Replying To Viking66: "Jacko is/was 30 this year." Jacko is 1994, Kevin Foley/Jippo/Donohoe are 1995
Then you have Dunbar who's 1996 and then Casey and Shane Reck who are 1997
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 556 - 28/05/2025 19:06:12
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Replying To Viking66: "Been over that a few times on this. I agree what we have isn't ideal." Yes we have viking. You know what they say though, if you throw enough dirt some of it might stick. If you know what I mean.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 502 - 28/05/2025 20:23:30
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Far from retiring lads I think Wexford people should be hoping these players stay on because I really fear for you if the older players (your best players all year) leave the setup. You need experience and a load of it. I remember when Conal K left the Dublin setup and our forward unit was lost without him. Its not as if you have 3xU21 teams coming through. Be very careful what you wish for regarding retiring players.
ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1354 - 29/05/2025 12:33:07
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "Far from retiring lads I think Wexford people should be hoping these players stay on because I really fear for you if the older players (your best players all year) leave the setup. You need experience and a load of it. I remember when Conal K left the Dublin setup and our forward unit was lost without him. Its not as if you have 3xU21 teams coming through. Be very careful what you wish for regarding retiring players." In fairness, I don't think anybody is actually wishing for those retirements. They're just speculating that some of them might happen.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2897 - 29/05/2025 12:40:56
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Replying To Magpie2: "Yeah well deserved even though it was a game of zero importance. Total madness that we have to wait 8 months, I'll repeat that, 8 months before we can see him and the rest of the lads play intercounty again. In a few weeks we'll have club games of low interest due to the fact that the group games have little or no jeopardy. Time the County board delegates woke up to the fact that the present system needs changing and put some zest back into our local championship once more." Club hurling and football is a poor standard in Wexford is probably the biggest issue facing the county. Not the county scene.
In other counties lads are training from December or January for championship. Underage coaching is really important, plenty of resources are put into it at club level. Club players follow gym and conditioning programmes. GAA is their number one sport. Adult coaching is of a really serious standard, including outside coaches who bring new ideas and up to date methods. Winning a club league or championship means something to clubs and players, so they put in effort. And I don't mean counties like Kilkenny or Limerick or Tyrone or Armagh, I mean Wicklow, Waterford, Westmeath, Laois, Clare.
In Wexford, lads don't train from December or January, they play soccer until March/April then turn up. Underage coaching has plenty of effort put in here, but is behind what other counties are doing. Some of the S&C's and fitness lads going around the clubs in Wexford are useless, and if players are playing soccer until March they are really limited in what they can do anyway. Adult coaching in Wexford, of hurling and football, is quite frankly just poor. People whine about football / hurling competing for training time, but the standard of coaching is bad from senior level all the way down, so the football-hurling thing is a red herring. Outside coaches are not up to the standard of what clubs in other counties are bringing in, a lot of which is due to our geographic location (we are hours from Dublin or other good football counties, we are only really adjacent to Kilkenny and Waterford in hurling, neither of which are producing many top coaches). Internal Wexford coaches are generally not up to it and are years behind, with a couple of exceptions. Winning a club league means nothing in Wexford, which frankly is pathetic. Winning a club championship doesn't mean a whole lot - players and clubs aren't thinking about winning a championship from the previous Halloween, they start thinking about it after St Patrick's Day.
One of the main reasons there has been so much whining about the intercounty season finishing for us already, is that we all know, even subconsciously, that club championship is poor. In Galway or Cork or Tipperary they can't wait for club championship. It means something, the players take it seriously, the clubs are serious and the games then are hell for leather.
icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2576 - 29/05/2025 16:02:58
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Replying To icehonesty: "Club hurling and football is a poor standard in Wexford is probably the biggest issue facing the county. Not the county scene.
In other counties lads are training from December or January for championship. Underage coaching is really important, plenty of resources are put into it at club level. Club players follow gym and conditioning programmes. GAA is their number one sport. Adult coaching is of a really serious standard, including outside coaches who bring new ideas and up to date methods. Winning a club league or championship means something to clubs and players, so they put in effort. And I don't mean counties like Kilkenny or Limerick or Tyrone or Armagh, I mean Wicklow, Waterford, Westmeath, Laois, Clare.
In Wexford, lads don't train from December or January, they play soccer until March/April then turn up. Underage coaching has plenty of effort put in here, but is behind what other counties are doing. Some of the S&C's and fitness lads going around the clubs in Wexford are useless, and if players are playing soccer until March they are really limited in what they can do anyway. Adult coaching in Wexford, of hurling and football, is quite frankly just poor. People whine about football / hurling competing for training time, but the standard of coaching is bad from senior level all the way down, so the football-hurling thing is a red herring. Outside coaches are not up to the standard of what clubs in other counties are bringing in, a lot of which is due to our geographic location (we are hours from Dublin or other good football counties, we are only really adjacent to Kilkenny and Waterford in hurling, neither of which are producing many top coaches). Internal Wexford coaches are generally not up to it and are years behind, with a couple of exceptions. Winning a club league means nothing in Wexford, which frankly is pathetic. Winning a club championship doesn't mean a whole lot - players and clubs aren't thinking about winning a championship from the previous Halloween, they start thinking about it after St Patrick's Day.
One of the main reasons there has been so much whining about the intercounty season finishing for us already, is that we all know, even subconsciously, that club championship is poor. In Galway or Cork or Tipperary they can't wait for club championship. It means something, the players take it seriously, the clubs are serious and the games then are hell for leather." I'd have to absolutely fundamentally disagree here that clubs don't take the club championships seriously, or that winning a championship means nothing.
And I'd have to suspect that anybody who thinks so isn't too closely involved with a championship team themselves.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2897 - 29/05/2025 17:05:21
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Replying To icehonesty: "Club hurling and football is a poor standard in Wexford is probably the biggest issue facing the county. Not the county scene.
In other counties lads are training from December or January for championship. Underage coaching is really important, plenty of resources are put into it at club level. Club players follow gym and conditioning programmes. GAA is their number one sport. Adult coaching is of a really serious standard, including outside coaches who bring new ideas and up to date methods. Winning a club league or championship means something to clubs and players, so they put in effort. And I don't mean counties like Kilkenny or Limerick or Tyrone or Armagh, I mean Wicklow, Waterford, Westmeath, Laois, Clare.
In Wexford, lads don't train from December or January, they play soccer until March/April then turn up. Underage coaching has plenty of effort put in here, but is behind what other counties are doing. Some of the S&C's and fitness lads going around the clubs in Wexford are useless, and if players are playing soccer until March they are really limited in what they can do anyway. Adult coaching in Wexford, of hurling and football, is quite frankly just poor. People whine about football / hurling competing for training time, but the standard of coaching is bad from senior level all the way down, so the football-hurling thing is a red herring. Outside coaches are not up to the standard of what clubs in other counties are bringing in, a lot of which is due to our geographic location (we are hours from Dublin or other good football counties, we are only really adjacent to Kilkenny and Waterford in hurling, neither of which are producing many top coaches). Internal Wexford coaches are generally not up to it and are years behind, with a couple of exceptions. Winning a club league means nothing in Wexford, which frankly is pathetic. Winning a club championship doesn't mean a whole lot - players and clubs aren't thinking about winning a championship from the previous Halloween, they start thinking about it after St Patrick's Day.
One of the main reasons there has been so much whining about the intercounty season finishing for us already, is that we all know, even subconsciously, that club championship is poor. In Galway or Cork or Tipperary they can't wait for club championship. It means something, the players take it seriously, the clubs are serious and the games then are hell for leather." Yeh very hard to keep a player interested all year round when the leagues mean nothing and the championship has no bite. And a drop off in standard is the inevitable outcome as lads know they are training in January for an important knockout game in August/September. Then you've dual clubs getting punished for trying to stay true to the values of the GAA. Something has to change in Wexford.
WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 280 - 29/05/2025 17:28:48
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Replying To icehonesty: "Club hurling and football is a poor standard in Wexford is probably the biggest issue facing the county. Not the county scene.
In other counties lads are training from December or January for championship. Underage coaching is really important, plenty of resources are put into it at club level. Club players follow gym and conditioning programmes. GAA is their number one sport. Adult coaching is of a really serious standard, including outside coaches who bring new ideas and up to date methods. Winning a club league or championship means something to clubs and players, so they put in effort. And I don't mean counties like Kilkenny or Limerick or Tyrone or Armagh, I mean Wicklow, Waterford, Westmeath, Laois, Clare.
In Wexford, lads don't train from December or January, they play soccer until March/April then turn up. Underage coaching has plenty of effort put in here, but is behind what other counties are doing. Some of the S&C's and fitness lads going around the clubs in Wexford are useless, and if players are playing soccer until March they are really limited in what they can do anyway. Adult coaching in Wexford, of hurling and football, is quite frankly just poor. People whine about football / hurling competing for training time, but the standard of coaching is bad from senior level all the way down, so the football-hurling thing is a red herring. Outside coaches are not up to the standard of what clubs in other counties are bringing in, a lot of which is due to our geographic location (we are hours from Dublin or other good football counties, we are only really adjacent to Kilkenny and Waterford in hurling, neither of which are producing many top coaches). Internal Wexford coaches are generally not up to it and are years behind, with a couple of exceptions. Winning a club league means nothing in Wexford, which frankly is pathetic. Winning a club championship doesn't mean a whole lot - players and clubs aren't thinking about winning a championship from the previous Halloween, they start thinking about it after St Patrick's Day.
One of the main reasons there has been so much whining about the intercounty season finishing for us already, is that we all know, even subconsciously, that club championship is poor. In Galway or Cork or Tipperary they can't wait for club championship. It means something, the players take it seriously, the clubs are serious and the games then are hell for leather." Club championship means more to some clubs than others. Here, Clare or anywhere else. Alot of clubs here have fitness and gym targets for their players, even in Intermediate A. Depends alot on the manager in some, but is player driven in others. There are good and bad coaches everywhere in every county. You have some number of generalisations all wrapped up in the one post. And the bottom line is this, most of the people whinging about the county championships finishing in July have vested interests, or little or no interest in club championships. Or both.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16035 - 29/05/2025 18:28:26
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Replying To Pikeman96: "I'd have to absolutely fundamentally disagree here that clubs don't take the club championships seriously, or that winning a championship means nothing.
And I'd have to suspect that anybody who thinks so isn't too closely involved with a championship team themselves." I agree with you.
If anything the opposite is the problem in that many excellent club players have no interest in the county
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3672 - 29/05/2025 19:00:23
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Replying To WexMurph: "Yeh very hard to keep a player interested all year round when the leagues mean nothing and the championship has no bite. And a drop off in standard is the inevitable outcome as lads know they are training in January for an important knockout game in August/September. Then you've dual clubs getting punished for trying to stay true to the values of the GAA. Something has to change in Wexford." Club hurling at all levels is a poor standard What would you expect with the format of preliminary q finals.Some so called hurling genius came up with this plan so a team can win 1 game out of 5 and probably avoid relegation. We need to take fixture decisions away from club. Top 4 in each group into qfinals 2 co finalists promoted Bottom 2 in each groups into relegation finals 2 losers relegated At least that would bring some intensity into the championships and teams would go hell for leather As for underage Get rid of co shields from u16 up It's embarrassing for players to be playing for them You are removing the reality that your not good enough So train harder to win a championship
Spidey1 (Wicklow) - Posts: 17 - 29/05/2025 20:15:55
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