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Replying To skillet: "Ah will you stop. He misses a jersey pull. Murphy had a fine performance. Hurling today was phenomenal but should have been a replay. Clare deserved to win over the 90+ minutes." He missed a lot more than that…. Cork had a clear penalty which would have resulted in a black card only for Murphy to bottle it…He missed a blatant free in to Cork which led to Clare going 3 up near the end of et… should have been down to a 1pt game..And before someone brings up the line ball that went to Cork .. that was the linesman's call and nothing to do with Murphy… To hear the woeful RTE panel heaping praise on the referee and at the same time showing his errors was laughable…. Murphy in the end ruined what was a brilliant game of hurling that deserved to go to a second day… Well done to Clare on their victory ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2970 - 22/07/2024 09:43:05 2560491 Link
I just wanted to come on here today as a hurling man and congratulate both Clare and Cork on a fantastic game yesterday. Even as a neutral that match got the heart rate going and is a reminder as to why hurling is the best game in the world. As a Limerick man I want to especially congratulate our nearest neighbours Clare and their supporters on a fantastic win yesterday. They did something Limerick failed to do this year and beat a very good Cork team. To the Clare supporters (especially those in Cratloe, Clonlara and the edge of Limerick City) please try and keep the noise down when your celebrating this winter, as our players and supporters are trying to get some well earned rest, so we can get ready to try and wrestle back Liam McCarthy back to this side of the Shannon in 2025 ;) :) :) LimerickandProud (Limerick) - Posts: 94 - 22/07/2024 09:46:38 2560494 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "He missed a lot more than that…. Cork had a clear penalty which would have resulted in a black card only for Murphy to bottle it…He missed a blatant free in to Cork which led to Clare going 3 up near the end of et… should have been down to a 1pt game..And before someone brings up the line ball that went to Cork .. that was the linesman's call and nothing to do with Murphy… To hear the woeful RTE panel heaping praise on the referee and at the same time showing his errors was laughable…. Murphy in the end ruined what was a brilliant game of hurling that deserved to go to a second day… Well done to Clare on their victory" I feel sorry for you. It must be shocking being so bitter about everything in our wonderful association Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1884 - 22/07/2024 09:56:17 2560501 Link
Fair play to both sides on an almighty game of hurling yesterday. It was phenomenal stuff. I have a lot of family in the UK and they were saying friends, etc were gripped by the game. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1256 - 22/07/2024 10:01:53 2560505 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "He missed a lot more than that…. Cork had a clear penalty which would have resulted in a black card only for Murphy to bottle it…He missed a blatant free in to Cork which led to Clare going 3 up near the end of et… should have been down to a 1pt game..And before someone brings up the line ball that went to Cork .. that was the linesman's call and nothing to do with Murphy… To hear the woeful RTE panel heaping praise on the referee and at the same time showing his errors was laughable…. Murphy in the end ruined what was a brilliant game of hurling that deserved to go to a second day… Well done to Clare on their victory" I've never seen so much time dedicated to analysis without there actually been any constructive analysis. I thought Clare were the better team in normal time and if they were more efficient in front of goal, they'd have won the game in normal time. They made life difficult for themselves by shooting from distance and clocking up wide after wide; Cork were more efficient with their chances. I thought the referee got a number of key decisions wrong as pointed out by other posters. Personally, I think the reason that a penalty wasn't award is due to the fact that there was a Clare defender plus the goalkeeper after the Cork player was fouled but if that isn't a black card then I don't see what is a black card. If RTE are going to dedicate over one hour before the game, time after the game and another ninety minutes on the Sunday Game to analysis then that is exactly what they should do. Two points on the pundits - why do RTE insist on having pundits on the panel from the competing counties? And why is there a need for 6-8 analysts on the Sunday Game? it would be much better to have a couple of neutral analysts doing properly analysis. The theme seems to be to give out plaudits to everyone under the sun, even limerick were given more plaudits last night. Will there be change in 2025? I don't hold my breath. wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 2014 - 22/07/2024 10:02:44 2560506 Link
Replying To CiarraiMick: "Enjoy and forget the begrudgers.I had Cork backedbut Clare deserved the win.A few dodgy decosions but that happend on every final.Ask Mayo.Even the shout for Cork penalty sholud nt have hapoened as it shoild have been free into Clare other end forst for foul on Shanagher" Good post, Mick. Of course, like every referee, Johnny didn't get everything right, but as someone who would have been critical of him in the past, I thought he did a very god job. You are correct about the free against Shanagher, and indeed Shanagher seemed to be fouled later at the Cusack side just before Cork got a free which Horgan pointed, but we could go on all day about marginal calls both ways. Of course a replay would have been welcomed by everyone (except Clare) but the Cork manager and Donal Og were both very gracious in their comments. Cork's team are only just starting out and I'm sure they will use the hurt of this defeat to drive them on to All-Ireland success. midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 581 - 22/07/2024 10:11:23 2560510 Link
It was interesting that Limerick couldn't shore up the Barrett, Harnedy, Hayes triangle in two attempts this season. In contrast, Clare did stymie them somewhat, which gave them the foothold to pip the allireland final. A Limerick Cork Clare 'mini league' from this year's championship shows 2 wins and 2 losses for each team, and similar scoring differences. Remarkably tight margins in 2024 between those 3 sides. Lovely to see a special player like Tony Kelly deliver such special stuff yesterday on the biggest stage. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3857 - 22/07/2024 10:34:08 2560517 Link
Replying To Claretandblue: "I feel sorry for you. It must be shocking being so bitter about everything in our wonderful association" Not bitter at all…. Saying it as it is opposed to the shivering RTE panel that have to read of script in case they upset someone…. The game was wonderful but ultimately ruined by a couple of bad decisions by the referee…. Everyone knows it so don't be a wallflower and just say it… Clare were indeed the better team on the day but it's a pity we are not getting the opportunity for another great day out… I'd say that the GAA money men are scratching their heads in disbelief with Murphy…… ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2970 - 22/07/2024 11:03:37 2560527 Link
Congratulations to both teams on a brilliant game of hurling, coming to the end I was hoping for a draw so we could have another spectacle in two weeks time. I would love to see the hurling final pushed back a few weeks , mad to think we are still in July and the inter- county hurling is over for another year. tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 331 - 22/07/2024 11:13:01 2560531 Link
Replying To CTGAA10: "I'm wondering who or where is limerickforliam from??is it possibly the bitter Galway poster under another name..from now on actually ignore." Thanks Folks for all the nice comments on yesterdays final, Great occasion, great game, the drama was unreal felt for Robbie at the end it was a foul alright maybe Cork would have deserved a draw. The Cork fans around us were gracious but devastated as you would expect good times are ahead after winning so much underage. Cork may not agree but thought that Johnnie Murphy did very well and congratulations to him and his officials so many cameras now but he cant see everything. We only have 5 all Irelands but 4 in last 30 years for a small County like Clare that's not too bad cant wait for the Munster championship next year it will be some battle even to get 3rd Spot Limerick and Cork will already be raging hot favourites for honours next year clooney (Clare) - Posts: 960 - 22/07/2024 11:30:22 2560540 Link
Replying To wicklowsupport: "I've never seen so much time dedicated to analysis without there actually been any constructive analysis. I thought Clare were the better team in normal time and if they were more efficient in front of goal, they'd have won the game in normal time. They made life difficult for themselves by shooting from distance and clocking up wide after wide; Cork were more efficient with their chances. I thought the referee got a number of key decisions wrong as pointed out by other posters. Personally, I think the reason that a penalty wasn't award is due to the fact that there was a Clare defender plus the goalkeeper after the Cork player was fouled but if that isn't a black card then I don't see what is a black card. If RTE are going to dedicate over one hour before the game, time after the game and another ninety minutes on the Sunday Game to analysis then that is exactly what they should do. Two points on the pundits - why do RTE insist on having pundits on the panel from the competing counties? And why is there a need for 6-8 analysts on the Sunday Game? it would be much better to have a couple of neutral analysts doing properly analysis. The theme seems to be to give out plaudits to everyone under the sun, even limerick were given more plaudits last night. Will there be change in 2025? I don't hold my breath." And a commentator from a competing county also rte coverage of sports has rapidly gone downhill in general, they probably had 20+ cameras at that game yesterday and were like children with toys using them all, and missing passages of play doing it. eslinchickenmaryland (Leitrim) - Posts: 274 - 22/07/2024 11:40:44 2560544 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "Not bitter at all…. Saying it as it is opposed to the shivering RTE panel that have to read of script in case they upset someone…. The game was wonderful but ultimately ruined by a couple of bad decisions by the referee…. Everyone knows it so don't be a wallflower and just say it… Clare were indeed the better team on the day but it's a pity we are not getting the opportunity for another great day out… I'd say that the GAA money men are scratching their heads in disbelief with Murphy……" It's a sad life you lead when a glorious game was apparently spoiled by a couple of refereeing errors. What's your practical involvement in association? Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1884 - 22/07/2024 11:57:28 2560555 Link
Replying To clooney: "Thanks Folks for all the nice comments on yesterdays final, Great occasion, great game, the drama was unreal felt for Robbie at the end it was a foul alright maybe Cork would have deserved a draw. The Cork fans around us were gracious but devastated as you would expect good times are ahead after winning so much underage. Cork may not agree but thought that Johnnie Murphy did very well and congratulations to him and his officials so many cameras now but he cant see everything. We only have 5 all Irelands but 4 in last 30 years for a small County like Clare that's not too bad cant wait for the Munster championship next year it will be some battle even to get 3rd Spot Limerick and Cork will already be raging hot favourites for honours next year" Spot on regarding Murphy.. Some of the comments about him this morning online and from the likes of Sweeney in the Indo are scandalous.. It's a tough, tough job and the guy made mistakes but to maintain he ruined the game is ridiculous. skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1103 - 22/07/2024 12:14:07 2560563 Link
Replying To Claretandblue: "It's a sad life you lead when a glorious game was apparently spoiled by a couple of refereeing errors. What's your practical involvement in association?" The end result of the game was spoiled you fool… Would you not have liked to see another epic match in a couple of weeks… the referees bad calls robbed us of that… Anyone's practical interest or involvement in anything is nothing whatsoever got to do with you… good lad.. ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2970 - 22/07/2024 12:17:59 2560564 Link
Replying To skillet: "Spot on regarding Murphy.. Some of the comments about him this morning online and from the likes of Sweeney in the Indo are scandalous.. It's a tough, tough job and the guy made mistakes but to maintain he ruined the game is ridiculous." I think what most people mean including myself is that Murphy's mistakes decided the result of the game…. not ruined what was a classic.. He was doing ok until he got that whack on the head… maybe that effected him… The game would have been a draw but for the referee ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2970 - 22/07/2024 12:25:46 2560567 Link
I am so surprised with Donal óg's comments after game on RTE. I don't believe he should be there when Cork are playing and he is not there to represent Cork as he suggests. He is there to analyse the game as a neutral. I am shocked that he and others say the ref had a good game. This was epic hurling and was a relatively easy game to ref. How many people complained about thrown handpasses, high tackles, too many steps in yesterdays game. Very few I would suggest and rightly so. This game was played to the highest standard and fairly by all players and yet the officials could not get the basics correct. The ref seemingly let the game flow. Yes he did and got lucky up until near the end as the bulk of the infringements that were let go resulted in scores for the fouled player so he did not have to get criticised for not calling it back. How many times did his arm go up on those occasions? Very few from looking on the TV.Sometimes in fairness to a hurling ref you can be a long way from the play with the speed the game is played at today but lets face it, the last play was a free taken by the Cork goalie in his own half with time up and the ref took up his position very well as he knew where the ball was going to drop. He was there and within 15 yards with no obstructive view of the catch and jersey pull and let play continue like he did all day but except this time the score did not materialise. Did he call it back ? no. Was he being consistent? Unfortunately for Cork. Yes. If I was refereeing such an epic game and possibly the best All Ireland Final ever and time was up and a team a point down I would be looking for any excuse to give a free so that we all could experience iot all over again in a few weeks. These players and managements deserve better. Did Clare agree to a replay v Offaly back in the 1990s due to referee error or am I dreaming? Hurlingpurist (Meath) - Posts: 2 - 22/07/2024 12:26:02 2560568 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "I think what most people mean including myself is that Murphy's mistakes decided the result of the game…. not ruined what was a classic.. He was doing ok until he got that whack on the head… maybe that effected him… The game would have been a draw but for the referee" Ah I don't know. Clare mightve won it by more either. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13652 - 22/07/2024 12:39:46 2560579 Link
Replying To eslinchickenmaryland: "And a commentator from a competing county also rte coverage of sports has rapidly gone downhill in general, they probably had 20+ cameras at that game yesterday and were like children with toys using them all, and missing passages of play doing it." Thought Marty did quite a professional job , got a bit emotional after TK's wonder goal but did well overall. He captured the excitement a lot better than the BBC commentator , their coverage seemed to filter out the crowd noise which was a big part of the occasion. Both presentations of yesterday's epic were very enjoyable Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 577 - 22/07/2024 12:50:38 2560584 Link
Replying To Hurlingpurist: "I am so surprised with Donal óg's comments after game on RTE. I don't believe he should be there when Cork are playing and he is not there to represent Cork as he suggests. He is there to analyse the game as a neutral. I am shocked that he and others say the ref had a good game. This was epic hurling and was a relatively easy game to ref. How many people complained about thrown handpasses, high tackles, too many steps in yesterdays game. Very few I would suggest and rightly so. This game was played to the highest standard and fairly by all players and yet the officials could not get the basics correct. The ref seemingly let the game flow. Yes he did and got lucky up until near the end as the bulk of the infringements that were let go resulted in scores for the fouled player so he did not have to get criticised for not calling it back. How many times did his arm go up on those occasions? Very few from looking on the TV.Sometimes in fairness to a hurling ref you can be a long way from the play with the speed the game is played at today but lets face it, the last play was a free taken by the Cork goalie in his own half with time up and the ref took up his position very well as he knew where the ball was going to drop. He was there and within 15 yards with no obstructive view of the catch and jersey pull and let play continue like he did all day but except this time the score did not materialise. Did he call it back ? no. Was he being consistent? Unfortunately for Cork. Yes. If I was refereeing such an epic game and possibly the best All Ireland Final ever and time was up and a team a point down I would be looking for any excuse to give a free so that we all could experience iot all over again in a few weeks. These players and managements deserve better. Did Clare agree to a replay v Offaly back in the 1990s due to referee error or am I dreaming?" On the other hand, paying GAA customers have had contempt for referees engineering tight games into draws in all my time too. If you're a referee, you can't win, unless you're fair, unbiased, and lucky enough to get an entire game to pass without a contentious incident. Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3857 - 22/07/2024 12:52:24 2560585 Link
Not the refs job to give us another day out In the bad old days (and there were some bad days in bygone eras you could rely on a ref to let them play away until you had a draw I see some criticism of the ref who "spoiled a classic" - why do you think it was a classic? A spoiled journalist on a rag of a newspaper saying the ref "decided" to not give Cork a last minute free- he did no such thing, he missed it, simple as. And yes it was a free and should have been seen but it wasn't. And Flynn got his shot away, and missed. And the biased analyst from Cork that so many here are complaining about said exactly that and said that wasn't why Cork lost. Fine margins but Clare played their best game of the year yesterday. Cork did not. Cork probably played their third best game of the year. Of the top moments yesterday three or four were Clare's - SOD setting up the first goal, TKs goal, TKs point on extra time, Roger's goal and then for Cork you had Rob Downey goal and maybe Mark Coleman's point. Nobody on the Clare side had a poor game while yesterday a few of Corks team were off (Dalton tried hard but it just wasn't happening, ditto for Connolly). Cork played well, Clare, apart from the first 15 minutes and a few minutes in extra time played better. You can look back on any hurling game and find a few incidents that a game could swing on. You can look back at the last minute and find them. But in this game overall the better team on the day - just about- won Yadse (Limerick) - Posts: 52 - 22/07/2024 12:57:50 2560586 Link