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Replying To Viking66: "Didn't want to stay with it. Always does well for Blackwater." Davy didn't give him many starts tho did he? He put him in when Liam Ryan was unavailable and he got MOM in that particular league game. Shame when lads slip away for whatever reasons
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Replying To Afinestick96: "I see our minors are out again on Saturday . It shows how ridiculous this condensed season is . Is there any chance we have Sean O Brien and Rhys Wickham back and what are our chances against Limerick?" No chance
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Replying To Afinestick96: "I see our minors are out again on Saturday . It shows how ridiculous this condensed season is . Is there any chance we have Sean O Brien and Rhys Wickham back and what are our chances against Limerick?" No chance Limerick beat Tipp who hammered Wexford in challenge game so cant see how we would be Limerick
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Replying To WEX98: "Kildare hurlers one win away from All Ireland preliminary quarter finals" They're a good team. Alot of those lads played on the team that knocked us out at u20.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16027 - 21/05/2025 06:17:17
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Replying To Bryson: "No chance Limerick beat Tipp who hammered Wexford in challenge game so cant see how we would be Limerick" That was one of very few challenge games we lost badly though. And Tipp, who were favourites to win the minor AI, this group having been the best team since they were u14s, failed to win 1 game in Munster.
Our challenge game against Limerick was pretty even, and although I might be remembering this wrong I think we were missing Sean O Brien and Ciaran Gethings weren't we?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16027 - 21/05/2025 06:21:34
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Replying To WEX98: "Kildare hurlers one win away from All Ireland preliminary quarter finals" And we'll be playing them in the league next year, along with Down, Antrim and Carlow
WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 534 - 21/05/2025 06:25:51
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Replying To Bryson: "No chance Limerick beat Tipp who hammered Wexford in challenge game so cant see how we would be Limerick" Big difference in challenge games to what happens in the championship Bryson. Now we more or less have a settled team. In the early part of the season management are experimenting and trying lads in different positions until they reach a consensus of opinion about the shape of the side.
A challenge match is not a barometer for what's going to happen when we get to the business end of things.
Of course it goes without saying that O'Brien in particular and Wickham are massive losses but its up to those who are playing to step up, like they did in the 2nd half against Galway.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 501 - 21/05/2025 06:47:01
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Replying To Bryson: "No chance Limerick beat Tipp who hammered Wexford in challenge game so cant see how we would be Limerick" It will all be on the day. These lads are all u16/u17.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16027 - 21/05/2025 06:58:55
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Replying To Viking66: "Ah ok. Why is that? There's good access and emergency exits from both terraces? So while our official capacity is 18000 in reality it's closer to 14k?" The capasity was said to be 25,000 when the new stand was erected. I think it might have been 2001.
Then health and safety stepped in and brought the capasity back to 18,000. That's 7,000 less. So if its now 14,000 that's 11,000 less than what was originally planned for. That's a huge difference.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 501 - 21/05/2025 07:12:43
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Replying To Doylerwex: "I think it's actually slightly more since 17. Capacity of the stand went up when they put the new seats in." I thought the capasity in the stand with the new seats was less as there are gaps now between seats. When we had the wooden seating people sat closer together on big match days so surely that means less now than before.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 501 - 21/05/2025 07:24:11
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Replying To ElGranSenor: " Replying To Viking66: "My thoughts on your questions-
Why are we underachieving so much as a senior team?- are we actually underachieving with the players we currently have?
Are we getting the best out of the players in the squad?- there are some lads who don't seem to be getting chances in real competitive games.
Why are we struggling to survive in the leinster championship and now demoted to the 2nd tier of the league? - I'm not sure we are struggling to survive in Leinster as such, and we did better in the League than I expected.
Do we have 100% support and commitment of the players towards management? - Think it's pretty good overall.
What can we now do to improve our status. - we need to keep trying to improve our younger players to make up for the gap in players coming through dating back to Davys time.
What are your plans going forward that will bring about us becoming more competitive. - will be interesting to find out what he plans to do.
Is it the case that we lack in quality and quantity and we simply haven't got enough top class players? - we have to develop these. Again it will be interesting to hear his take on this, but in fairness to him he's been giving younger lads plenty of gametime.
Can it be said that we were slow to make changes during games? - definitely, my main criticism of him tbh
Do we need to introduce a new coach so as to get us playing a better system? - not sure, I think part of it is that some of our players haven't the confidence to execute basic enough hurling fast enough. The system we are using isn't complicated, but it needs to be executed better. The players themselves should be working at things like 1st touch by themselves away from training.
Areour training methods too severe as we seem to suffer more than other counties in this regard and should we reexamine the way we train. - Clare were hit worse with injuries than we were. Kilkenny have been missing a good few, Dublin also. Limerick are only getting lads back now. Not sure we are missing more this year tbh.
Is the strength and conditioning working for our younger players as they seem very underdeveloped compared to the rest of the top tier teams.- you have to compare apples to apples, very few other top tier teams have as many 21/22 year olds as we have. And again, it's up to the players themselves to work at this themselves also.
Do you believe we will see an improvement in 2026? If he says no to this question he shouldn't be a manager." I would say we're under-achieving to some extent, only have to look at Dublin under Ó Ceallacháin who seems to have lads playing out of their skin, we haven't been doing that across the board this year"
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 501 - 21/05/2025 07:34:41
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Replying To Magpie2: "Hard to say Afimestick 96.
Will he go with some of the panel that haven't had any gametime and risk getting blown away.
Or will he stick with the guys that have played throughout the round Robin.
It would be good to get a win over the old enemy once again even though it will
be a nothing game as the cats are already in the leinster final and we are going nowhere.
Expecting a small crowd as I can't see too many parting with €25 to see a match of such low Importance." I will be there with very little confidence of a result. Lads talking about Kilkenny taking it easy. They don't do that.
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Replying To Magpie2: "I thought the capasity in the stand with the new seats was less as there are gaps now between seats. When we had the wooden seating people sat closer together on big match days so surely that means less now than before." You would think so but apparently that's not the case.
Where there's no individual seating the health and safety rule is a certain number of people per square metre. That's why the capacity of the park went down from 25k to 18k.
The stand was meant to be 5k but then was reduced.
When the individual seats went in you remove the health and safety equation altogether because they're one seat per person hence capacity went up.
I do know the specifics, that's just what I was told by a current county board official.
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3669 - 21/05/2025 08:59:05
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Replying To Magpie2: " Replying To ElGranSenor: "[quote=Viking66: "My thoughts on your questions-
Why are we underachieving so much as a senior team?- are we actually underachieving with the players we currently have?
Are we getting the best out of the players in the squad?- there are some lads who don't seem to be getting chances in real competitive games.
Why are we struggling to survive in the leinster championship and now demoted to the 2nd tier of the league? - I'm not sure we are struggling to survive in Leinster as such, and we did better in the League than I expected.
Do we have 100% support and commitment of the players towards management? - Think it's pretty good overall.
What can we now do to improve our status. - we need to keep trying to improve our younger players to make up for the gap in players coming through dating back to Davys time.
What are your plans going forward that will bring about us becoming more competitive. - will be interesting to find out what he plans to do.
Is it the case that we lack in quality and quantity and we simply haven't got enough top class players? - we have to develop these. Again it will be interesting to hear his take on this, but in fairness to him he's been giving younger lads plenty of gametime.
Can it be said that we were slow to make changes during games? - definitely, my main criticism of him tbh
Do we need to introduce a new coach so as to get us playing a better system? - not sure, I think part of it is that some of our players haven't the confidence to execute basic enough hurling fast enough. The system we are using isn't complicated, but it needs to be executed better. The players themselves should be working at things like 1st touch by themselves away from training.
Areour training methods too severe as we seem to suffer more than other counties in this regard and should we reexamine the way we train. - Clare were hit worse with injuries than we were. Kilkenny have been missing a good few, Dublin also. Limerick are only getting lads back now. Not sure we are missing more this year tbh.
Is the strength and conditioning working for our younger players as they seem very underdeveloped compared to the rest of the top tier teams.- you have to compare apples to apples, very few other top tier teams have as many 21/22 year olds as we have. And again, it's up to the players themselves to work at this themselves also.
Do you believe we will see an improvement in 2026? If he says no to this question he shouldn't be a manager." I would say we're under-achieving to some extent, only have to look at Dublin under Ó Ceallacháin who seems to have lads playing out of their skin, we haven't been doing that across the board this year"
Dublin hurling is absolutely hopping in both club underage and senior clubs. In the club I'm involved in up here we have 80 u9s alone and we wouldn't be one of the major clubs.
Their club scene is way stronger than ours, look at Dublin clubs record lately. Dublin hurling is on the crest of a wave and its only moving upwards.
FYI their underage intercounty teams train more than once a week. I know Wexford always give em a match underage that's the frustrating thing about it.
If we did everything we could we would compete but it looks like we are half heartedly developing underage teams and ya see the results yourself.
All this the Martins coulda beaten Na Fianna nonsense, they coulda but they didn't. Too much coulda in Wexford hurling unfortunately.
Every club here in Dublin is full of country lads coaching, the population hurling at underage is just off the charts here compared to Wexford.
Something to consider, look at the serious hurlers Dublin footballers have always taken off the hurlers. And it's not like our football team taken a few good hurlers ...Dublin football have taken all star material hurlers and continues to do so. So any close result we have had with them over recent years could have been way worse.
The enthusiasm and gra for hurling up here far exceeds most parts of Wexford and I can only see Dubln go from strength to strength.
Dublin have their house in order and it's a shame we don't seem to
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Replying To Doylerwex: "You would think so but apparently that's not the case.
Where there's no individual seating the health and safety rule is a certain number of people per square metre. That's why the capacity of the park went down from 25k to 18k.
The stand was meant to be 5k but then was reduced.
When the individual seats went in you remove the health and safety equation altogether because they're one seat per person hence capacity went up.
I do know the specifics, that's just what I was told by a current county board official." What is the capacity now?
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Replying To Magpie2: " Replying To ElGranSenor: "[quote=Viking66: "My thoughts on your questions-
Why are we underachieving so much as a senior team?- are we actually underachieving with the players we currently have?
Are we getting the best out of the players in the squad?- there are some lads who don't seem to be getting chances in real competitive games.
Why are we struggling to survive in the leinster championship and now demoted to the 2nd tier of the league? - I'm not sure we are struggling to survive in Leinster as such, and we did better in the League than I expected.
Do we have 100% support and commitment of the players towards management? - Think it's pretty good overall.
What can we now do to improve our status. - we need to keep trying to improve our younger players to make up for the gap in players coming through dating back to Davys time.
What are your plans going forward that will bring about us becoming more competitive. - will be interesting to find out what he plans to do.
Is it the case that we lack in quality and quantity and we simply haven't got enough top class players? - we have to develop these. Again it will be interesting to hear his take on this, but in fairness to him he's been giving younger lads plenty of gametime.
Can it be said that we were slow to make changes during games? - definitely, my main criticism of him tbh
Do we need to introduce a new coach so as to get us playing a better system? - not sure, I think part of it is that some of our players haven't the confidence to execute basic enough hurling fast enough. The system we are using isn't complicated, but it needs to be executed better. The players themselves should be working at things like 1st touch by themselves away from training.
Areour training methods too severe as we seem to suffer more than other counties in this regard and should we reexamine the way we train. - Clare were hit worse with injuries than we were. Kilkenny have been missing a good few, Dublin also. Limerick are only getting lads back now. Not sure we are missing more this year tbh.
Is the strength and conditioning working for our younger players as they seem very underdeveloped compared to the rest of the top tier teams.- you have to compare apples to apples, very few other top tier teams have as many 21/22 year olds as we have. And again, it's up to the players themselves to work at this themselves also.
Do you believe we will see an improvement in 2026? If he says no to this question he shouldn't be a manager." I would say we're under-achieving to some extent, only have to look at Dublin under Ó Ceallacháin who seems to have lads playing out of their skin, we haven't been doing that across the board this year"
Their u12s and younger play in the Dublin throughout the year...their u14s play in Kilkenny oh and they run their own domestic system as well.
What do our do for half the year. The more I keep thinking about Dublin and Kildare the angrier I get. When ya look at all that we are only a Micky mouse county and one that's going to loose our top tier status pretty soon.
We have some great servants snd volunteers and clearly we don't have enough of em. Kildare underage clubs hurling most of year......it clearly matters a lot to the hurling community in that county as they've no problem get the volunteers
So I think a lot of Wexford people take the team for granted and assume we should be better without realising we need everyone to put the effort in and that's just not happening.
Does it really matter to most people in Wexford at all? Clearly not
And personally I can't help I live in Dublin where I do take teams for my local club and have never felt more welcomed.
I can tell you for a fact one of our hurling only clubs turned a willing and good volunteer away from.helping out underage basically because he was a blow in.
Gonna give up the posting for the good of my blood pressure.
It's hard to be optimistic and that's not a dig at any of the great volunteers and players involved. Wel done yo everyone of em and thanks
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Replying To WEXILE: " Replying To Magpie2: "[quote=ElGranSenor: "[quote=Viking66: "My thoughts on your questions-
Why are we underachieving so much as a senior team?- are we actually underachieving with the players we currently have?
Are we getting the best out of the players in the squad?- there are some lads who don't seem to be getting chances in real competitive games.
Why are we struggling to survive in the leinster championship and now demoted to the 2nd tier of the league? - I'm not sure we are struggling to survive in Leinster as such, and we did better in the League than I expected.
Do we have 100% support and commitment of the players towards management? - Think it's pretty good overall.
What can we now do to improve our status. - we need to keep trying to improve our younger players to make up for the gap in players coming through dating back to Davys time.
What are your plans going forward that will bring about us becoming more competitive. - will be interesting to find out what he plans to do.
Is it the case that we lack in quality and quantity and we simply haven't got enough top class players? - we have to develop these. Again it will be interesting to hear his take on this, but in fairness to him he's been giving younger lads plenty of gametime.
Can it be said that we were slow to make changes during games? - definitely, my main criticism of him tbh
Do we need to introduce a new coach so as to get us playing a better system? - not sure, I think part of it is that some of our players haven't the confidence to execute basic enough hurling fast enough. The system we are using isn't complicated, but it needs to be executed better. The players themselves should be working at things like 1st touch by themselves away from training.
Areour training methods too severe as we seem to suffer more than other counties in this regard and should we reexamine the way we train. - Clare were hit worse with injuries than we were. Kilkenny have been missing a good few, Dublin also. Limerick are only getting lads back now. Not sure we are missing more this year tbh.
Is the strength and conditioning working for our younger players as they seem very underdeveloped compared to the rest of the top tier teams.- you have to compare apples to apples, very few other top tier teams have as many 21/22 year olds as we have. And again, it's up to the players themselves to work at this themselves also.
Do you believe we will see an improvement in 2026? If he says no to this question he shouldn't be a manager." I would say we're under-achieving to some extent, only have to look at Dublin under Ó Ceallacháin who seems to have lads playing out of their skin, we haven't been doing that across the board this year"
Dublin hurling is absolutely hopping in both club underage and senior clubs. In the club I'm involved in up here we have 80 u9s alone and we wouldn't be one of the major clubs.
Their club scene is way stronger than ours, look at Dublin clubs record lately. Dublin hurling is on the crest of a wave and its only moving upwards.
FYI their underage intercounty teams train more than once a week. I know Wexford always give em a match underage that's the frustrating thing about it.
If we did everything we could we would compete but it looks like we are half heartedly developing underage teams and ya see the results yourself.
All this the Martins coulda beaten Na Fianna nonsense, they coulda but they didn't. Too much coulda in Wexford hurling unfortunately.
Every club here in Dublin is full of country lads coaching, the population hurling at underage is just off the charts here compared to Wexford.
Something to consider, look at the serious hurlers Dublin footballers have always taken off the hurlers. And it's not like our football team taken a few good hurlers ...Dublin football have taken all star material hurlers and continues to do so. So any close result we have had with them over recent years could have been way worse.
The enthusiasm and gra for hurling up here far exceeds most parts of Wexford and I can only see Dubln go from strength to strength.
Dublin have their house in order and it's a shame we don't seem to"]Having the massive numbers underage that they have is a huge help also. Worth bearing in mind that even Kildare have bigger numbers than we have. Dublin have more than Kilkenny, Galway and Tipp, maybe even Cork.
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Replying To WEXILE: " Replying To Magpie2: "[quote=ElGranSenor: "[quote=Viking66: "My thoughts on your questions-
Why are we underachieving so much as a senior team?- are we actually underachieving with the players we currently have?
Are we getting the best out of the players in the squad?- there are some lads who don't seem to be getting chances in real competitive games.
Why are we struggling to survive in the leinster championship and now demoted to the 2nd tier of the league? - I'm not sure we are struggling to survive in Leinster as such, and we did better in the League than I expected.
Do we have 100% support and commitment of the players towards management? - Think it's pretty good overall.
What can we now do to improve our status. - we need to keep trying to improve our younger players to make up for the gap in players coming through dating back to Davys time.
What are your plans going forward that will bring about us becoming more competitive. - will be interesting to find out what he plans to do.
Is it the case that we lack in quality and quantity and we simply haven't got enough top class players? - we have to develop these. Again it will be interesting to hear his take on this, but in fairness to him he's been giving younger lads plenty of gametime.
Can it be said that we were slow to make changes during games? - definitely, my main criticism of him tbh
Do we need to introduce a new coach so as to get us playing a better system? - not sure, I think part of it is that some of our players haven't the confidence to execute basic enough hurling fast enough. The system we are using isn't complicated, but it needs to be executed better. The players themselves should be working at things like 1st touch by themselves away from training.
Areour training methods too severe as we seem to suffer more than other counties in this regard and should we reexamine the way we train. - Clare were hit worse with injuries than we were. Kilkenny have been missing a good few, Dublin also. Limerick are only getting lads back now. Not sure we are missing more this year tbh.
Is the strength and conditioning working for our younger players as they seem very underdeveloped compared to the rest of the top tier teams.- you have to compare apples to apples, very few other top tier teams have as many 21/22 year olds as we have. And again, it's up to the players themselves to work at this themselves also.
Do you believe we will see an improvement in 2026? If he says no to this question he shouldn't be a manager." I would say we're under-achieving to some extent, only have to look at Dublin under Ó Ceallacháin who seems to have lads playing out of their skin, we haven't been doing that across the board this year"
Dublin hurling is absolutely hopping in both club underage and senior clubs. In the club I'm involved in up here we have 80 u9s alone and we wouldn't be one of the major clubs.
Their club scene is way stronger than ours, look at Dublin clubs record lately. Dublin hurling is on the crest of a wave and its only moving upwards.
FYI their underage intercounty teams train more than once a week. I know Wexford always give em a match underage that's the frustrating thing about it.
If we did everything we could we would compete but it looks like we are half heartedly developing underage teams and ya see the results yourself.
All this the Martins coulda beaten Na Fianna nonsense, they coulda but they didn't. Too much coulda in Wexford hurling unfortunately.
Every club here in Dublin is full of country lads coaching, the population hurling at underage is just off the charts here compared to Wexford.
Something to consider, look at the serious hurlers Dublin footballers have always taken off the hurlers. And it's not like our football team taken a few good hurlers ...Dublin football have taken all star material hurlers and continues to do so. So any close result we have had with them over recent years could have been way worse.
The enthusiasm and gra for hurling up here far exceeds most parts of Wexford and I can only see Dubln go from strength to strength.
Dublin have their house in order and it's a shame we don't seem to"]That's just because Dublin is way bigger than Wexford, their hurlers are poorly supported tbh
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