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Anything that was inflatable was, sure, very stupid.
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4472 - 25/01/2025 22:55:54 2587543 Link 0 |
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Green and red ,will always defend the "centre of Excellence "like the man that built it
Timmy86 (Sligo) - Posts: 314 - 25/01/2025 23:11:49 2587546 Link 1 |
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A lot of wise after the event comments here re the dome. This was an exceptional storm, and it did weather many severe storms since 2020. Remember this storm blew out concrete gables of houses!! Had it been deflated the dome may actually have rendered it more vulnerable as there would be multiple surfaces for the wind to catch on to. I'm sure the manufactures will make it stronger next time but I can't think of any other building method that would house GAA games without going into huge building costs. The dome allowed many games to proceed over the years that otherwise would not due to weather it's just a pity there isn't one in every county. Inatfullforward (Longford) - Posts: 111 - 25/01/2025 23:52:03 2587547 Link 1 |
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An over sized air tent In the west of Ireland on a field in the middle of nowhere in Mayo who would have guessed that would have happened? The cost to build anything nowadays is much more and what insurance company is going to take it on? No high profile games was ever attended there as it wasn't able to even hold 2,000. All the schools,underage games can as they did in the past be played on their outdoor pitches.
Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 288 - 26/01/2025 02:18:07 2587558 Link 1 |
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"why didn't they deflate the airdome". There is a reason. It's because these airdomes are not designed to be deflated and taken down at very short notice. The airdomes are designed to be big, fast, light and economical to build. With those principle comes trade-offs: big -> temperatures/air pressure/ventilation/cumbersome fast -> limited aesthetic quality light -> less durable economical -> not designed to last forever / expensive to maintain. Variety of engineering reasons which makes taking down these domes extremely challenging. First and foremost, the membrane itself is simultaneously both "light" and "heavy". It's light in that it is easily damaged, and heavy in that it's huge and awkward when on the ground. To take it down, it must be 1) unsecured from fastenings, 2) deflated at an even and steady pace, 3) gathered and stored on the ground. All done with the expectation to 1) setup, 2) inflate and 3) fasten at a later date. Every one of those steps is a significant engineering and logistical task. To build that competency into your maintenance activities is expensive. The cost of insuring these structures for weather events is going to increase. Design and build with all that in mind Tirchonailabu56 (Donegal) - Posts: 26 - 26/01/2025 08:21:58 2587568 Link 2 |
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I'm definitely biased, only 5 miles from the homeplace, Prenty up the road from us. It's not good longer for teams playing indoors on an artificial surface, but has it's place when pitches aren't available. I'd find a lot more fault with our pompous county board building McHale Park too big creating more debt. Kinda funny to listen to the hindsight meteorologist from the capital doing a nixer as a structural engineer.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7723 - 26/01/2025 08:51:18 2587570 Link 0 |
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Exactly. It's great for some to be casting accertions with hindsight. I hope it's rebuilt, as you say every county should have one.
Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1126 - 26/01/2025 10:03:22 2587592 Link 0 |
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Guessing it should cost around a third of the build cost to fix as the astro pitch, founds, generators etc are all still in tack and assuming it's just the membrane that needs replacing. So possibly could be fixed within next 6 months. Although I can't see any sporting organization building more air domes until the technology is in place to deflate and reflate them within a 48 hours. Severe Storms and heavy snow loads will happen again and again, so air dome technology will need to make advancments before countries like Ireland invest in them. Tirchonailabu56 (Donegal) - Posts: 26 - 26/01/2025 11:01:23 2587602 Link 0 |
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Guessing it should cost around a third of the build cost to fix as the astro pitch, founds, generators etc are all still in tack and assuming it's just the membrane that needs replacing. So possibly could be fixed within next 6 months. Although I can't see any sporting organization building more air domes until the technology is in place to deflate and reflate them within a 48 hours. Severe Storms and heavy snow loads will happen again and again, so air dome technology will need to make advancments before countries like Ireland invest in them. Tirchonailabu56 (Donegal) - Posts: 26 - 26/01/2025 11:01:36 2587603 Link 0 |
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This it really the first sentence - it was just was is a stupid project, for the environment and conditions set. What was the plan: "Weather conditions are really bad in Connacht, lets build something that will protect us from the elements" "Grand what will we build". "A big inflatable circus tent". "Ya that will be grand, could anything go wrong". "Like what"........ Ultimately a colossal waste of money. I know Connacht gets the worst of the weather gong but its hardly, a micro climate of adverse weather to the rest of the country, its a bit wetter and windier - which makes an inflatable structure even more stupid and so its proved, the outcome is there. No other province has even looked at it, probably for the same reason it has failed in the west. Another enormous and expensive white elephant sitting deflated in a field, that's an outcome and still you'd have people saying what a great idea it was - unbelievable - they'll probably do it again you know. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4472 - 26/01/2025 12:04:28 2587622 Link 1 |
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Great post Tírchonail.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7723 - 26/01/2025 14:17:59 2587667 Link 0 |
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Lived close to one that had two full soccer pitches, change rooms etc. Not like a tent designed to be taken down and up. Actually the same concept used for sakt and sand for roads. However they with stand hurricanes and 10ft is snow load. Something flawed here unfortunately.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2911 - 26/01/2025 14:40:50 2587677 Link 0 |
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Lived close to one that had two full soccer pitches, change rooms etc. Not like a tent designed to be taken down and up. Actually the same concept used for sakt and sand for roads. However they with stand hurricanes and 10ft is snow load. Something flawed here unfortunately.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2911 - 26/01/2025 14:42:49 2587678 Link 0 |
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They have one out in Lepordstown Racecourse for the Mums to do their Yogalates, still standing as far as I know and has for decades now withstanding beasts of the easts and Storm Éowyns. You could be on to something here, stupid or flawed. I'm sure there was a project manager that did a Quality assurance and risk analysis of the project I en it was a multi million Euro project! Lads? TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4472 - 26/01/2025 16:48:24 2587709 Link 0 |