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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Rashida ran out of puff again in the last 50m.. she was lucky enough to end 4th..: Hopefully now she can give the relay team a good boost for their final.."
To put some context on the run Rashida gave Friday night.

In the 400m race the Bronze medal winners in the last six Olympics posted times of 49.46, 49.85, 49.72, 49.93, 49.89, 49.72 and Adeleke had a better time in 4th (49.28) and all the more impressive when you consider it was her first Olympic final and is just 21. The sky is the limit for her so long as she can keep injury free for the La Olympics.

Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 241 - 11/08/2024 01:49:58    2564569

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Rashida ran out of puff again in the last 50m.. she was lucky enough to end 4th..: Hopefully now she can give the relay team a good boost for their final.."
Wierd to be so negat8ve about that final performance considering our athletes age etc. It was top class and can't be seen negatively

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3674 - 11/08/2024 09:53:17    2564575

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Wierd to be so negat8ve about that final performance considering our athletes age etc. It was top class and can't be seen negatively"
Top class is right. Imagine the times she'd run, if she had 'whereabout' issues, like the lady who stole silver in the race, and indeed a world gold.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3875 - 11/08/2024 14:00:55    2564592

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Replying To legendzxix:  "So close for the relay team. They all delivered sensational times.
Was it the right decision for two to run the repechage? Might resting have given that bit extra?"
Fair play to you for bring able to spell repishshahge.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3875 - 11/08/2024 14:44:06    2564598

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Amazing performance last night. Took a GB national record to deprive Ireland of a medal. I wish more people here would spell Rhasidat correctly.

Rebel2020 (Cork) - Posts: 90 - 11/08/2024 14:44:42    2564599

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Did the Irish team stay away from otb ? They didn't have any interviews

Kew (Galway) - Posts: 100 - 11/08/2024 22:08:20    2564670

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Why on earth was the closing ceremony flag bearer ( when Wiffen was ill ) given to a person who had already gone home instead of one of the competitors who were still in Paris…? Nonsensical

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 11/08/2024 22:09:50    2564671

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Why on earth was the closing ceremony flag bearer ( when Wiffen was ill ) given to a person who had already gone home instead of one of the competitors who were still in Paris…? Nonsensical"
Ridiculous comment. Why would going home rule him out of carrying the flag? Nothing nonsensical about a double gold medalist being chosen to carry the flag.

greenfan (Donegal) - Posts: 580 - 11/08/2024 23:18:52    2564676

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Why on earth was the closing ceremony flag bearer ( when Wiffen was ill ) given to a person who had already gone home instead of one of the competitors who were still in Paris…? Nonsensical"
Unless the rower has mastered the art bi- location, I am presuming he was back in Paris, presumably to be part of the homecoming event tomorrow ??

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1267 - 12/08/2024 00:51:05    2564682

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Wierd to be so negat8ve about that final performance considering our athletes age etc. It was top class and can't be seen negatively"
Nothing negative about it… just a fact.. She is young and in time will be able to manage her race's better so she doesn't be out of gas in the last 50m.. but that's what happened so no point in denying it…!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 12/08/2024 07:07:50    2564687

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The mixed relay was a strong prospect for a medal. It was understandable that Adeleke focused on her individual but fair to say a medal in the mixed relay was sacrificed.
The Dutch have two solid guys. Klaver and Bol drive it on. The Ireland mixed relay has two dependable guys as well. Adeleke and Mawdsley then drive it on. On balance, the best opportunity was sacrificed and left behind.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8287 - 12/08/2024 09:03:57    2564696

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Why on earth was the closing ceremony flag bearer ( when Wiffen was ill ) given to a person who had already gone home instead of one of the competitors who were still in Paris…? Nonsensical"
Do you just find random things to be angry about? Painful.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8155 - 12/08/2024 10:45:54    2564714

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Do you just find random things to be angry about? Painful."
The blue in his username refers to his mood not his county

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12200 - 12/08/2024 10:58:54    2564719

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Replying To legendzxix:  "The mixed relay was a strong prospect for a medal. It was understandable that Adeleke focused on her individual but fair to say a medal in the mixed relay was sacrificed.
The Dutch have two solid guys. Klaver and Bol drive it on. The Ireland mixed relay has two dependable guys as well. Adeleke and Mawdsley then drive it on. On balance, the best opportunity was sacrificed and left behind."
The difference is Adeleke would have run mixed relay if we had got to the final. Bol didn't run for Dutch in heats either but they have stronger replacements that us. Opportunity wasn't sacrificed as you hardly expected Adeleke to run two 400m races before her own individual races. The main reason we didn't get to the final is because our men ran slow times. If we are to compete at the global stage in the mixed relay we will need to get our men to go sub 45 seconds in their splits.

I fully expected Adeleke to medal in the individual. I knew she was never going to catch Paulino but I thought she might have finished ahead of Kaczmarek as she would have learned from the European final. Pryce from Jamaica was the other threat for a medal but her legs gave in and she had a very poor semi final. I never expected Salwa Eid Naser to run as fast as she did because she hasn't run anywhere near the times she ran in the semi and final since before her drug whereabouts ban in 2019. I think this is why the Irish media from OTB and The 42 questioned her after the final because her times had improved so much!

Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 514 - 12/08/2024 11:07:29    2564722

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Brilliant Paris Olympics for our Irish team. 7 Medals and so many close calls!!! At one stage I though we had a great chance to get 10 medal. Below are all the close calls and near misses that could have made a brilliant Paris Olympics even more brilliant.

Ciara Mageean not running. Bell who won Bronze came 2nd to Mageean in Europeans 2 months ago.
Womens Relay finishing 4th.
Rhasidat Adeleke finishing 4th.
Nhat Nguyen losing to gold medal winner.
Daina Moorehouse and Aoife O'Rourke losing in dodgey judging decisions. Jack Marley losing QF.
Liam Jegou hitting last poll in Men's C-1 Canoe slalom which would have gave him Sliver Medal.
Shane Sweetnam and Daniel Coyle very unlucky not to medal in Jumping final.
Cian O'Connor ride in the jumping team final let us down for Bronze medal.
Rory McIlroy - one shot into the water cost him a medal.
Ireland men's Rugby sevens a bad decision not to take points in last group came cost them a chance at a medal. They were unlucky not to have even beat Fiji in QF.
Men's 49er Sailing a false start in the medal race cost them a medal.
Ben Healy in the leading group gave us hope we might get a cycling medal.
Lara Gillespie in the Omnium was 5th going into the last race.

Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 514 - 12/08/2024 11:23:39    2564724

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Replying To Temple56:  "The difference is Adeleke would have run mixed relay if we had got to the final. Bol didn't run for Dutch in heats either but they have stronger replacements that us. Opportunity wasn't sacrificed as you hardly expected Adeleke to run two 400m races before her own individual races. The main reason we didn't get to the final is because our men ran slow times. If we are to compete at the global stage in the mixed relay we will need to get our men to go sub 45 seconds in their splits.

I fully expected Adeleke to medal in the individual. I knew she was never going to catch Paulino but I thought she might have finished ahead of Kaczmarek as she would have learned from the European final. Pryce from Jamaica was the other threat for a medal but her legs gave in and she had a very poor semi final. I never expected Salwa Eid Naser to run as fast as she did because she hasn't run anywhere near the times she ran in the semi and final since before her drug whereabouts ban in 2019. I think this is why the Irish media from OTB and The 42 questioned her after the final because her times had improved so much!"
If someone runs faster than you at the Euros a month ago, why would you expect to 'learn' how to run faster than them a month later? You might, but equally you might not. You thought she might, I thought she mightn't.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3875 - 12/08/2024 11:34:40    2564728

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Replying To Temple56:  "The difference is Adeleke would have run mixed relay if we had got to the final. Bol didn't run for Dutch in heats either but they have stronger replacements that us. Opportunity wasn't sacrificed as you hardly expected Adeleke to run two 400m races before her own individual races. The main reason we didn't get to the final is because our men ran slow times. If we are to compete at the global stage in the mixed relay we will need to get our men to go sub 45 seconds in their splits.

I fully expected Adeleke to medal in the individual. I knew she was never going to catch Paulino but I thought she might have finished ahead of Kaczmarek as she would have learned from the European final. Pryce from Jamaica was the other threat for a medal but her legs gave in and she had a very poor semi final. I never expected Salwa Eid Naser to run as fast as she did because she hasn't run anywhere near the times she ran in the semi and final since before her drug whereabouts ban in 2019. I think this is why the Irish media from OTB and The 42 questioned her after the final because her times had improved so much!"
Sonia O'Sullivan is passing off too much blame there. The Dutch got to the final without Bol. It is harsh to blame men for Ireland not making the final without Adeleke.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8287 - 12/08/2024 12:59:55    2564752

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Do you just find random things to be angry about? Painful."
Without a doubt, the
most miserable, begrudging poster on HS.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1990 - 12/08/2024 13:31:05    2564758

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Replying To legendzxix:  "The mixed relay was a strong prospect for a medal. It was understandable that Adeleke focused on her individual but fair to say a medal in the mixed relay was sacrificed.
The Dutch have two solid guys. Klaver and Bol drive it on. The Ireland mixed relay has two dependable guys as well. Adeleke and Mawdsley then drive it on. On balance, the best opportunity was sacrificed and left behind."
The bread and butter for any athlete is their individual event. Their professional contracts are almost exclusively based based on their performances in individual events.
While relays are nice, these are individual athletes who have trained for years in an individual sport to perform in their event. Rhasidat is a young athlete at her first Olympics. She doesn't have much experience going through the rounds yet. Her priority is to give herself the best chance of performing in her own event.
She and her coach felt that running the mixed relay before her own event wasn't the best for this. Kaczmarek didn't run in either the heats or the final of the mixed relay. Poland qualified for the final without her, but she still decided not to run in it. She will say the decision paid off.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2187 - 12/08/2024 13:53:08    2564764

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Sonia O'Sullivan is passing off too much blame there. The Dutch got to the final without Bol. It is harsh to blame men for Ireland not making the final without Adeleke."
I thought O'Sullivan made a highly dubious comment in the aftermath of the Irish mixed relay 4x400 team's performance. It was "we need more men capable of running sub-45 seconds".

She wasn't even picked up on it. But imagine the uproar if a male pundit said "we need more women capable of running sub-50 seconds".

Disclaimer: I might have the figures of 45 and 50 incorrect, but the point stands.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2621 - 12/08/2024 14:03:25    2564768

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