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Replying To countyman2022:  "Probably should be a slight benchmark for us and are better hurlers. They have won 6 Leinsters in a row. We have won 1 in 21 years."
Kilkenny clearly have better hurlers. I think it's time to stop using ifs and buts about any loss we have. They were only a puck away from being in AI final......as they are. They're either very close to being in the final or actually in it.

We need to stop basing ourselves on how we do in round Robin games against em. Yeah they struggled to best us under Davy and then a few years after that. I don't think they would now especially in a final or knockout.

I feel if we keep talking about decisions that went against us we won't focus on the things we need to improve on. We always have plenty of excuses and ai fear 10 years down the line we will still be talking about what's wrong at intercounty

WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 438 - 23/07/2025 10:59:33    2627385

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Replying To countyman2022:  "''We need to pay top quality coaching to get them to coach our development squads if not they will be involved in adult club teams. Coaching of our development squads is vital. We need to let 18 year olds hurl adult from next year. We need to get rid of this ridiculous format in our club championships and make every game matter . What we've seen in the club championships so far shows this format is not working and is not helping Wexford hurling"

I have been beating that drum for 18 months on all 3 fronts you have mentioned and its been taken as I'm negative and mouthy. Its basically the truth and just being a realist. We are going to be further and further behind if we don't do something soon. Look how bad our minor and u-20 results were this year. If that cant have lads worried I dont know what will. And sad thing is, we are so far behind from u-15 to adult, it is going to be possiblky up to 8-10 years time before we might see any results from changes made at develoment level made now with adult teams."
Unfortunately I agree with you and actions have to be taken now or we risk falling further behind.

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 692 - 23/07/2025 11:00:01    2627386

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The point about Rory Jacob coaching in Dublin last year while our development squads are lacking forward coaching is a good one but he is training Oulart this year I think. I get the gist though, why are we letting a coach go outside rather than keeping him in Wexford. We need all the coaches we can get.
But look at Limerick, they put Anthony Daly in at the head of it their player development. The Tipp Kilkenny rivalry didn't stop Tipp getting David Herity in as goalkeeper coach.
We need to look outside the county in my opinion and see what we can get. Like, should Wexford try poach Richie Power off the Shels when he is finished?
I also think the championship structure is a farce, nothing at stake for 5 rounds. If you win no match in 5 you could still win the county final. Imagine.
What experience did Niall Williams have to get the director of hurling role, how long is his term and what are the targets he is expected to achieve?
Wexford once said about 5 years ago we had the aim of winning an All-Ireland by 2025, this is now gone and far from winning one we are closer to Joe McDonagh than Tipp.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1923 - 23/07/2025 11:52:11    2627405

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Replying To countyman2022:  "https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41122222.html#:~:text=Essentially%20it%20means%20grouping%20players,playing%20the%20evening%20we%20meet.

Well worth a read. The coaches they have with these teams are of the highest level. Work with coaches then with less experience and basically coach these to coach at high levels."
That's a great article - well worth a read.
Big underage panels, to maximise the talent production, with well paid coaches, and multiple S&C coaches/support.

I was at the match on Sunday and what struck me was, how young the Tip team were.

More resources into the all underage development panels = more success in the future at some stage.

Punter72007 (Wexford) - Posts: 319 - 23/07/2025 14:33:07    2627458

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Replying To Punter72007:  "That's a great article - well worth a read.
Big underage panels, to maximise the talent production, with well paid coaches, and multiple S&C coaches/support.

I was at the match on Sunday and what struck me was, how young the Tip team were.

More resources into the all underage development panels = more success in the future at some stage."
Abolsutely its not all doom and gloom. If we can get top quality coaches and structures into our development squads things can really improve within a few years.

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 692 - 23/07/2025 15:12:46    2627476

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Replying To Afinestick96:  "Abolsutely its not all doom and gloom. If we can get top quality coaches and structures into our development squads things can really improve within a few years."
It is doom and gloom until we do that. Personally know 3 of the coaches involved with underage squads this year and genuinely, I would not allow them near underage teams in my own club. Never mind co development squads.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 874 - 23/07/2025 16:25:51    2627489

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Replying To countyman2022:  "It is doom and gloom until we do that. Personally know 3 of the coaches involved with underage squads this year and genuinely, I would not allow them near underage teams in my own club. Never mind co development squads."
How are these things changed? Are they discussed at the Coiste Nog AGM ? Obviously something needs to happen

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 692 - 23/07/2025 16:43:35    2627491

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Replying To countyman2022:  "''We need to pay top quality coaching to get them to coach our development squads if not they will be involved in adult club teams. Coaching of our development squads is vital. We need to let 18 year olds hurl adult from next year. We need to get rid of this ridiculous format in our club championships and make every game matter . What we've seen in the club championships so far shows this format is not working and is not helping Wexford hurling"

I have been beating that drum for 18 months on all 3 fronts you have mentioned and its been taken as I'm negative and mouthy. Its basically the truth and just being a realist. We are going to be further and further behind if we don't do something soon. Look how bad our minor and u-20 results were this year. If that cant have lads worried I dont know what will. And sad thing is, we are so far behind from u-15 to adult, it is going to be possiblky up to 8-10 years time before we might see any results from changes made at develoment level made now with adult teams."
For once I agree with all of this bar the 8-10 years part. If you do it right things can improve quite quickly which we've seen in the past.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3882 - 23/07/2025 17:01:44    2627495

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Replying To Punter72007:  "That's a great article - well worth a read.
Big underage panels, to maximise the talent production, with well paid coaches, and multiple S&C coaches/support.

I was at the match on Sunday and what struck me was, how young the Tip team were.

More resources into the all underage development panels = more success in the future at some stage."
I think the panels should certainly be bigger especially at u14. That's the conclusion Clare came to a few years ago when their study found out how many lads on u14 development squads never play club adult, let alone intercounty. Think the figure was around 30%. Clare have approximately twice as many on their u14 panel as we do.
For that to happen CB will likely have to increase coaching and games budget.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16823 - 23/07/2025 17:47:30    2627511

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Replying To Viking66:  "I think the panels should certainly be bigger especially at u14. That's the conclusion Clare came to a few years ago when their study found out how many lads on u14 development squads never play club adult, let alone intercounty. Think the figure was around 30%. Clare have approximately twice as many on their u14 panel as we do.
For that to happen CB will likely have to increase coaching and games budget."
And they should. Money should be absolutely lobbed into underage systems going forward. And I mean lobbed. If we need go find a Lowry or JP, lets go find one.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 874 - 23/07/2025 21:33:52    2627545

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Replying To countyman2022:  "And they should. Money should be absolutely lobbed into underage systems going forward. And I mean lobbed. If we need go find a Lowry or JP, lets go find one."
I'm not into wasting money, but absolutely initiatives like- 1 winter county training once a week for all age groups once a week up to minor,
2- more and better coaches involved in development squads,
3- more young players involved in development squads especially the younger age groups,
4- more direct coaching in schools to help raise the standard of school teachers coaching, both in secondary and 5th and 6th classes in national schools,
5- these coaches could then do more direct coaching of all club teams in the summer months to raise the standard of coaching in our clubs further as club coaches could see how it should be done,
These would all be worthwhile for our County Board to spend money on.
Be it on-
A- advertising to get lads interested in coaching courses,
B- more coaching the coaches courses,
C- recruiting more good coaches for Wexford coaching and games to run these courses and coach in schools over the winter and all clubs over the summer.

Having met pretty much most of the current staff of our coaching and games set up, and watched closely how they coached various different groups of players at this stage, I think all the lads from Niall Williams and Ray Harris downwards are good coaches, good hurling or football people, are very dedicated to what they do, and keep closely up to date with innovations and best practices from counties all over the country. I think these lads are the lads who should be over the coaching of all county teams up to and including minor, or even u20, as in be the lead coaches if not the managers and be in charge of all coaching fecisions, not volunteers with variable levels of coaching ability.
Been beating this drum for a long time now.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16823 - 24/07/2025 10:50:29    2627615

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Replying To countyman2022:  "And they should. Money should be absolutely lobbed into underage systems going forward. And I mean lobbed. If we need go find a Lowry or JP, lets go find one."
Have we got anyone in the county that would be willing to do that? I agree with you underage development is our number one priority now

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 692 - 24/07/2025 11:04:20    2627624

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Replying To countyman2022:  "And they should. Money should be absolutely lobbed into underage systems going forward. And I mean lobbed. If we need go find a Lowry or JP, lets go find one."
I'm not into wasting money, but absolutely initiatives like-
1- winter county training once a week for all age groups once a week up to minor,
2- more and better coaches involved in development squads,
3- more young players involved in development squads especially the younger age groups,
4- more direct coaching by coaching and games in schools to help raise the standard of school teachers' coaching, both in secondary and 5th and 6th classes in national schools,
5- these centrally employed coaches could then do more direct coaching of all club teams in the summer months to raise the standard of coaching in our clubs further, as club coaches could see how it should be done.

These would all be worthwhile for our County Board to spend money on.

Be it on-
A- advertising to get lads interested in coaching courses,
B- more coaching the coaches courses,
C- recruiting more good coaches for Wexford coaching and games to run these courses and coach in schools over the winter and all clubs over the summer.

Having met pretty much most of the current staff of our coaching and games set up, and watched closely how they coached various different groups of players at this stage, I think all the lads from Niall Williams and Ray Harris downwards are good coaches, good hurling or football people, are very dedicated to what they do, and keep closely up to date with innovations and best practices from counties all over the country. I think these lads are the lads who should be over the coaching of all county teams up to and including minor, or even u20, as in be the lead coaches, if not the managers, and be in charge of all coaching decisions. These coaching decisions should not be left to volunteer managers with variable levels of coaching ability, who sometimes only get the job over the team they end up with because theres noone else left in for the job.

Been beating this drum for a long time now.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16823 - 24/07/2025 11:09:04    2627629

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Replying To Viking66:  "I'm not into wasting money, but absolutely initiatives like-
1- winter county training once a week for all age groups once a week up to minor,
2- more and better coaches involved in development squads,
3- more young players involved in development squads especially the younger age groups,
4- more direct coaching by coaching and games in schools to help raise the standard of school teachers' coaching, both in secondary and 5th and 6th classes in national schools,
5- these centrally employed coaches could then do more direct coaching of all club teams in the summer months to raise the standard of coaching in our clubs further, as club coaches could see how it should be done.

These would all be worthwhile for our County Board to spend money on.

Be it on-
A- advertising to get lads interested in coaching courses,
B- more coaching the coaches courses,
C- recruiting more good coaches for Wexford coaching and games to run these courses and coach in schools over the winter and all clubs over the summer.

Having met pretty much most of the current staff of our coaching and games set up, and watched closely how they coached various different groups of players at this stage, I think all the lads from Niall Williams and Ray Harris downwards are good coaches, good hurling or football people, are very dedicated to what they do, and keep closely up to date with innovations and best practices from counties all over the country. I think these lads are the lads who should be over the coaching of all county teams up to and including minor, or even u20, as in be the lead coaches, if not the managers, and be in charge of all coaching decisions. These coaching decisions should not be left to volunteer managers with variable levels of coaching ability, who sometimes only get the job over the team they end up with because theres noone else left in for the job.

Been beating this drum for a long time now."
All very good points Viking . Please bring them up with a county board rep we urgently need to get the ball rolling. I think if we implement initiatives like you have said and get buy in from everyone we can turn things around.

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 692 - 24/07/2025 11:48:27    2627653

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Replying To countyman2022:  "And they should. Money should be absolutely lobbed into underage systems going forward. And I mean lobbed. If we need go find a Lowry or JP, lets go find one."
Jim Bolger is the only person I can think of who has done similar to Lowry or McManus for us?

OpenStandWall (Wexford) - Posts: 285 - 24/07/2025 13:15:00    2627672

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https://open.spotify.com/episode/2uj9F0YmwOFzg60AjMtoH8?si=DHlda2KdQguDGrCQT3WPOQ

Interesting listen in hindsight to say the least.

OpenStandWall (Wexford) - Posts: 285 - 24/07/2025 13:23:25    2627674

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Replying To OpenStandWall:  "Jim Bolger is the only person I can think of who has done similar to Lowry or McManus for us?"
We aren't in debt, and have good income streams. Why do we need a sugar daddy? Nice though that would be.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16823 - 24/07/2025 14:57:11    2627699

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Replying To OpenStandWall:  "https://open.spotify.com/episode/2uj9F0YmwOFzg60AjMtoH8?si=DHlda2KdQguDGrCQT3WPOQ

Interesting listen in hindsight to say the least."
Had the afternoon off work so had a listen . Very interesting we have 14 full time coaches. 1 million being invested from 2022 to 2027 in player development. Is everything that was promised in this plan from 2022 being implement or what needs to be changed from this plan?

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 692 - 24/07/2025 16:27:35    2627724

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Replying To Afinestick96:  "Had the afternoon off work so had a listen . Very interesting we have 14 full time coaches. 1 million being invested from 2022 to 2027 in player development. Is everything that was promised in this plan from 2022 being implement or what needs to be changed from this plan?"
I think it was said that the majority of that 1 million was earmarked for recruitment. IE Director of Hurling etc

Paull (Wexford) - Posts: 210 - 24/07/2025 16:47:43    2627730

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Replying To Viking66:  "We aren't in debt, and have good income streams. Why do we need a sugar daddy? Nice though that would be."
Why would you not want one? Go get the absolute best of everything without worrying about where the money comes from. Go pay the best coaches from Muntser, go get players the supp's they need and meals they want and go have the best facilities

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 874 - 24/07/2025 19:51:40    2627768

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