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Replying To Pikeman96: "They are from an academic and administrative point of view, as South East Technological University (SETU), but they field separate teams in competition.
SETU Waterford continue to compete in the Fitzgibbon Cup.
SETU Carlow competed in it last year, but this year dropped to the Ryan Cup (the second-tier competition)." Not wanting to put us down in a way, but the 2 best teams on paper in the Ryan Cup both had a good few Wexford lads playing for them, and neither won it.
Think from memory both went through the group stages winning all their games pretty comfortably, including Carlow beating the eventually winners Gardai College, but then met at the SF stage where TUD surprisingly won, before losing to the Gards in the final.
Says something about us but I'm not sure what.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16823 - 11/08/2025 12:17:52
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "Would 2 colleges combined academically not compete under the same umbrella in Fitzgibbon/Sigerson?
The point still does stand though that Wexford are not producing enough top hurlers for the big colleges to come calling. Nothing is more certain than Sean O'Brien will get calls from all of them." No, they don't.
Another example is Atlantic Technological University (ATU) - basically a collection of the former ITs in Galway, Mayo, Sligo, and Donegal. All four field separate teams in the colleges football competitions.
Presume it's largely to do with logistics for training, etc. Maybe a bit like something that's regularly mentioned whenever there's a call here for a combined colleges team at second level.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3008 - 11/08/2025 14:49:43
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Pikeman96 thank you that is right I would say.
ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1456 - 11/08/2025 17:09:52
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Jesus we cant convince over half our own counties to put enough into hurling and then hurling community sticking the knives into football and then we try convince people how much our games mean to us and they should play . We cant even convince enough ofour own born and bred to play . Or even agree
Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 394 - 11/08/2025 23:18:39
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Teams on outskirts of urban areas their numbers have exploded over the last 20 years. The balance has shifted away from urvan teams with big numbers
Glynn,martins, shels,ballyhogue , oylgate , annes, cushistown, Castletown, ballinstraw gaels etc Not from any plan or structure clubs put into place.
Just purely demographics and decentralisation . If yiu looked at each club individually you would see the ruse in population coincides with club growth .
In fairness the above clubs fave mostly nutured the talent and increased playing numbers quality of course us a different issue .
Families moved to these areas tyring to gain a better way of life and balance wantinh their children to grow up in better house with space for kids to play in . I m formertownie for a reason .
These people eventually backbone the growth of these clubs as with moving you try get involved in the community knowing gaa is the bedrock of rural parishes . Yiu criss paths with club members every day nearly . You want to be involved
Now go into the towns each club has to pursue most of the players in the first instance through recruitment nowadays through a mostly multi cultural society whom mostly are oblivious to the gaa games and community . It is a battle to get the interest and when there is no gaa background they don't have an interest in helping its just another hobby for their children . Which means less people to carry the burden of recruitment as well as run coach teams and the clubs .
The more international sports are their main focus. As much as we promote our games as the best field sports in the world its played in a very small corner of the world.
Towns nowadays are a huge challenge from what i can see and hear from former team and club mates .
A untapped resource in that regard I would say co board may have a responsibility to help clubs in these areas to recruit and promote our games . Thats the challenge. I know towns clubs work harder than any rural v clubs on recruitment they have to they aave no choice .
Muhammad is not coming to the mountain
The mountain has to go to Muhammad
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Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 394 - 12/08/2025 08:35:02
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Replying To Formertownie: "Teams on outskirts of urban areas their numbers have exploded over the last 20 years. The balance has shifted away from urvan teams with big numbers
Glynn,martins, shels,ballyhogue , oylgate , annes, cushistown, Castletown, ballinstraw gaels etc Not from any plan or structure clubs put into place.
Just purely demographics and decentralisation . If yiu looked at each club individually you would see the ruse in population coincides with club growth .
In fairness the above clubs fave mostly nutured the talent and increased playing numbers quality of course us a different issue .
Families moved to these areas tyring to gain a better way of life and balance wantinh their children to grow up in better house with space for kids to play in . I m formertownie for a reason .
These people eventually backbone the growth of these clubs as with moving you try get involved in the community knowing gaa is the bedrock of rural parishes . Yiu criss paths with club members every day nearly . You want to be involved
Now go into the towns each club has to pursue most of the players in the first instance through recruitment nowadays through a mostly multi cultural society whom mostly are oblivious to the gaa games and community . It is a battle to get the interest and when there is no gaa background they don't have an interest in helping its just another hobby for their children . Which means less people to carry the burden of recruitment as well as run coach teams and the clubs .
The more international sports are their main focus. As much as we promote our games as the best field sports in the world its played in a very small corner of the world.
Towns nowadays are a huge challenge from what i can see and hear from former team and club mates .
A untapped resource in that regard I would say co board may have a responsibility to help clubs in these areas to recruit and promote our games . Thats the challenge. I know towns clubs work harder than any rural v clubs on recruitment they have to they aave no choice .
Muhammad is not coming to the mountain
The mountain has to go to Muhammad
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You're right though. A major bugbear for me is the number of people in town playing for barntown, shells and Martin's.
White rock hill is basically a new town bigger than Ross and Martin's are knocking doors there on account of it being "Pembrokestown"
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Replying To Doylerwex: "Incidentally we've a Muhammad helping out....
You're right though. A major bugbear for me is the number of people in town playing for barntown, shells and Martin's.
White rock hill is basically a new town bigger than Ross and Martin's are knocking doors there on account of it being "Pembrokestown"" We have Jordanian, Ukrainian and Nigerian lads playing for our underage teams. You don't have to be from a town club to spread the gospel.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16823 - 12/08/2025 13:02:23
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Replying To Viking66: "We have Jordanian, Ukrainian and Nigerian lads playing for our underage teams. You don't have to be from a town club to spread the gospel." That's great to hear and that is the future i d imagine theyvaeeconly roo happy to get involved .
But again its easier to access these lads in rural settings as they want to be involved within the community if they plan on staying for any lenght . In towns they already have a community and don't get exposed to gaa enough . Its not the hub of the community on the most part .
Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 394 - 12/08/2025 13:22:17
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Replying To Doylerwex: "Incidentally we've a Muhammad helping out....
You're right though. A major bugbear for me is the number of people in town playing for barntown, shells and Martin's.
White rock hill is basically a new town bigger than Ross and Martin's are knocking doors there on account of it being "Pembrokestown"" Knocking doors? That just doesn't happen. Did you know that the martins didn't even have enough players to field a feile team this year?
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Replying To Waltermitty2: "Knocking doors? That just doesn't happen. Did you know that the martins didn't even have enough players to field a feile team this year?" They pulled their 2nd team at u14 also. Feile was a bit of a disaster for more than just Martins though, we had to pull ours too. Playing it on Easter Sunday meant we had too many players away.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16823 - 12/08/2025 14:22:28
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Replying To Formertownie: "That's great to hear and that is the future i d imagine theyvaeeconly roo happy to get involved .
But again its easier to access these lads in rural settings as they want to be involved within the community if they plan on staying for any lenght . In towns they already have a community and don't get exposed to gaa enough . Its not the hub of the community on the most part ." Integration is the only way forwards for society at large, never mind the GAA. If immigrants don't want to be part of the fabric of our country then they probably shouldn't be here in the 1st place. And if people here don't want them to integrate then they are a huge part of the problem our society is facing.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16823 - 12/08/2025 14:26:07
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Replying To Waltermitty2: "Knocking doors? That just doesn't happen. Did you know that the martins didn't even have enough players to field a feile team this year?" It does and it has. Half my family live there.
I did know that, which I found shocking to be honest, although I believe it's more complicated than just not having enough players.
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3882 - 12/08/2025 14:50:02
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This is very much veering into sociology. But there is I think a version of 'white flight' happening in our towns. When I was growing up, many of the bourgeois families in towns (shop owners etc.) lived above their premises - that would never happen now, I think our towns are hollowing out to a degree and this is impacting clubs. I meet so many lads who I went to school from towns whose families backboned town clubs but who are on the sidelines with rural clubs, this is a massive boost to the rural clubs and loss the town ones. Our towns have a significant number of people who came from overseas or whose parents did and many have little understanding much less connection to the GAA. We stopped off in New Ross earlier in the summer, bringing the children into what was a really great playground and it was busy but I think we were the only indigenous Irish family there, if this is indicative of things in New Ross no wonder GOH are struggling.
I think its a huge challenge for urban club and the GAA full stop and frankly Irish society more widely but one we have to tackle and one where if a club or county can make inroads they could steal march.
wexford2012 (Wexford) - Posts: 128 - 12/08/2025 15:16:06
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Replying To wexford2012: "This is very much veering into sociology. But there is I think a version of 'white flight' happening in our towns. When I was growing up, many of the bourgeois families in towns (shop owners etc.) lived above their premises - that would never happen now, I think our towns are hollowing out to a degree and this is impacting clubs. I meet so many lads who I went to school from towns whose families backboned town clubs but who are on the sidelines with rural clubs, this is a massive boost to the rural clubs and loss the town ones. Our towns have a significant number of people who came from overseas or whose parents did and many have little understanding much less connection to the GAA. We stopped off in New Ross earlier in the summer, bringing the children into what was a really great playground and it was busy but I think we were the only indigenous Irish family there, if this is indicative of things in New Ross no wonder GOH are struggling.
I think its a huge challenge for urban club and the GAA full stop and frankly Irish society more widely but one we have to tackle and one where if a club or county can make inroads they could steal march." A Faythe Harriers man told me recently that from their 2001 Senior winning team, there are only 2 kids from fathers of that team that hurl with the Harriers. Due to re-location of the fathers, the remainder play with other teams
MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 211 - 13/08/2025 09:11:00
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Replying To MyOhMi: "A Faythe Harriers man told me recently that from their 2001 Senior winning team, there are only 2 kids from fathers of that team that hurl with the Harriers. Due to re-location of the fathers, the remainder play with other teams" There's more than two but not that many. Time will tell. Some of those lads have very young kids.
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3882 - 13/08/2025 13:02:27
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More land being purchase for Ferns COE, how many more pitches are needed? Or what is needed up there now?
btwex90 (Wexford) - Posts: 45 - 13/08/2025 16:18:02
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Replying To MyOhMi: "A Faythe Harriers man told me recently that from their 2001 Senior winning team, there are only 2 kids from fathers of that team that hurl with the Harriers. Due to re-location of the fathers, the remainder play with other teams" Curiosity got ths better of me on this. Googled the team sbd only got picture but from what I can see and remember of them think 3 players at shels now couple in glynn and couple more in martins .
Think few don't have chaps one ofcwhich was the late fmgreat john harrington and only 1 I can def say is involved that's caulifield chap who actually lives in ballymurn I m told .
Not sure if any of the lads in other clubs have chaps playing adult.
But just goes to show the outward migration from towns and the affect it has
Look at oulart team of their dominance niw they gave lads at other clubs too without migration . Just pays gigs
Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 394 - 13/08/2025 19:27:07
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