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Replying To Doylerwex: "Sorry to tread on old ground again, but do lads feel it is at least a responsibility or duty of clubs to produce county players?" It should be an ambition for all clubs to produce Wexford senior hurlers. The more Wexford senior hurlers they produce the more likely they are to be in contention on winning the club championship and also it should be an honour for a club to have a number of lads involved. Young lads in the club will look upto them too Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 655 - 25/06/2025 14:48:53 2620976 Link
Replying To Doylerwex: "Sorry to tread on old ground again, but do lads feel it is at least a responsibility or duty of clubs to produce county players?" It's a duty or responsibility of any club to do their best to help all their players be the absolute best version of themselves that they can be. If that's good enough to play for the county then that's a bonus. Any other attitude is elitist and tbh very annoying. What you seem to be implying there is that clubs should put all their time into the best lads and #### the rest of them. Not a good attitude to have at all at all. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16401 - 25/06/2025 14:57:40 2620981 Link
Replying To Doylerwex: "Sorry to tread on old ground again, but do lads feel it is at least a responsibility or duty of clubs to produce county players?" I think clubs should focus on trying to produce the best players they possibly can If you've a starting Senior team with a good few lads on the the senior intercounty team and then pretty much the rest of the team had experience for the county at U20/U21 level, you're fairly likely to have a good Senior club team So for me, I don't really see the issue with each club aiming to produce Senior inter-county players, should work out pretty much the same as aiming to produce the best possible players you ca The majority of players won't even play county level at under-age so I think it should be the aim of the club to produce as many county players as possible through good coaching and development plans rather than putting undue pressure on young players. I see no reason as to why young players shouldn't be encouraged to emulate the likes of Lee Chin, it's just a case of keeping it that way rather than putting them under too much pressure ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 582 - 25/06/2025 15:03:16 2620984 Link
Replying To Doylerwex: "Sorry to tread on old ground again, but do lads feel it is at least a responsibility or duty of clubs to produce county players?" It's a duty or responsibility of any club to do their best to help all their players be the absolute best version of themselves that they can be. If that's good enough to play for the county then that's a bonus. Any other attitude is elitist and tbh very annoying. What you seem to be implying there is that clubs should put all their time into the best lads and #### the rest of them. Not a good attitude to have at all at all. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16401 - 25/06/2025 15:11:54 2620986 Link
Replying To Doylerwex: "Just to be clear though, you do acknowledge that if it were a singing competition we'd do really well?" I'm sure we'd find some sort of way to lose at singing too! Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16401 - 25/06/2025 15:12:42 2620987 Link
Replying To Doylerwex: "Sorry to tread on old ground again, but do lads feel it is at least a responsibility or duty of clubs to produce county players?" It's the responsibility of the clubs to produce the best players they can for the needs of the club imho. That's it really, I'm not sure how it can be anything else. Club players will be club players on the basis of where they're from, what the club is. County players are county players on the basis of the whims of the people involved in those county teams at the time. One should pull in to the other in theory but it's the responsibility of me as a club coach to do what's best for the club. If that helps my county and benefits the county team then great. But here's the rub, I know in my club what type of player they want to develop up through the grades, what they want me to prioritise, what areas to concentrate on. Do you know what your county team wants in that respect? I don't, so I'll do what's best for my club. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1524 - 25/06/2025 15:51:16 2620996 Link
Replying To Viking66: "It's a duty or responsibility of any club to do their best to help all their players be the absolute best version of themselves that they can be. If that's good enough to play for the county then that's a bonus. Any other attitude is elitist and tbh very annoying. What you seem to be implying there is that clubs should put all their time into the best lads and #### the rest of them. Not a good attitude to have at all at all." In disappointing that after all this time you'd think so little of me Viking. A rising tide lifts all boats. Clubs should be focused on developing every single player. In my opinions the all have the same ceiling. Some of them will make really good choices which can culminate in walking the steps of the Hoganstand in purple and gold. The club should facilitate that dream for every player as long as possible Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3765 - 25/06/2025 18:06:46 2621057 Link
Replying To Viking66: "I'm sure we'd find some sort of way to lose at singing too!" Surely with Ed Sheeran in Purple and Gold we couldn't lose? I suppose there would be lads complaining about him being on the team though. zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2023 - 25/06/2025 19:38:57 2621072 Link
Replying To Doylerwex: "In disappointing that after all this time you'd think so little of me Viking. A rising tide lifts all boats. Clubs should be focused on developing every single player. In my opinions the all have the same ceiling. Some of them will make really good choices which can culminate in walking the steps of the Hoganstand in purple and gold. The club should facilitate that dream for every player as long as possible" Ah I get you now! Absolutely that should be the aim for every boy. It's something we mention at nearly every training session. But at the end of the day it's not my goal to develop any particular lad or small group to attain that goal, but rather to try to keep them all playing to adult, love the game, etc. If you want to build a culture like what exists in top counties its no good having a select few ex top players trying to pass that love of the game on in certain clubs or areas. You want as many lads as possible doing that in every club, whether that be a fella who won an intercounty all star or 2, or the fella that played Intermediate or Junior club until he was 38. Maybe a fella that was never an intercounty player could have 2 sons who end up being all stars, but they might never get there unless they get that gra for the game from their hero, their father. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16401 - 25/06/2025 19:58:48 2621076 Link
Replying To Doylerwex: "I'd say you're spot on in that to be honest. I still believe we have an overall higher standard or player than Dublin do but look where they are. They're far better than us at putting winning performances together consistently." Like who? Bar Chin and Rory O'Connor I don't think Wexford have a higher standard of player. What do you define as standard of player? I think Dublin have more warriors whereas I feel Wexford are a bit green and not up for a battle with the bigger counties. Its like they want to be nice in an arena where nice guys finish last! Maybe its my bias and not just after the weekend but just my opinion. I was in Limerick this week and the reaction to the result was not "Oh they owe us nothing" like it is on this board. People were fuming about some of the preparation after the Munster Final. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1400 - 25/06/2025 20:23:48 2621081 Link
Replying To ExiledInWex: "Like who? Bar Chin and Rory O'Connor I don't think Wexford have a higher standard of player. What do you define as standard of player? I think Dublin have more warriors whereas I feel Wexford are a bit green and not up for a battle with the bigger counties. Its like they want to be nice in an arena where nice guys finish last! Maybe its my bias and not just after the weekend but just my opinion. I was in Limerick this week and the reaction to the result was not "Oh they owe us nothing" like it is on this board. People were fuming about some of the preparation after the Munster Final." I'm not saying we're miles ahead or anything. That's obviously not the case. It is my belief that we have more technical hurlers. If you were to pick a combined 15 I think it would have more Wexford players on it. On the other hand I don't disagree. Dublin absolutely have more guts and that's more important for winning matches. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3765 - 25/06/2025 22:21:35 2621103 Link
Replying To Doylerwex: "I'm not saying we're miles ahead or anything. That's obviously not the case. It is my belief that we have more technical hurlers. If you were to pick a combined 15 I think it would have more Wexford players on it. On the other hand I don't disagree. Dublin absolutely have more guts and that's more important for winning matches." We could not be any further behind. countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 828 - 26/06/2025 08:52:46 2621138 Link
Replying To Doylerwex: "I'm not saying we're miles ahead or anything. That's obviously not the case. It is my belief that we have more technical hurlers. If you were to pick a combined 15 I think it would have more Wexford players on it. On the other hand I don't disagree. Dublin absolutely have more guts and that's more important for winning matches." More Technical players than Dublin? The Currie brothers, the Hayes brother, the Purcell brothers, Chris Crummy, Burke, O'Sullivan are all serious hurlers. All the above have serious workrate too something we lack. Past hurler (None) - Posts: 965 - 26/06/2025 10:17:39 2621151 Link
Replying To countyman2022: "We could not be any further behind." Well we could be Warwickshire Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3765 - 26/06/2025 11:56:58 2621173 Link
Replying To Past hurler: "More Technical players than Dublin? The Currie brothers, the Hayes brother, the Purcell brothers, Chris Crummy, Burke, O'Sullivan are all serious hurlers. All the above have serious workrate too something we lack." All very good players. Are they better technical hurlers than the o Connors, recks, Chin, Byrne, CBD, Foleys, McDonald? It's not that important anyway. We've long established Dublin are using the resources they have far better than we are. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3765 - 26/06/2025 12:00:22 2621178 Link
The "is the purpose of the club to create county players or win titles" is almost as stupid as the "hurling is a way of life" jargon. A club exists first and foremost to provide a social and physical outlet for players from 4-5-6 years old. It provides community, pride of place, identity as these players get older. It gives values like commitment, effort, sportsmanship, and many more. For the vast majority of players, the purpose of the club that and no more. For the real cream of the crop, the club is there to make them the best they can be of themselves but that is why there are county panels and development squads. The club is to the individual what the individual wants the club to be for them. I doubt a club in Bootle exists only to provide footballers to Liverpool and Everton. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1881 - 26/06/2025 13:11:11 2621205 Link