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Replying To Slowandshortsighted: "Certainly not going to kick anyone while down but here we are 3 weeks into the championship and its get ready for division 1b and next years championship. Its very easy to be wise after the event and as ive said several times keith rossitor is a gentleman. He knew taking on this job that the good crop was coming to an end and it was going to be a few tough days out and patience needed but the talk all week was who was going to mark cathal mannion and i nearly jumped in over the terrace the amount of times he ended up unmarked. Very unlucky with shane reck getting injured before the match but seamus casey decision completely backfired. I cant remember him having the ball in his hand. We spoke all week about running at the galway defense but only done it for a few minutes in the second half. Thankfully antrim have being very poor because i wouldn't like to be playing offally to stay up granted they were also very poor against kk. Its very dissapointing the last 2 matches are dead rubbers. Its depressing and very hard to be positive today. Id be very worried players like Fanning,jippo,chin and kevin foley are in the twilight of their careers i dont know where the next group of leaders will come from. When we look back in hindsight winning just one measley leinster final was a very bad return for a good team.it will be a long time before a leinster title is won again. Thats not being negative its being realistic.veey dissapointing to exit the championship so early" We aren't out yet but it's looking pretty bleak. The main reason we didn't win another Leinster was probably injuries, which our very small panel couldn't deal with. We shouldve used the League in 2018, 2019, 2020 to develop more players maybe, develop a bigger panel. In fairness Keith has been trying to do this, but in the big game he shouldve given Patsy, Cian etc the start, they are the future. A loss like the one we had would be easier to stomach if some of the younger panel members got a good chance to play in a game with good knockout intensity. It would've brought them on alot. Shane was obviously a huge loss, and as you say plenty of hurling people around the county flagged up the need to man mark Cathal Mannion. He's one of the best 5 individual hurlers in Ireland, and has been for a good few years now. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15731 - 11/05/2025 08:20:06 2608307 Link
Replying To WEX98: "You should get that sorted." What needs to happen to us to finish 3rd? alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 476 - 11/05/2025 08:45:50 2608314 Link
Yesterday's game was as if Galway were in third gear and we were stuck in second gear and couldn't get out of it, was a win-or-bust game for us for you'd never have known that by looking at us, there was no sense of urgency. For me, hurling is about intensity moreso than anything else and we didn't come anywhere close to bringing the necessary level yesterday, that's why we got cleaned out of it on breaks Back in the 2024 league, you could see that we were trying to play a certain way but I don't really know what we're at now, seems as if we're going backwards, caused some damage when we ran at them yesterday but didn't run at them near enough, have a team who aren't overly big yet don't seem intent on going short off puck-outs unless the opposition sit off If Mullally were to leave Carlow, he's by far and away the best option, has a proven track record of success and teams getting 100% out of themselves, would know the Wexford scene reasonably well too. I've no qualms about hiring a man from Kilkenny (None of their inter-county sides seem to be interested in him for whatever reason) but it's slim pickings outside of him ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 498 - 11/05/2025 09:24:35 2608325 Link
It's probably worth noting amongst all the doom and gloom but if you look through under-age results in the last 5-10 years, there's generally been a fair gap between us and Dublin and then the likes of Offaly, Westmeath, Laois, Antrim, Carlow, and Kildare (Barring that one really good Offaly side and this year's Laois U20 side). You can say that we're miles off winning an All-Ireland but even without Chin, we should not be that bad that we're in danger of being relegated to Joe McDonagh. Not saying it's not a possibility this year (Remote) or in the next few years but if it is, it'll be more down to chronic under-performance rather than a lack of ability And even ignoring KK and Galway for now and focusing instead on Dublin, it's generally a case that there's not much between us at either U20 or Minor (Even if neither of us tend to regularly beat KK or Galway at those levels), they look like they're going very well and could be in a Leinster Final this year while we're not at the races Also interesting to note that while KK and Galway are traditionally the best in Leinster at Minor and U20, they're not really bringing these players through to Senior. 0 out of KK's U20-winning team in 2022 started against Antrim and then had a look at the really good Galway team that beat our minors in an AISF in 2019 and from that team, Tiernan Killeen was their ony started that day who also started yesterday (Gavin Lee and Colm Molloy came on in 2019 and started yesterday) ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 498 - 11/05/2025 09:47:54 2608334 Link
I'm absolutely deflated after that,Mannion never picked up can't get head around that!!! Never put the slightest bit of pressure on there puckout,so we didn't learn from that!!! How on earth did Seamus Casey start ahead of Bryne,it's proven he's a league hurler and simply can't cope with championship!!! We ran at there defence a total if 6 times and they had no answer we scored 2-1 from it??? Galway are a very poor team Dublin will beat them purely because they will use there pace!!! They finish 3rd for me and get bet out the gate v munster team!!! Chin got well marked yesterday and we were lost for ideas!!! I think the most alarming point is our attitude and fight,our want for work,we got out worked everywhere!!! Very sad to see!!! We are officially in my mind down with antrim and offaly now and I've a feeling some of the older crew will be gone next year or the year after and we are going to be stuck for a while!!! Having said all that we can turn it around,but there needs to be an attitude shift for certain from players first to give it everything on game day regardless of how it's going,and we need to find our identity again,above all we need to get comfortable in a few different styles of play!!! All is lost for this year but maybe it's the start of a new generation of players and building slowly!!! We need to build confidence and I think division 2 will be a starting point of a long and probably slow process of trying to get back competitive!! I'm struggling to hold on the the little bit of hope I have going forward,but I think we can get back theboys (Wexford) - Posts: 263 - 11/05/2025 10:08:38 2608344 Link
Replying To alwaysasub: "What needs to happen to us to finish 3rd?" Dublin will have to beat Kk, wexford will have to beat Offally and Kk, this means we go ahead of KK on head to head, maybe a miracle now!! fathermurphy (Wexford) - Posts: 330 - 11/05/2025 10:15:44 2608347 Link
Also have to remember that our good 2017-2021 sides were backboned by the U21-winning teams from 2013-2015 However, Leinster was very weak back then, Galway weren't allowed to compete, Offaly weren't at the races, and those 2013-2015 KK U21 teams were desperate. We were able to win Leinster but we still couldn't really touch either Clare or Limerick Those 2022-'23 U20 teams might not have won Leinster but they only lost by 1 to KK and 2 to Offaly in the Leinster Finals and KK won that AI and Offaly were competitive enough with Cork. IMO, the talent level of our 2022-'23 U20 teams was similar enough to our 2013-'15 U21 teams Have a good base to build around with lads who will be 21-24 next year provided they all commit and all work on their S&C: Joe Barrett (?) Eoin Whelan Eoin Ryan Darragh Kehoe Cian Molloy Conor Foley Darragh Carley Richie Lawlor Corey Byrne-Dunbar Cian Byrne Cillian Byrne Seán Rowley Simon Roche Oisín Pepper Tucker Kinsella Jack Redmond ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 498 - 11/05/2025 10:16:18 2608348 Link
Replying To Viking66: "After our minor defeat to Kilkenny I posted that we looked to be playing a short game for its own sake, rather than using it as a means to an end, getting the ball more accurately into the opposition half to give our forwards the best chance to score. Seems our Seniors are the same." Go direct and we lack lads even willing to properly compete for the ball, not to mind win it. Go short and we lack players with the necessary skills to break tackles and distribute the ball quickly and accurately. Not a great combo! At a minimum, we should expect players to die with their boots on wearing the county jersey. That should be inbuilt into their DNA. We had lads yesterday who didn't put their boots on! Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 403 - 11/05/2025 10:18:36 2608350 Link
Replying To Viking66: "We aren't out yet but it's looking pretty bleak. The main reason we didn't win another Leinster was probably injuries, which our very small panel couldn't deal with. We shouldve used the League in 2018, 2019, 2020 to develop more players maybe, develop a bigger panel. In fairness Keith has been trying to do this, but in the big game he shouldve given Patsy, Cian etc the start, they are the future. A loss like the one we had would be easier to stomach if some of the younger panel members got a good chance to play in a game with good knockout intensity. It would've brought them on alot. Shane was obviously a huge loss, and as you say plenty of hurling people around the county flagged up the need to man mark Cathal Mannion. He's one of the best 5 individual hurlers in Ireland, and has been for a good few years now." Are you saying we didn't man mark Mannion because one player was injured? We didn't man mark Mannion because this management team mark space and then get cut open. WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 507 - 11/05/2025 10:39:55 2608362 Link
Replying To ElGranSenor: "Yesterday's game was as if Galway were in third gear and we were stuck in second gear and couldn't get out of it, was a win-or-bust game for us for you'd never have known that by looking at us, there was no sense of urgency. For me, hurling is about intensity moreso than anything else and we didn't come anywhere close to bringing the necessary level yesterday, that's why we got cleaned out of it on breaks Back in the 2024 league, you could see that we were trying to play a certain way but I don't really know what we're at now, seems as if we're going backwards, caused some damage when we ran at them yesterday but didn't run at them near enough, have a team who aren't overly big yet don't seem intent on going short off puck-outs unless the opposition sit off If Mullally were to leave Carlow, he's by far and away the best option, has a proven track record of success and teams getting 100% out of themselves, would know the Wexford scene reasonably well too. I've no qualms about hiring a man from Kilkenny (None of their inter-county sides seem to be interested in him for whatever reason) but it's slim pickings outside of him" But you have to be used to hurling at an intense level and hurling under pressure. When these lads go back to hurl for their clubs they will go into a championship that's a little above all county league level. Who needs intensity, 5 games with no pressure and nkthjng riding on the results and this is what was actually proposed to develop hurling and agreed on by the clubs!!! Twice! And that's only one of the issues, there's an obsession with games for the sake of games. To be fair to Keith Rossiter and his team how can you really gauge the level of a player from the club championships? Our u20/21 set up is practically non existent and the vast vast majority of wexford hurlers will only be drawn from development and underage squads from a young age, unless you're in from u14 you can forget about it more or less. And lastly it comes down to clubs, like I mentioned in a previous post there's clubs with small picks putting in huge work getting resukts and many are non traditional hurling clubs or strongholds whilst others with much bigger populations providing nothing, we need to look at ourselves first in all honesty imho tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1500 - 11/05/2025 10:40:14 2608364 Link
Replying To Past hurler: "You disagree? You have validated my point with your answer though. Limerick won 4 in a row by carrying the ball out of defence! The difference? Limerick had the players to execute it, Quaid to Finn, Finn to Hannon and Hannon offloads to Hayes who powers up the field or hits a ball into Gillane or Flanagan who can win it high ow low. Wexford want to do that, but can't because the backs don't have the skillset or are too slow under pressure to do it against the elite forwards, who overturn them. Most of the times when the backs did deliver the ball in today, Galways defence ate our forwards alive and came out with the ball. Galway were more up for this game at home with Michael O Donoghue then they were away from Home last under Shefflin." So why persist with a gameplan that emulates that of the best team of this generation when we don't have the players to pull it off? It actually reminds me of Amorim for long passages at United (and forgive me for bringing a comparison to a foreign game into the conversation). Wedded to his 3 at the back system, even though he doesn't have the players to properly implement it. Bad, almost alarming results in the league but a run through Europe that if successful will give him the tools to upgrade and in theory transform the side. But Wexford cannot go out and sign a load of lads, so why keep doing the same things over and over and expect different results? Yesterday, it was obvious our best ploy was to run at Galway, yielded two goals out of it, yet we only did it for a hot minute. Mind boggling. Our club championship is molly-coddled because we can't let a poor ould team with more losses than wins deservedly exit the championship like happens almost everywhere else, and our young lads are exposed to adult hurling too late in their development because the poor craturs might get over-worked (they won't). The hurling fraternity might turn their noses up at the football, but at least they maximise what they have, play to their strengths (even if they have flaws too) and are producing more championship-ready young lads at a more consistent rate than the hurlers. The championship format is a lot more cut-throat too and competitive. At this stage, an external review as to what's going on in the county in terms of structure and development would be no harm. beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1492 - 11/05/2025 10:41:26 2608365 Link
Replying To Past hurler: "You disagree? You have validated my point with your answer though. Limerick won 4 in a row by carrying the ball out of defence! The difference? Limerick had the players to execute it, Quaid to Finn, Finn to Hannon and Hannon offloads to Hayes who powers up the field or hits a ball into Gillane or Flanagan who can win it high ow low. Wexford want to do that, but can't because the backs don't have the skillset or are too slow under pressure to do it against the elite forwards, who overturn them. Most of the times when the backs did deliver the ball in today, Galways defence ate our forwards alive and came out with the ball. Galway were more up for this game at home with Michael O Donoghue then they were away from Home last under Shefflin." I've never seen Limerick hurl like our backs. Limerick draw defenders and create space elsewhere. They force opponents to commit, then offload with a handpass to a free runner. Wexford support play is too slow so the opposition press is aggressive, and it backfires. I only seen this working against Tipp in 2019. 1. Because we had support players running off the shoulder. 2. The Tipp forwards played traditionally. How many times did our backs pass 5 yards to another Wexford back standing still not running off the shoulder. Or run into trouble and turn back towards their own goal. Or didn't know to pass or keep the ball and end up over carrying. How many points did we give away just by throwing the ball away or over carrying. That's nothing to do with basic hurling ability or how we coach underage or how much hurling we do in school. It's because they are forced to play in a certain style. WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 507 - 11/05/2025 10:55:35 2608369 Link
Replying To Viking66: "We aren't out yet but it's looking pretty bleak. The main reason we didn't win another Leinster was probably injuries, which our very small panel couldn't deal with. We shouldve used the League in 2018, 2019, 2020 to develop more players maybe, develop a bigger panel. In fairness Keith has been trying to do this, but in the big game he shouldve given Patsy, Cian etc the start, they are the future. A loss like the one we had would be easier to stomach if some of the younger panel members got a good chance to play in a game with good knockout intensity. It would've brought them on alot. Shane was obviously a huge loss, and as you say plenty of hurling people around the county flagged up the need to man mark Cathal Mannion. He's one of the best 5 individual hurlers in Ireland, and has been for a good few years now." What about Viking as new manager He knows everything about inter county hurling from top to bottom Also has savage knowledge of the club scene Maybe he wouldn't have time as he's very busy on the hoganstand Spidey1 (Wicklow) - Posts: 15 - 11/05/2025 11:16:16 2608373 Link
Don't feel any better today than I did last night about yesterday. People wondering where do we go from here? I don't know, there isn't a short term fix anyway that's for sure, changing manager won't do that either. It feels like we're back around 2010 now…We have a long road ahead of us and things will get worse before they get any better. OpenStandWall (Wexford) - Posts: 258 - 11/05/2025 11:18:22 2608374 Link
Replying To fathermurphy: "Dublin will have to beat Kk, wexford will have to beat Offally and Kk, this means we go ahead of KK on head to head, maybe a miracle now!!" Looks like we shouting for Dublin in Saturday! WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 391 - 11/05/2025 12:24:21 2608396 Link
Replying To tearintom: "But you have to be used to hurling at an intense level and hurling under pressure. When these lads go back to hurl for their clubs they will go into a championship that's a little above all county league level. Who needs intensity, 5 games with no pressure and nkthjng riding on the results and this is what was actually proposed to develop hurling and agreed on by the clubs!!! Twice! And that's only one of the issues, there's an obsession with games for the sake of games. To be fair to Keith Rossiter and his team how can you really gauge the level of a player from the club championships? Our u20/21 set up is practically non existent and the vast vast majority of wexford hurlers will only be drawn from development and underage squads from a young age, unless you're in from u14 you can forget about it more or less. And lastly it comes down to clubs, like I mentioned in a previous post there's clubs with small picks putting in huge work getting resukts and many are non traditional hurling clubs or strongholds whilst others with much bigger populations providing nothing, we need to look at ourselves first in all honesty imho" I don't think us pulling in hurlers from development squads exclusively is really that different to other counties, Kilkenny maybe the exception I don't like the current Championship structure but it's far from the biggest issue we have at senior inter-county level right now ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 498 - 11/05/2025 13:24:23 2608408 Link
Replying To OpenStandWall: "Don't feel any better today than I did last night about yesterday. People wondering where do we go from here? I don't know, there isn't a short term fix anyway that's for sure, changing manager won't do that either. It feels like we're back around 2010 now…We have a long road ahead of us and things will get worse before they get any better." I don't really agree about the 2010 bit, Dublin right now are flying compared to us but it's not because there's a huge talent differential between us, we were miles off it talent-wise in 2010, not saying we're good enough to win an AI but we should be capable of a lot better than what we showed yesterday, should in theory be capable of mixing it with Galway, KK, and Dublin, something we weren't able to do in 2010 (Although could argue they've fallen off since then, especially KK) ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 498 - 11/05/2025 13:28:23 2608410 Link
Replying To ElGranSenor: "I don't really agree about the 2010 bit, Dublin right now are flying compared to us but it's not because there's a huge talent differential between us, we were miles off it talent-wise in 2010, not saying we're good enough to win an AI but we should be capable of a lot better than what we showed yesterday, should in theory be capable of mixing it with Galway, KK, and Dublin, something we weren't able to do in 2010 (Although could argue they've fallen off since then, especially KK)" I agree the 2010 stuff is a bit dramatic but this slip feels the same. Our starting point to a massive rebuild is just a bit better. I am still absolutely devastated to be honest. I do feel better after being out hurling this morning's though. Some brilliant young lads of 7-10 on show. It's up to us to keep them hurling as much as possible. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3586 - 11/05/2025 13:49:54 2608413 Link
@WEXILE why wouldn't you be shouting for us on Sunday regardless?? :) I won't kick you when you are down lads. I listened to some of The Wexford Hurling Podcast and honestly thought some of it was "where are these lads getting their optimism from"? The pundit (I can't remember his name) was very positive but I was of the opinion that they must have seen a different match in Parnell Park. You are all but out but honestly lads watching Clare v Tipp it was a world apart from anything in the Leinster Championship and it was a game with 3rd place on the line. You have to be more realistic as a county lads. I can probably say we given where I am now but we need to face up to the fact that our game needs huge investment in coaching and manpower, not facilities. The game needs to become a 12 month game with using 4G pitches to improve players and provide a year-round game. Colleges hurling needs to be looked at and seriously considered as to how best to take it forward. Hurling needs to become an intrinsic part of school, not an after-thought. No quick solutions and no easy answers but hurlers are made again the side of the house or in the back garden and this is what all parents need to learn and promote. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1337 - 11/05/2025 14:38:37 2608419 Link
Replying To Doylerwex: "I agree the 2010 stuff is a bit dramatic but this slip feels the same. Our starting point to a massive rebuild is just a bit better. I am still absolutely devastated to be honest. I do feel better after being out hurling this morning's though. Some brilliant young lads of 7-10 on show. It's up to us to keep them hurling as much as possible." "I do feel better after being out hurling this morning's though. Some brilliant young lads of 7-10 on show" That's a bit unfair don't you think. Can't you hurl with lads around your own age? Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2774 - 11/05/2025 14:47:09 2608422 Link