Was talking to a prominent member of the rapps at a funeral before Xmas and said he will be back training in march. I won't divulge into what has happened but yes he has had a very serious operation. I hope he can come back but his health is more important
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Replying To Wexfordgaa: "Was talking to a prominent member of the rapps at a funeral before Xmas and said he will be back training in march. I won't divulge into what has happened but yes he has had a very serious operation. I hope he can come back but his health is more important" I hope he makes a full recovery and whether he ever plays for club or county again . lets face it every players health should always be the priority . They are people first with their whole lives ahead of them.with other potentials to fulfill. Gaa is amateur and we should not forget that well for players anyway . The paid percentage are out for success and should nt be at any cost and should be kept in check and questionable to a certain level for mishandling player welfare. Players first
Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 310 - 04/01/2025 11:54:29
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Replying To Afinestick96: "Are our lads playing a challenge game today ? I see details of most other top counties games on Twitter but haven't heard when our lads are out next" Not sure if it's today. And depends if pitch is frozen.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14157 - 04/01/2025 12:14:09
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Replying To Wexfordgaa: "Was talking to a prominent member of the rapps at a funeral before Xmas and said he will be back training in march. I won't divulge into what has happened but yes he has had a very serious operation. I hope he can come back but his health is more important" It's a big risk. If I happened to be talking to him again in the next few months I'm not sure I'd be asking him to come back, much though I think we need him.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14157 - 04/01/2025 12:16:36
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Replying To Wexfordgaa: "Was talking to a prominent member of the rapps at a funeral before Xmas and said he will be back training in march. I won't divulge into what has happened but yes he has had a very serious operation. I hope he can come back but his health is more important" I hope he makes a full recovery and whether he ever plays for club or county again . lets face it every players health should always be the priority . They are people first with their whole lives ahead of them.with other potentials to fulfill. Gaa is amateur and we should not forget that well for players anyway . The paid percentage are out for success and should nt be at any cost and should be kept in check and questionable to a certain level for mishandling player welfare. Players first Not suggesting that current mabagement responsible for anything . but all paid coaches, managenent or s&c do need to be monitored to ensure all players are not being put at risk of future ill health or avoidable injuries. Injuries are a part of the game. And need to be managed properly. Maybe a survey on what the retiring intercounty players (countrywide ) think and if they had the choice again would they do it and for how long . Is it sustainable, is the commitment too much . Has it held them back personally . Did you feel like you were valued as a person or just a cog in the wheel . In your opinion we're you put in a position where you played but felt you should nt and were u put under an pressure either directly or indirectly What differs now from when you first went in and how has it changed . For better or worse . In their opinion is it better or worse and how can it be improved for player welfare and why .
Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 310 - 04/01/2025 13:26:17
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Happy new year to everyone, some thoughts for the year ahead.
The only way I see O'Hanlon and Ryan being replaced sufficiently is Whelan at 3 which I think will happen for the league and Foley at 6, but the will he wont he with needs to come to a head, he's either committed to it or he's not.
If Oisin Foley comes back this year, I'd like to see him moved to midfield and Lawlor pushed forward . Chin brought out the field would work I think in particular against the likes of a Kilkenny or Dublin.
Hoping younger players Conor Foley, Eoin Ryan and Byrne make a step up this year.
In terms of the league it's going to be fairly backs to the wall I think, the home games will decide whether we stay up or not, in particular the two vs Kilkenny and Galway, I think getting an away win would be a bonus.
Calling a spade a spade, Leinster Championship will boil down to our 2nd and 3rd games in the long term, to have any hope of getting to a final we'd have to come away from those 2 games with at least 2 points
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Not commenting on whether either of the Foleys or Jippo should be part of their squad as that's none of my business but if we're being honest, if you look at the other top teams, they have five or six core players who drive the team. You don't just lose players of the calibre of Paudie Foley and Jippo and continue on as normal
We did a good enough job at blooding some young players last year and we need to do the same this year, have to hope that there'll be new players given experience like Eoin Whelan and that others in their second or third seasons will improve again on last season
FWIW, Galway and Dublin both look to be in transition and make no mistake about it, Eoin O'Donnell is a gigantic loss for Dublin Kilkenny could be in re-building mode as well. I suppose you could look at it one way and say we're ahead of these teams in terms of transitioning and that should mean that a Leinster Final is very reachable. But at the same time, in the last three Championship seasons, we've lost to Antrim, beat them by four points at home, drew with Westmeath, and then lost to them by two points at home. Antrim could be looking at us and thinking they're better than us (Although they have to prove themselves in games not against Wexford and outside of Corrigan Park plus Cunning has done his ACL and McCann has retired, not exactly ideal for them)
Depending on who is or isn't a member of the panel and depending on how we deal with things mentally (Because IMO, our biggest issues right now are mental, not saying we don't have other issues but what's in our heads is by far and away our biggest problem), we could conceivably be in a relegation dogfight or we could be winning Leinster (And if the latter were to happen, you just don't know where we could stop given the momentum and let's face it, the fact that there's the potential for 30k+ Wexford fans to bandwagon)
Fine margins
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Not commenting on whether either of the Foleys or Jippo should be part of their squad as that's none of my business but if we're being honest, if you look at the other top teams, they have five or six core players who drive the team. You don't just lose players of the calibre of Paudie Foley and Jippo and continue on as normal
We did a good enough job at blooding some young players last year and we need to do the same this year, have to hope that there'll be new players given experience like Eoin Whelan and that others in their second or third seasons will improve again on last season
FWIW, Galway and Dublin both look to be in transition and make no mistake about it, Eoin O'Donnell is a gigantic loss for Dublin Kilkenny could be in re-building mode as well. I suppose you could look at it one way and say we're ahead of these teams in terms of transitioning and that should mean that a Leinster Final is very reachable. But at the same time, in the last three Championship seasons, we've lost to Antrim, beat them by four points at home, drew with Westmeath, and then lost to them by two points at home. Antrim could be looking at us and thinking they're better than us (Although they have to prove themselves in games not against Wexford and outside of Corrigan Park plus Cunning has done his ACL and McCann has retired, not exactly ideal for them)
Depending on who is or isn't a member of the panel and depending on how we deal with things mentally (Because IMO, our biggest issues right now are mental, not saying we don't have other issues but what's in our heads is by far and away our biggest problem), we could conceivably be in a relegation dogfight or we could be winning Leinster (And if the latter were to happen, you just don't know where we could stop given the momentum and let's face it, the fact that there's the potential for 30k+ Wexford fans to bandwagon)
Fine margins" It really is a great time of year to be a hurling supporter, especially a Wexford one! Who really knows how the year is going to go?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14157 - 04/01/2025 16:48:19
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Not commenting on whether either of the Foleys or Jippo should be part of their squad as that's none of my business but if we're being honest, if you look at the other top teams, they have five or six core players who drive the team. You don't just lose players of the calibre of Paudie Foley and Jippo and continue on as normal
We did a good enough job at blooding some young players last year and we need to do the same this year, have to hope that there'll be new players given experience like Eoin Whelan and that others in their second or third seasons will improve again on last season
FWIW, Galway and Dublin both look to be in transition and make no mistake about it, Eoin O'Donnell is a gigantic loss for Dublin Kilkenny could be in re-building mode as well. I suppose you could look at it one way and say we're ahead of these teams in terms of transitioning and that should mean that a Leinster Final is very reachable. But at the same time, in the last three Championship seasons, we've lost to Antrim, beat them by four points at home, drew with Westmeath, and then lost to them by two points at home. Antrim could be looking at us and thinking they're better than us (Although they have to prove themselves in games not against Wexford and outside of Corrigan Park plus Cunning has done his ACL and McCann has retired, not exactly ideal for them)
Depending on who is or isn't a member of the panel and depending on how we deal with things mentally (Because IMO, our biggest issues right now are mental, not saying we don't have other issues but what's in our heads is by far and away our biggest problem), we could conceivably be in a relegation dogfight or we could be winning Leinster (And if the latter were to happen, you just don't know where we could stop given the momentum and let's face it, the fact that there's the potential for 30k+ Wexford fans to bandwagon)
Fine margins" It really is a great time of year to be a hurling supporter, especially a Wexford one! Who really knows how the year is going to go?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14157 - 04/01/2025 16:48:25
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Happy new year to all. It was a quick year. Best of luck to matt and dee. Two excellent servants. Dee in his prime around 2019 was a box to box player. Huge engine. Matt was probably a bit under rated outside the county anyway. We wish them all the best. Id be suprised if liam og stays on he also owes wexford nothing. Jippo hasnt being himself a few years and of course wish him well because at the end of the day its only a game and your health is your wealth. Im still of the opinion that the high octane game davey had some players never came back the same. I know thats in the past and its time to move on but certainly some players never came right. That 2019 team is coming to an end. I do think that squad underachieved after being successful at u21 level. One leinster final win isnt great.its absolutely vital chin stays injury free but its about time rory o connor and conor mac live up to the underage potential and lead this team consistently,both are too hot and cold. Cant always rely on chin to lead the way. Looking to the future rossy knew there was a rebuild on the way and the key players were pushing on. He done a good job with the u20s a few years ago. He will dip into them over the next few weeks. Its a pity the walsh cup is scrapped but although a few of the matches didn't go ahead it made a mockery of cancelling the walsh cup. Any practice matches lined up? Hopefully its announced like other counties because supporters would be mad to get out. Talking about rebuild theres a huge rebuild in galway,dublin started theirs when michael came but o donnell is a big loss. Dublins backs are never too bad its up front apart from donal burke but na fianna have a few nice fowards. Kk have lost a couple of all stars so that will weaken their squad. The winning u20 team produced nothing with billy drennan gone backwards. Tj and eoin murphy near the end. They have two former good council players eoghan lyng and marty murphy involved and they could see game time. I think antrim will absolutely fancy their chances of finishing in the top 3 im leinster. Davey always get the initial bounce and will have them wound up and very organized and difficult to beat. Id be cagey enough playing them. It will be intresting to see how the league goes. It will be tough but that will stand to players. Players want to test themselves against the best. Fresh faces and fresh legs is no harm either just have to have patience.
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Not commenting on whether either of the Foleys or Jippo should be part of their squad as that's none of my business but if we're being honest, if you look at the other top teams, they have five or six core players who drive the team. You don't just lose players of the calibre of Paudie Foley and Jippo and continue on as normal
We did a good enough job at blooding some young players last year and we need to do the same this year, have to hope that there'll be new players given experience like Eoin Whelan and that others in their second or third seasons will improve again on last season
FWIW, Galway and Dublin both look to be in transition and make no mistake about it, Eoin O'Donnell is a gigantic loss for Dublin Kilkenny could be in re-building mode as well. I suppose you could look at it one way and say we're ahead of these teams in terms of transitioning and that should mean that a Leinster Final is very reachable. But at the same time, in the last three Championship seasons, we've lost to Antrim, beat them by four points at home, drew with Westmeath, and then lost to them by two points at home. Antrim could be looking at us and thinking they're better than us (Although they have to prove themselves in games not against Wexford and outside of Corrigan Park plus Cunning has done his ACL and McCann has retired, not exactly ideal for them)
Depending on who is or isn't a member of the panel and depending on how we deal with things mentally (Because IMO, our biggest issues right now are mental, not saying we don't have other issues but what's in our heads is by far and away our biggest problem), we could conceivably be in a relegation dogfight or we could be winning Leinster (And if the latter were to happen, you just don't know where we could stop given the momentum and let's face it, the fact that there's the potential for 30k+ Wexford fans to bandwagon)
Fine margins" The gap between us being competitive at winning at All Ireland is growing though. Leinster was weak last year and looks like it will be again this year. It might take 3-5 years but I think that's where our focus be, player and team development. Not limping into third place in a poor Leinster championship and holding onto older lads for a final year. We need to find a 3, 6, 7, 9, 11 - no easy job! Limerick and Clare were in a bad state themselves not too long ago but turned things around and we can too!
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Replying To Slowandshortsighted: "Happy new year to all. It was a quick year. Best of luck to matt and dee. Two excellent servants. Dee in his prime around 2019 was a box to box player. Huge engine. Matt was probably a bit under rated outside the county anyway. We wish them all the best. Id be suprised if liam og stays on he also owes wexford nothing. Jippo hasnt being himself a few years and of course wish him well because at the end of the day its only a game and your health is your wealth. Im still of the opinion that the high octane game davey had some players never came back the same. I know thats in the past and its time to move on but certainly some players never came right. That 2019 team is coming to an end. I do think that squad underachieved after being successful at u21 level. One leinster final win isnt great.its absolutely vital chin stays injury free but its about time rory o connor and conor mac live up to the underage potential and lead this team consistently,both are too hot and cold. Cant always rely on chin to lead the way. Looking to the future rossy knew there was a rebuild on the way and the key players were pushing on. He done a good job with the u20s a few years ago. He will dip into them over the next few weeks. Its a pity the walsh cup is scrapped but although a few of the matches didn't go ahead it made a mockery of cancelling the walsh cup. Any practice matches lined up? Hopefully its announced like other counties because supporters would be mad to get out. Talking about rebuild theres a huge rebuild in galway,dublin started theirs when michael came but o donnell is a big loss. Dublins backs are never too bad its up front apart from donal burke but na fianna have a few nice fowards. Kk have lost a couple of all stars so that will weaken their squad. The winning u20 team produced nothing with billy drennan gone backwards. Tj and eoin murphy near the end. They have two former good council players eoghan lyng and marty murphy involved and they could see game time. I think antrim will absolutely fancy their chances of finishing in the top 3 im leinster. Davey always get the initial bounce and will have them wound up and very organized and difficult to beat. Id be cagey enough playing them. It will be intresting to see how the league goes. It will be tough but that will stand to players. Players want to test themselves against the best. Fresh faces and fresh legs is no harm either just have to have patience." Yes, very right to be cagey versus Antrim. Sure, they beat Wexford just last year. My money would be on Antrim if it were played in a neutral venue. Otherwise, at home Wexford win and vice-versa if Antrim played at home!
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Replying To foreveryoung: "Yes, very right to be cagey versus Antrim. Sure, they beat Wexford just last year. My money would be on Antrim if it were played in a neutral venue. Otherwise, at home Wexford win and vice-versa if Antrim played at home!" Antrim have some excellent hurlers most of whom are at the right age and fully physically developed. The couple of lads missing will be a loss, especially Cunning. They are also quite a tall side. If we are going to beat them we are going to have to have our short game in good shape, and start replacing lads when they get tired and start lumping long aimless ball forwards. That's what killed us in Corrigan Park last year.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14157 - 05/01/2025 09:17:57
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Replying To Timbertony: "The gap between us being competitive at winning at All Ireland is growing though. Leinster was weak last year and looks like it will be again this year. It might take 3-5 years but I think that's where our focus be, player and team development. Not limping into third place in a poor Leinster championship and holding onto older lads for a final year. We need to find a 3, 6, 7, 9, 11 - no easy job! Limerick and Clare were in a bad state themselves not too long ago but turned things around and we can too!" Leinster was weak last year and is probably weaker again this year, yes, but don't think we'll take advantage of that.
OpenStandWall (Wexford) - Posts: 148 - 05/01/2025 12:55:41
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Replying To Timbertony: "The gap between us being competitive at winning at All Ireland is growing though. Leinster was weak last year and looks like it will be again this year. It might take 3-5 years but I think that's where our focus be, player and team development. Not limping into third place in a poor Leinster championship and holding onto older lads for a final year. We need to find a 3, 6, 7, 9, 11 - no easy job! Limerick and Clare were in a bad state themselves not too long ago but turned things around and we can too!" Eoin Whelan should be the #3 in the long-term, don't know whether this season will be a year too soon for him but we may as well throw him in the deep end as we really don't have anyone else for the spot if Jippo is out (Could argue Conor Foley but I'd rather him at wing-back or even midfield)
I like your shout for Chin at #6, would cause problems in the half-forward line though as we're not exactly endowed with a shed-load of half-forwards who can either score or win ball. That said, we were able to work the short game well enough without Chin in the league last year but we became at bit aimless and resorted to the long ball when he was back for the Championship, maybe having him at centre-back would force the other players to think when they're working the ball out and look for good ball into the forwards rather than just lumping it
Would chance CBD at #11, he's similar enough to Cian Lynch and Tony Kelly in terms of how he plays the position IMO (Style-wise, not saying in terms of quality), could have him drifting towards midfield from centre-forward and giving him a free role to link play and shoot from distance
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 361 - 05/01/2025 13:18:19
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Happy new year and best luck to all Wexford teams again this year. Without being a doom merchant, every team in Leinster is not in a good place. Kilkenny coming off a poor loss to Clare, Dublin with new manager and reeling from Eoghan moving to the footballers, Galway in total transition and Wexford beginning a rebuild but with some good players to build with in the next 5-10 years. It pains me to say it, but every county in Leinster is 5 or possibly 10 points off the Munster champions. This is a fact and we can point to this result v that team all we want, no team in Leinster has Clare v Cork in the final in their locker. We just do not and can not hurl at that level. Our championship is stop-start, low-octane hurling. We need to fix this at every level of the game in Leinster, club, underage, schools. Until we do that nobody in Leinster will win an All-Ireland.
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Eoin Whelan should be the #3 in the long-term, don't know whether this season will be a year too soon for him but we may as well throw him in the deep end as we really don't have anyone else for the spot if Jippo is out (Could argue Conor Foley but I'd rather him at wing-back or even midfield)
I like your shout for Chin at #6, would cause problems in the half-forward line though as we're not exactly endowed with a shed-load of half-forwards who can either score or win ball. That said, we were able to work the short game well enough without Chin in the league last year but we became at bit aimless and resorted to the long ball when he was back for the Championship, maybe having him at centre-back would force the other players to think when they're working the ball out and look for good ball into the forwards rather than just lumping it
Would chance CBD at #11, he's similar enough to Cian Lynch and Tony Kelly in terms of how he plays the position IMO (Style-wise, not saying in terms of quality), could have him drifting towards midfield from centre-forward and giving him a free role to link play and shoot from distance" Chin played the 1st 3 games of the League last year, but at half forward where I think hes at his most effective for us if fully fit. Agree, I'm really hoping CBD steps up this year. Very skilful lad if a little light. Assuming Mogie doesnt play, Rory, Oisin Foley, Kevin Foley, Jacko, Dwyer, Rowley, Tucker, Mahoney, Mark Byrne, Jack Redmond, Rory Higgins, Clancy, Cillian Byrne are our other main options for half forward I think, in that order right now, with Andy Moran also in the mix. Really hoping a few of the younger lads make a strong case for a championship start during the League. As regards the backs we have the 2 Recks, and maybe Conor Foley, though he might be better longterm in midfield. I think Whelan longterm might be a better 6 than 3, and Darragh Kehoe a better 3. If Kelly and/or Dundon could get themselves quicker over the furst 20 yards, either of them might work there as they have the size, Niall Murphy is another lad needs to work at his pace, and Patsy is another big lad who can hurl who could fill a halfback position. Richie was played wingback New Years Day, he can catch a high ball and pick a pass also. Justin Moran is a good hurler, Simon Roche is an excellent hurler also. Is Gavin Bailey wanting to commit? Then there's Conor Devitt, Paudie Casey, Scallan, Mcguckin, Dooley, and Carley. Longer term options include Paidi Doyle and Eoin Hughes, who might be the best prospect of all of them. We have plenty of options, we just need a few of them to put their hand up and nail a place on our Championship team. Midfield I think Conor Hearne has to start. Other options would include some of the lads competing for places in the backs and half forwards, along with the lads up out of u20, Parker and Wickham. Inside there's Mac, if we could get consistent workrate, Rory playing a loose forward in and out if not starting half forward, Cian Byrne, Cathal Doyle, Conall Flood, Oisin Pepper, and Seamus Casey. Mogie if he came back would probably be a starter for me inside right now this year, as he's still a lethal finisher even if he hasn't the engine for the middle 3rd any more. You would still be guaranteed workrate and a great attitude with him. Obviously, again, I'd really be hoping Cian Byrne improves further, and Doyle and Pepper make a big impression, all 3 young lads have the required pace and hurling for a modern inside forward, and the other lads are pushing on towards 30 or have past 30 already. I hope I haven't missed out anyone who is available, but that's all off the top of my head so quite probably I have.
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "Happy new year and best luck to all Wexford teams again this year. Without being a doom merchant, every team in Leinster is not in a good place. Kilkenny coming off a poor loss to Clare, Dublin with new manager and reeling from Eoghan moving to the footballers, Galway in total transition and Wexford beginning a rebuild but with some good players to build with in the next 5-10 years. It pains me to say it, but every county in Leinster is 5 or possibly 10 points off the Munster champions. This is a fact and we can point to this result v that team all we want, no team in Leinster has Clare v Cork in the final in their locker. We just do not and can not hurl at that level. Our championship is stop-start, low-octane hurling. We need to fix this at every level of the game in Leinster, club, underage, schools. Until we do that nobody in Leinster will win an All-Ireland." KK should have beaten CE out of sight in the first half of their semi final. They held onto a number of players on their panel far too long like Walsh and Buckley. Will find out what their younger players are like in the next few months.
Donohue has been ruthless already with some experienced players he has dropped from the Galway panel.
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "Happy new year and best luck to all Wexford teams again this year. Without being a doom merchant, every team in Leinster is not in a good place. Kilkenny coming off a poor loss to Clare, Dublin with new manager and reeling from Eoghan moving to the footballers, Galway in total transition and Wexford beginning a rebuild but with some good players to build with in the next 5-10 years. It pains me to say it, but every county in Leinster is 5 or possibly 10 points off the Munster champions. This is a fact and we can point to this result v that team all we want, no team in Leinster has Clare v Cork in the final in their locker. We just do not and can not hurl at that level. Our championship is stop-start, low-octane hurling. We need to fix this at every level of the game in Leinster, club, underage, schools. Until we do that nobody in Leinster will win an All-Ireland." I presume this a wind-up regarding Kilkenny?
2024 is the first time I can ever remember Clare beating Kilkenny in a championship match and Kilkenny should have had that game over by half-time.
And in schools hurling there is no team in Clare or Cork that would lace St Kieran's boots year in and year out.
It would not surprise me one bit if Kilkenny won the All Ireland this year.
Wexford & Dublin are a different story, schools hurling is way off and we do find it very hard to beat Munster teams in knock-out championship.
Past hurler (None) - Posts: 837 - 05/01/2025 20:35:45
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"It pains me to say it, but every county in Leinster is 5 or possibly 10 points off the Munster champions. This is a fact ..."
ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1266 - 05/01/2025 14:20:56
It's not 'a fact', it's your opinion.
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2668 - 05/01/2025 21:12:46
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