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Clare V Cork - All Ireland Hurling Final 2024

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "It's a tough game to predict. Logic would suggest that Cork will win as if both teams play like they did in semi Clare will be blown out of it but no game is ever the same. We have beaten Cork the last 3 times we have played and that could be a positive or negative. The hype will be ridiculous in Cork over the next 2 weeks. It will be bad enough here too. Really refreshing to have a new winner this year. 1 team who hasn't won it in 19 years and 1 team that hasn't won it in 11. I can't wait. There is going to be war for tickets." Peter Duggan had a man of match performance against Cork last time out. His aerial ability is unmatched and he'll have to be watched. I suspect Joyce will be on him. Kelly, O' Donnell and Taylor are other headaches!No wonder bookies have this game at evens! Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 364 - 11/07/2024 11:04:48 2558346 Link
Getting into the match ups it seems like a big one for Clare is Darragh Fitz. Realistically only David Fitzgerald would be able for him on the basis that Ryan Taylor is kept on the bench. Davy Fitz has been well below his best this year so it could be the day for him to make amends and put in a MOTM performance in the final. I remember David Burke had a very poor semi final in 2017 against Tipp and then won MOTM in the final. Cathal Malone doesn't have the legs for him and if Ryan Taylor does start I feel like Malone will be the man to miss out. Clare will need much improved half back line performance (Conlon and Ryan) than in the semi final. In the first half the pair of them where very poor. Conlon (whom I am a big fan of) had a huge amount of time on the ball to only then play really poor quality stuff into his forwards. D Ryan was very wasteful and taking on shots he shouldn't have been. He must have had 3 wides in the first half alone. mr305 (Galway) - Posts: 50 - 11/07/2024 11:22:28 2558349 Link
Replying To mr305: "Getting into the match ups it seems like a big one for Clare is Darragh Fitz. Realistically only David Fitzgerald would be able for him on the basis that Ryan Taylor is kept on the bench. Davy Fitz has been well below his best this year so it could be the day for him to make amends and put in a MOTM performance in the final. I remember David Burke had a very poor semi final in 2017 against Tipp and then won MOTM in the final. Cathal Malone doesn't have the legs for him and if Ryan Taylor does start I feel like Malone will be the man to miss out. Clare will need much improved half back line performance (Conlon and Ryan) than in the semi final. In the first half the pair of them where very poor. Conlon (whom I am a big fan of) had a huge amount of time on the ball to only then play really poor quality stuff into his forwards. D Ryan was very wasteful and taking on shots he shouldn't have been. He must have had 3 wides in the first half alone." While I think David Fitzgerald is a weapon for Clare from an attacking perspective, I wouldn't put him marking Darragh Fitzgibbon. He is the kind of player who needs to be marked rather than the player doing the marking. In the Munster final a couple of times after getting forward, he tuned out from his defensive responsibilities and Limerick got two scores on turnovers largely because Fitzgerald out of position. If Darragh Fitz gets the same opportunities he could do serious damage. I would put Taylor in from the start. I have to wonder how much of a factor was the wind in Croke Park last Saturday. Clare's distribution in the first half was woeful and Kilkenny in the second half was something similar. In both instances the balls from the half backs were dropping well short of their intended targets. Conlan and Ryan are usually excellent strikers of the ball, so something must have been a little off. LimerickandProud (Limerick) - Posts: 94 - 11/07/2024 14:22:08 2558396 Link
Not sure how well these match ups work and how they influence the final result. The player not considered for watching becomes a match winner. All these players are so good anymore. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2864 - 11/07/2024 14:46:19 2558403 Link
Not sure how well these match ups work and how they influence the final result. The player not considered for watching becomes a match winner. All these players are so good anymore. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2864 - 11/07/2024 14:47:09 2558404 Link
Replying To Canuck: "Not sure how well these match ups work and how they influence the final result. The player not considered for watching becomes a match winner. All these players are so good anymore." That's correct Canuck, and that's exactly how they do work. The fella's expected to be rampant get all the attention, thus leaving the unexpected happen.. bloodandbandage (Cork) - Posts: 348 - 11/07/2024 14:55:36 2558406 Link
Replying To Canuck: "Not sure how well these match ups work and how they influence the final result. The player not considered for watching becomes a match winner. All these players are so good anymore." Clare will be feeling confident, having won last 3 head to head games. O' Donnell always likes playing Cork and Tony Kelly is improving game by game. Cork will have to perform out of their skins, probably are perceived as underdogs, but it's a final with the big prize on offer. Great game in store! Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 364 - 11/07/2024 15:34:02 2558412 Link
Replying To Ryanteam: "Clare will be feeling confident, having won last 3 head to head games. O' Donnell always likes playing Cork and Tony Kelly is improving game by game. Cork will have to perform out of their skins, probably are perceived as underdogs, but it's a final with the big prize on offer. Great game in store!" Cork 8/11 favourites and rightly so. Leave the cuteness to the Kerry boys! BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3064 - 11/07/2024 16:09:22 2558416 Link
Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "I certainly don't want a draw first day out as I am in Tenerife the following week" Will it go to extra time if its a draw? Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4464 - 11/07/2024 19:58:48 2558450 Link
Replying To Oldtourman: "Will it go to extra time if its a draw?" I don't think so LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2679 - 11/07/2024 21:09:13 2558461 Link
Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "I don't think so" Not unless they have booked in a Spice Girls tribute band for the weekend following :-) BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3064 - 12/07/2024 08:15:12 2558483 Link
Replying To Oldtourman: "Will it go to extra time if its a draw?" I think so. bloodandbandage (Cork) - Posts: 348 - 12/07/2024 08:33:03 2558485 Link
Replying To Ryanteam: "Clare will be feeling confident, having won last 3 head to head games. O' Donnell always likes playing Cork and Tony Kelly is improving game by game. Cork will have to perform out of their skins, probably are perceived as underdogs, but it's a final with the big prize on offer. Great game in store!" I am looking forward to it. Would not be for the big three but Cork more than the others. Cork play the game fair and as proved the last day do not need to imitate anyone. Never for outside managers but do not include the two McCarthys in this. They came to Waterford for the love of the game and to Improve us. This they did. It is a terrible embarrassment what some of our elite players did to Justin. Also Cork supporters hailed us across the Youghal bridge that famous night. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2864 - 12/07/2024 16:09:42 2558593 Link
Both teams are evenly matched, BUT Corks pace is astonishing and no county can compete!! The crowd, quite simply this park will be 80% red and white!! The link between players and crowd, almost partisan like is worth a 10 pt lead! So on paper a 50/50 game in reality can only deliver one winner! LimerickForLiam24 (Limerick) - Posts: 133 - 14/07/2024 00:17:16 2558859 Link
Replying To LimerickForLiam24: "Both teams are evenly matched, BUT Corks pace is astonishing and no county can compete!! The crowd, quite simply this park will be 80% red and white!! The link between players and crowd, almost partisan like is worth a 10 pt lead! So on paper a 50/50 game in reality can only deliver one winner!" Please keep tipping Cork. I love it. Even your choice of user name screwed your own team LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2679 - 14/07/2024 09:14:12 2558892 Link
Replying To bloodandbandage: "I think so." Saw this online relating to last year:- As for the final, the winner-on-the-day rule no longer applies so if the game ends in a draw, we'll be heading back to Croke Park on Saturday 5 August (the August bank holiday weekend). So unless the rule changed since last year it is a replay of level after 70 minutes LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2679 - 14/07/2024 09:17:18 2558893 Link
Replying To Canuck: "I am looking forward to it. Would not be for the big three but Cork more than the others. Cork play the game fair and as proved the last day do not need to imitate anyone. Never for outside managers but do not include the two McCarthys in this. They came to Waterford for the love of the game and to Improve us. This they did. It is a terrible embarrassment what some of our elite players did to Justin. Also Cork supporters hailed us across the Youghal bridge that famous night." Wasn't too impressed by Corks famous supporters last Sunday. Their constant booing and jeering of our free takers was just ridiculous. That aside, they played brilliantly and were well worth their win. We looked a bit flat and Corks pace tore us to shreds. The final will be a different proposition and I have a sneaking suspicion Clare will edge it. No more than the psychological lift Cork got from beating us, Clares win against Kilkenny can't be underestimated . Clare by 2pts.. skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1103 - 14/07/2024 09:50:18 2558901 Link
Replying To LimerickForLiam24: "Both teams are evenly matched, BUT Corks pace is astonishing and no county can compete!! The crowd, quite simply this park will be 80% red and white!! The link between players and crowd, almost partisan like is worth a 10 pt lead! So on paper a 50/50 game in reality can only deliver one winner!" Your 80% crowd did not achieve a whole lot in 13. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4464 - 14/07/2024 11:02:50 2558918 Link
Replying To Oldtourman: "Your 80% crowd did not achieve a whole lot in 13." I'd say KK are always outnumbered on the big days and in general it never affected them. Cork will outnumber us that's a given but not by much. It's expected when you have 2 team from a county with 480000 people and one with 130000 LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2679 - 14/07/2024 11:07:38 2558920 Link
Replying To LimerickForLiam24: "Both teams are evenly matched, BUT Corks pace is astonishing and no county can compete!! The crowd, quite simply this park will be 80% red and white!! The link between players and crowd, almost partisan like is worth a 10 pt lead! So on paper a 50/50 game in reality can only deliver one winner!" 80% red and white? This is an AI final, not a semi-final. Tickets are distributed to all counties around the country. Even with the best will in the world, Cork supporters are not going to get their hands on over 65,000 tickets. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2652 - 14/07/2024 13:38:03 2558951 Link