as well. It will probably balance out over the years. The current table after Round 1 would have Galway, Wexford, Down and Derry in 1B. Obviously early days. Merely highlighting the type of games for year 2 of the new league. It's about time lower counties get at least one or two top level games. There has been too much over protection.
Down learning lessons from getting hockeyed by Galway and Wexford is far more beneficial than countless years playing the same teams outside the top 9."
I get your point but having seen close enough to the impact of serial hockeyings at club and the experience of Dublin county seniors over the years - 14 straight defeats two years before Anthony arrived-I am not convinced of their benefits!

The current structure is not bad - although it will inevitably be change, just wait - and it provides more of a balance with 1B a sort of clearing house in which teams from 2 will at least have a hope of avoiding a drop while at same time meeting much better teams.

I think Leinster championship is working well enough at that level. Would love to see your own county in Munster rather than Leinster if and when they get promotion to Senior.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3351 - 28/01/2025 10:24:46    2588118

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "I get your point but having seen close enough to the impact of serial hockeyings at club and the experience of Dublin county seniors over the years - 14 straight defeats two years before Anthony arrived-I am not convinced of their benefits!

The current structure is not bad - although it will inevitably be change, just wait - and it provides more of a balance with 1B a sort of clearing house in which teams from 2 will at least have a hope of avoiding a drop while at same time meeting much better teams.

I think Leinster championship is working well enough at that level. Would love to see your own county in Munster rather than Leinster if and when they get promotion to Senior."
Kerry will go into Munster if they ever happen to win the McDonagh. It was agreed a few years ago that the McDonagh winner determines which province has 6 teams. Whoever finishes 6th in the 6 team province will be relegated.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8488 - 28/01/2025 10:49:47    2588123

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Replying To bloodandbandage:  "Agreed. Unfortunately, the Wexford game was a non event. You'd have to fear for Wexford, as I can't see where they can get a win in 1a. Maybe against Galway after their poor showing yesterday?
Saturday evening down the park against Limerick - bring it on..."
To be fair most of us anticipated we'd be under pressure but the work rate on Saturday was most concerning, albeit Cork were excellent.

There's a way to go yet.

It was a good league last year but for a team at our stage of development in hindsight I think we'd have been better off going down last year.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3322 - 28/01/2025 11:15:34    2588129

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Two teams up and down between each division.

Am already afraid that Wexford will be one of the teams going down!"
Not sure, think we really missed the Walsh Cup to fine tune things. Cork for example are far more settled, and it showed Saturday evening. I thi k Keith has to play the younger lads see will any of them step up, and if that means,relegation then so be it.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14518 - 28/01/2025 11:37:03    2588138

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Replying To legendzxix:  "The 2025 hurling league possibly has the 1 to 35 teams in balanced divisions. 2 of the top 7 will be in 1B next year. 2 of the teams outside the top 14 will be in 1B as well. It will probably balance out over the years. The current table after Round 1 would have Galway, Wexford, Down and Derry in 1B. Obviously early days. Merely highlighting the type of games for year 2 of the new league. It's about time lower counties get at least one or two top level games. There has been too much over protection.
Down learning lessons from getting hockeyed by Galway and Wexford is far more beneficial than countless years playing the same teams outside the top 9."
Agree. I like the structure and I think Div 1B is a great division and should be again next year. Great also for likes of Donegal and Tyrone to be dipping their toes in Div 2 without having no hope of winning games or of staying up. The balance across all Divisions looks right and can aid development. No team in 1B or 2 will be getting hidings week in week out and no team will win either division without having a few good battles.

Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1448 - 28/01/2025 11:37:11    2588139

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Replying To Onion Breath:  "Agree. I like the structure and I think Div 1B is a great division and should be again next year. Great also for likes of Donegal and Tyrone to be dipping their toes in Div 2 without having no hope of winning games or of staying up. The balance across all Divisions looks right and can aid development. No team in 1B or 2 will be getting hidings week in week out and no team will win either division without having a few good battles."
It's definitely the best League structure they have had in years. Really like the 2 up 2 down element also

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14518 - 28/01/2025 12:15:45    2588150

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Replying To Viking66:  "It's definitely the best League structure they have had in years. Really like the 2 up 2 down element also"
The big sell for the top 9 is that they should only be out of 1A for no more than a year. Divisions of 7 and 2 up/down has delivered that. The league has possibly found a long-term format.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8488 - 28/01/2025 14:19:29    2588176

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