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DIVISION 1
Division 1 is arguably as tough as it can get with the way promotion and relegation worked out. 4 provincial winners, the All Ireland winners, defending league winners, Mayo and Tyrone. It's going to be some challenge to retain Division 1 status. The last two All Ireland winners then have come from Division 2!
DIVISION 2
Roscommon and Monaghan will be looking to bounce back. Cork and Meath will want to be careful. The big battle will be avoiding relegation and probably missing out on the All-Ireland groups.
DIVISION 3
Clare have a favourable path to a Munster final. All others will probably have to win Division 3 to qualify for the All-Ireland.
DIVISION 4
Tipperary or Waterford didn't challenge last year. Waterford beat Tipperary in the Munster quarter final. A good result for them to be fair. Limerick might be in the middle of a Leinster battle for promotion.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8433 - 17/12/2024 18:43:58
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Replying To legendzxix: "DIVISION 1
Division 1 is arguably as tough as it can get with the way promotion and relegation worked out. 4 provincial winners, the All Ireland winners, defending league winners, Mayo and Tyrone. It's going to be some challenge to retain Division 1 status. The last two All Ireland winners then have come from Division 2!
DIVISION 2
Roscommon and Monaghan will be looking to bounce back. Cork and Meath will want to be careful. The big battle will be avoiding relegation and probably missing out on the All-Ireland groups.
DIVISION 3
Clare have a favourable path to a Munster final. All others will probably have to win Division 3 to qualify for the All-Ireland.
DIVISION 4
Tipperary or Waterford didn't challenge last year. Waterford beat Tipperary in the Munster quarter final. A good result for them to be fair. Limerick might be in the middle of a Leinster battle for promotion." League should be good. It usually is. Tbh it's been far better than the Championship overall for a good many years now.
Hoping we can win div 4, but I expect it will be the usual dogfight. We definitely are capable, but then again so are nearly everyone else, impossible to predict.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14294 - 18/12/2024 07:13:31
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Division 1 - would think Donegal will go well. Dublin and Armagh maybe to struggle, Dublin player availability and Armagh with hangover
Division 2 - Roscommon and Cork should be winning it, Louth wont be far off, hard to know how Monaghan will go.
Division 3 - Clare and KIldare should be pushing for promotion, Sligo as well.
Division 4 - no one really stands out, even between a few teams, Limerick, Wicklow, Longford, Tipp, Wexford would all fancy there chances.
League is always a good competition and no one can argue with the final standings.
There will be even more interest this year with the new rules, and the rules will dominate the league, and will affect the final standings, which teams they suit more, which teams can figure them out the quickest.
I think the final standings wont be a true reflection like other years, but it will be still as interesting or even more interesting.
The poor referees are going to have an awful time with all the new rules.
Tribes88 (Galway) - Posts: 19 - 18/12/2024 09:05:02
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Dublin will have to take a big gamble on getting a team up to speed for the championship so be among more likely to be in danger of the drop.
BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3300 - 18/12/2024 09:15:05
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Replying To BarneyGrant: "Dublin will have to take a big gamble on getting a team up to speed for the championship so be among more likely to be in danger of the drop." Think so also tbh.
I think there is a real chance of that happening.
As for Div 2 - what is going on with Cork football....???
7 players have stepped away.
https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/334652
I think Leinster could be a lot more competitive than Munster this year in Football.
Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4084 - 18/12/2024 11:04:11
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The big battle for All Ireland qualification will be in Division 2. The top 4 should be safe. 5th and 6th should be as well but can't be guaranteed.
Clare's favourable Munster draw means all others will have to win Division 3 for what could be the final qualification spot.
Division 1 doesn't really have the jeopardy of All Ireland qualification but I suppose they have to retain their Division 1 place to keep that safety net.
Donegal v Derry, New York v Galway and Mayo v Sligo are probably scheduled for the weekend after the league finals.
legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8433 - 13/01/2025 19:19:48
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Replying To Fionn: "Think so also tbh.
I think there is a real chance of that happening.
As for Div 2 - what is going on with Cork football....???
7 players have stepped away.
https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/334652
I think Leinster could be a lot more competitive than Munster this year in Football." Cork football baffles me. I know the hurling is bigger down there, but Cork should surely be competing more consistently at the top levels of the game. They do very well underage and have a great pedigree producing great footballers.
I think they'd need some kind of messianic type manager like we have up here with Jim. Someone who would instantly command public attention and player respect. Get the best footballers in Cork fit and focussed. Someone like Graham Canty maybe? There's plenty of raw material there to work with. Or maybe there are other factors that outsiders like me aren't privy to?
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9546 - 14/01/2025 11:53:08
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Looking forward to the new league campaign but the rules may be the deciding factor when it comes down to it for some teams. Especially if errors are made.
Anyway giving a first glance view on each division.
D1: I can see Donegal giving it a good run this year with Dublin and Kerry in the hunt for a league final position. Think Mayo, Derry and Tyrone will be in the relegation mix.
D2: Extremely competitive. Think Monaghan will make a return to D1 with Ros/Down to join them. Westmeath, Cork, Louth all in the mix for relegation.
D3: Kildare will take a promotion spot and I'm hoping that Sligo will too but Clare and Fermanagh will put us under pressure. Leitrim a certainty for relegation with Antrim to join them.
D4: Backing Wexford and Limerick to gain promotion this year. Wicklow to be in the chasing pack.
Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 435 - 14/01/2025 12:32:41
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Replying To Lockjaw: "Cork football baffles me. I know the hurling is bigger down there, but Cork should surely be competing more consistently at the top levels of the game. They do very well underage and have a great pedigree producing great footballers.
I think they'd need some kind of messianic type manager like we have up here with Jim. Someone who would instantly command public attention and player respect. Get the best footballers in Cork fit and focussed. Someone like Graham Canty maybe? There's plenty of raw material there to work with. Or maybe there are other factors that outsiders like me aren't privy to?" They have a double inferiority complex!
In their own County to hurling and outside it to Kerry.
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2023 - 14/01/2025 12:44:52
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Replying To Lockjaw: "Cork football baffles me. I know the hurling is bigger down there, but Cork should surely be competing more consistently at the top levels of the game. They do very well underage and have a great pedigree producing great footballers.
I think they'd need some kind of messianic type manager like we have up here with Jim. Someone who would instantly command public attention and player respect. Get the best footballers in Cork fit and focussed. Someone like Graham Canty maybe? There's plenty of raw material there to work with. Or maybe there are other factors that outsiders like me aren't privy to?" Thing is lockjaw football is way bigger than hurling in most parts of West Cork. It's baffling for sure, with their history, quality of players and playing numbers.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14294 - 14/01/2025 15:12:16
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Replying To Sligoman1234: "Looking forward to the new league campaign but the rules may be the deciding factor when it comes down to it for some teams. Especially if errors are made.
Anyway giving a first glance view on each division.
D1: I can see Donegal giving it a good run this year with Dublin and Kerry in the hunt for a league final position. Think Mayo, Derry and Tyrone will be in the relegation mix.
D2: Extremely competitive. Think Monaghan will make a return to D1 with Ros/Down to join them. Westmeath, Cork, Louth all in the mix for relegation.
D3: Kildare will take a promotion spot and I'm hoping that Sligo will too but Clare and Fermanagh will put us under pressure. Leitrim a certainty for relegation with Antrim to join them.
D4: Backing Wexford and Limerick to gain promotion this year. Wicklow to be in the chasing pack." I'm hoping you are right, being as you have tipped us for promotion, but apart from your Donegal and Monaghan predictions I think your other div1 and div2 predictions could be way out. If you can bring some of your younger lads through and familiar with the new rules, you could go up, not sure about Kildare tbh. Clare will be competitive ok.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14294 - 14/01/2025 15:16:11
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I'm not so sure Donegal will be pushing all that hard to win Div 1. They'll certainly want to retain Div 1 status but winning it outright will not be high on Jim's agenda, especially with the Derry game looming so soon after the league finals.
There are a few players returning to the fold like Murphy, McFadden-Ferry and Eoin McHugh, plus lads like Conor O'Donnell who didn't get much playing time last year due to injury. I'd imagine the league will be used to reintegrate these lads and also for the whole squad to get to grips with the new rules, and whatever tactical lessons can be learned from them.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9546 - 14/01/2025 15:36:41
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Replying To Fionn: "Think so also tbh.
I think there is a real chance of that happening.
As for Div 2 - what is going on with Cork football....???
7 players have stepped away.
https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/334652
I think Leinster could be a lot more competitive than Munster this year in Football." Steven Sherlock is the biggest loss others are subs or fringe players. They still have solid starting team to pick from a decent panel and no excuse not to be pushing for promotion this year. Bookies see it that way also having them in the mix for promotion.
Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3520 - 14/01/2025 18:06:08
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Replying To Viking66: "I'm hoping you are right, being as you have tipped us for promotion, but apart from your Donegal and Monaghan predictions I think your other div1 and div2 predictions could be way out. If you can bring some of your younger lads through and familiar with the new rules, you could go up, not sure about Kildare tbh. Clare will be competitive ok." i dont see them being way out why do you think so?
Kerry depends on what they want could get a league final although tyrone may stay up and are same agree most of predictions though not sure on dublin
Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 547 - 16/01/2025 19:07:48
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Bookies have both Meaths to be favourite to be relegated Meath and WestMeath both 14/1 highest odds in div 2. Im sure all of Louth, Kildare and Cavan would be dancing in the streets if the two teams went down!
I think Roscommon and maybe Monaghon or Cork will be promoted, it tempting to tip Louth for promotion as they were playing so well, but i feel age is not on their side, they simply had to come from too low a base a few years ago when micky harte came in that i think they probably have hit their ceiling and might actually struggle they could be a shock for relegation. Down Meath and Westmeath will also be in relgation mix, cavan should stay safe in mid table they are decent in winter football more so than summer time.
dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 796 - 16/01/2025 20:18:37
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Replying To dickie10: "Bookies have both Meaths to be favourite to be relegated Meath and WestMeath both 14/1 highest odds in div 2. Im sure all of Louth, Kildare and Cavan would be dancing in the streets if the two teams went down!
I think Roscommon and maybe Monaghon or Cork will be promoted, it tempting to tip Louth for promotion as they were playing so well, but i feel age is not on their side, they simply had to come from too low a base a few years ago when micky harte came in that i think they probably have hit their ceiling and might actually struggle they could be a shock for relegation. Down Meath and Westmeath will also be in relgation mix, cavan should stay safe in mid table they are decent in winter football more so than summer time." Dickie why would Louth, Kildare and Cavan be dancing in the streets if both Meath and Westmeath go down? I
Ollie2 (Louth) - Posts: 955 - 18/01/2025 17:15:01
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I see RTE are giving Armagh great live coverage showing 4 of their league games live.
Can't wait to get started now and to see Michael Murphy back in action for the county again, not worried about the league or Ulster this year, all about the All Ireland series for me.
Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3071 - 18/01/2025 18:04:54
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I was reading where Eamon Fitz was saying if he was coaching a team playing next weekend with new rules he would advise players not to think about them hopefully he not give same advice to the poor referees,,, if he and committe had not come up with so many changes no one have. To worry about them have they come up with new name for this new game yet ,,, obviously they need new cup as well ,,,,,
Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 968 - 18/01/2025 19:05:17
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Replying To Kickitout: "I was reading where Eamon Fitz was saying if he was coaching a team playing next weekend with new rules he would advise players not to think about them hopefully he not give same advice to the poor referees,,, if he and committe had not come up with so many changes no one have. To worry about them have they come up with new name for this new game yet ,,, obviously they need new cup as well ,,,,," People need give chance at keat to mid or end of league before writing it off . Typical Irish attitude Aby wonder we don't like any chance write off before it starts but will continue to moan
Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 547 - 18/01/2025 21:41:41
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Replying To Ollie2: "Dickie why would Louth, Kildare and Cavan be dancing in the streets if both Meath and Westmeath go down? I" Personally don't care if Louth go down but admittedly would get a good chuckle out of Meath.
Yes I know, I know… we're ones to talk
Sweetspot (Kildare) - Posts: 326 - 18/01/2025 22:49:00
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