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Replying To alwaysasub:  "What i do like about the league is that teams in a lower grade can move up the grades quite easily. I see Kilmore Junior hurlers playing the Rapparees seniors the other night in the league. Thats great experience for Kilmore."
I agree. While the League still isn't particularly meaningful noone likes to get relegated. If you took promotion and relegation out of it there'd be no point having the Leagues at all.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15329 - 15/03/2025 12:31:16    2596471

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As mentioned before I see clubber will broadcast Wexford matches for three years. Disappointing as I thought Wexford GAA had a good system going

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 473 - 18/03/2025 14:50:52    2597078

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Replying To alwaysasub:  "What i do like about the league is that teams in a lower grade can move up the grades quite easily. I see Kilmore Junior hurlers playing the Rapparees seniors the other night in the league. Thats great experience for Kilmore."
Rapps, at a canter, won by 11 points.

Many might wonder how that match was particularly useful for either side.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2808 - 18/03/2025 15:05:10    2597084

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Rapps, at a canter, won by 11 points.

Many might wonder how that match was particularly useful for either side."
The Alley beat Oylegate by 14 points, we beat Geraldine O'Hanrahans by 13 points, Monageer beat Duffry by 23 points, St Pats beat Marshalstown by 29 points, Gorey beat Crossabeg by 30 points. All those games between clubs playing at the same grade in Championship AFAIK. And all games which you could also say did noone any good. None of those results had anything to do with promotion and relegation being in.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15329 - 18/03/2025 16:14:50    2597097

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Rapps, at a canter, won by 11 points.

Many might wonder how that match was particularly useful for either side."
Sorry the Alley are a grade below Oylegate.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15329 - 18/03/2025 16:15:39    2597098

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Replying To alwaysasub:  "As mentioned before I see clubber will broadcast Wexford matches for three years. Disappointing as I thought Wexford GAA had a good system going"
I actually think it's potentially a very good move. Particularly as Clubber have a season pass that Wexford GAA TV never offered. If you took one out now and used it to watch some of our Minor & U20 Leinster Championship matches in the next couple of months, it'd be well on its way to paying for itself before the club championships even start at all.

My only concern would be whether Clubber will be as committed to club football matches here as they're likely to be to hurling. But Clubber actually make most of their money by selling video analysis packages to clubs after the game, so would be in their own best interests to have as many matches available as possible.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2808 - 18/03/2025 16:16:21    2597100

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Rapps, at a canter, won by 11 points.

Many might wonder how that match was particularly useful for either side."
Its useful for Kilmore, they get to play a team at a higher grade and know what it now takes to get there. Rapps got relegated from Division 1 so its up to them to get promoted.

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 473 - 18/03/2025 16:38:46    2597108

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Replying To alwaysasub:  "Its useful for Kilmore, they get to play a team at a higher grade and know what it now takes to get there. Rapps got relegated from Division 1 so its up to them to get promoted."
Think you and I are perfect examples of the different opinions on the promotion/relegation system :)

Neither right and neither wrong, and both as valid as the other.

Sure there'd be no fun it if everybody agreed all the time!

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2808 - 18/03/2025 16:57:11    2597111

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "I actually think it's potentially a very good move. Particularly as Clubber have a season pass that Wexford GAA TV never offered. If you took one out now and used it to watch some of our Minor & U20 Leinster Championship matches in the next couple of months, it'd be well on its way to paying for itself before the club championships even start at all.

My only concern would be whether Clubber will be as committed to club football matches here as they're likely to be to hurling. But Clubber actually make most of their money by selling video analysis packages to clubs after the game, so would be in their own best interests to have as many matches available as possible."
I'm like you, I have a clubber subscription already, so for me it's great. In fairness they've covered the schools and club football in other counties pretty well, so I don't see why it would be any different for the Wexford club football.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15329 - 18/03/2025 22:28:44    2597163

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3 Rounds of the league played. Martins / Rathnure / Gorey all seem to be going well
Rathnure beat Annes in Rathangan yesterday while Oulart beat Hariers .. 3 wins for Alley also

Anyone at any games

MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 175 - 07/04/2025 09:39:33    2600906

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Just a question, I have been looking online for the competition regulations for the league, can't seem to be find them anywhere which is strange. On the league structure, the top 2 teams in each group go to a semi final, is it the teams that actually top there group get promoted? Also if you come second in your group, and happen to win the league final, do you also get promoted? Just a little confusing. I probably remember when it came out first but had forgotten now.

Also if you come bottom of your group I presume you are relegated? Although if 3 go up, then do 3 go down?

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 473 - 13/04/2025 08:23:48    2601660

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Replying To alwaysasub:  "Just a question, I have been looking online for the competition regulations for the league, can't seem to be find them anywhere which is strange. On the league structure, the top 2 teams in each group go to a semi final, is it the teams that actually top there group get promoted? Also if you come second in your group, and happen to win the league final, do you also get promoted? Just a little confusing. I probably remember when it came out first but had forgotten now.

Also if you come bottom of your group I presume you are relegated? Although if 3 go up, then do 3 go down?"
The current system is a bit of a quare fish all right, with three up and three down, and the way it works is this:

- The top two teams in each group go into League semi-finals.
- However, the semi-finals are not 1 v 2 and 2 v 1, as you'd normally expect. Instead, they're 1 v 1 and 2 v 2.
- This is because the two top teams are automatically promoted, and so the result of their league semi-final doesn't matter from a promotion point of view. It's purely to decide who gets to play in the League Final.
- On the other hand, the 2 v 2 semi-final basically doubles up as a promotion play-off. The winner gets promoted for the following year, and obviously goes through to the final as well.

So to answer your question - yes, if you come second in your group and go on to win the League, you get promoted for the following year. But you're not promoted by virtue of winning the League final. Instead, you're promoted by virtue of having won your semi-final against the other second-placed team.

Relegation is more straightforward to explain:
- Bottom team in each group is automatically relegated.
- The two teams who finish second from bottom meet in a play-off, and the loser of that is relegated as well.

Personally, and as I've said before, am not a big fan of the promotion/relegation anyway. And in particular, I think three up and three down is too many. Just two up and two down would be more "normal" and straightforward.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2808 - 13/04/2025 22:04:58    2601749

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Replying To MyOhMi:  "3 Rounds of the league played. Martins / Rathnure / Gorey all seem to be going well
Rathnure beat Annes in Rathangan yesterday while Oulart beat Hariers .. 3 wins for Alley also

Anyone at any games"
Martins are flying, I'd still have them favourites to win the SHC when they get the O Connors and Codds back in the summer.

They got close to Na Fianna in Leinster last year.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 894 - 13/04/2025 23:54:36    2601761

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "The current system is a bit of a quare fish all right, with three up and three down, and the way it works is this:

- The top two teams in each group go into League semi-finals.
- However, the semi-finals are not 1 v 2 and 2 v 1, as you'd normally expect. Instead, they're 1 v 1 and 2 v 2.
- This is because the two top teams are automatically promoted, and so the result of their league semi-final doesn't matter from a promotion point of view. It's purely to decide who gets to play in the League Final.
- On the other hand, the 2 v 2 semi-final basically doubles up as a promotion play-off. The winner gets promoted for the following year, and obviously goes through to the final as well.

So to answer your question - yes, if you come second in your group and go on to win the League, you get promoted for the following year. But you're not promoted by virtue of winning the League final. Instead, you're promoted by virtue of having won your semi-final against the other second-placed team.

Relegation is more straightforward to explain:
- Bottom team in each group is automatically relegated.
- The two teams who finish second from bottom meet in a play-off, and the loser of that is relegated as well.

Personally, and as I've said before, am not a big fan of the promotion/relegation anyway. And in particular, I think three up and three down is too many. Just two up and two down would be more "normal" and straightforward."
Thanks Pikeman, agree three up, three down is one too many. Be easier just to keep it simple, top 2 in each group get promoted and meet in league final.

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 473 - 14/04/2025 12:35:34    2601829

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Replying To Past hurler:  "Martins are flying, I'd still have them favourites to win the SHC when they get the O Connors and Codds back in the summer.

They got close to Na Fianna in Leinster last year."
They have Philip Dempsey and I think someone else maybe on the Senior Football team

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15329 - 14/04/2025 12:37:29    2601831

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Just having a look at the hurling results so far, Crossabeg have taken some heavy beatings in the league, are they missing many? I see they have two guys on the U20 panel.

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 473 - 14/04/2025 17:19:22    2601891

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Was down home this weekend apparently both cushinstown and Geraldine's have lost 8 starters due to travelling

Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 351 - 14/04/2025 19:41:30    2601925

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Replying To alwaysasub:  "Just having a look at the hurling results so far, Crossabeg have taken some heavy beatings in the league, are they missing many? I see they have two guys on the U20 panel."
2 Foleys are in Oz too.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15329 - 14/04/2025 21:11:28    2601942

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Replying To Wexfordgaa:  "Was down home this weekend apparently both cushinstown and Geraldine's have lost 8 starters due to travelling"
Heard that Geraldine's are missing 9 starters from last year due to travelling, retirement, and just stepping away. That's not to say they won't be back come championship. Didn't hear that about R-C tbh. Sure alot of clubs are down starters. Even if you don't include the lads away Taghmon have been down at least 7 or 8 starters from last year every game with soccer, lads not back yet and lads injured. There are at least 5 away as well on top of that 7 or 8.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15329 - 14/04/2025 21:16:18    2601943

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A lot of lads who travel now seem to go away between January and June and come back for the club championships.

Hard to tell what players club teams have for championship until Wexford get knocked out of the hurling championship.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 894 - 15/04/2025 08:31:45    2601970

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