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I agree his wording was terrible but if a team was playing Sunday, and then the following Friday, with largely the same bunch of players, they weren't done any favours, especially if their fixture this weekend could've been on Sunday instead of Friday.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13441 - 04/10/2024 13:34:14 2573031 Link 0 |
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Intermediate- alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 426 - 04/10/2024 13:55:27 2573037 Link 0 |
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I never really posted too much about the rapps oulart game tbh. It just got me thinking about the problems we have with GAA refereeing in the county particularly and in the country in general, especially compared to other sports like rugby. And then thinking about how they could be fixed. Problems- A- referees getting abused and assaulted. Just not acceptable. Full stop. B- recruitment- lads aren't beating down the doors to become referees. C- inconsistent and poor referees. What I was trying to establish in the previous 2 posts was that these 3 problems are all related. And also that if we as an organisation and the referees themselves made some changes to how referees are to referee games, to bring them more in line with how rugby referees go about their business, and also changes to the criteria/characteristics that applicants should have in order to be considered for being referees, then maybe we wouldn't need huge public awareness and advertising campaigns like "give respect, get respect" which cost alot of money. I'm not saying that if refereeing standards and accountability were to improve that all the abuse would go away, but probably most of it would. The games themselves might even be a better watch. For example the referee who was in charge of the div 5 u12 football final last night in Ferns was excellent. He pointed out to players where fouls and frees might be likely to occur before they even happened, rather like in rugby, so the players could stop what they were doing wrong or not do what they were about to do wrong, thereby letting the game flow better. If he awarded a free he explained to the lads what it was for, so over the course of the game they were more aware of what was and wasn't acceptable or within the rules. He was maybe a little fussy with handfasting, but correct by the letter of the law, and handpassing got better as the game went on. An all round excellent refereeing performance. Just going back quickly to something you said about your workplace, if someone wasn't performing satisfactorily in a customer/client role, or in particular had upset one of your clients, would you send that someone back to that same client 2 or 3 weeks later? Or would you send someone else? Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13441 - 04/10/2024 14:02:18 2573040 Link 0 |
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First thing is their fixture this weekend is on Saturday, not Friday. Secondly, the point is that it couldn't have been changed to Sunday without putting at least one other club in a difficult position instead. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2503 - 04/10/2024 14:25:50 2573045 Link 0 |
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Rathnure by 10 Fethard by 4- my tip for the final if they avoid Rathnure in the semi. Jimmy's after an almighty battle. Horeswood won't be afraid of them and derby games take on a life of their own. Askamore but another tight game. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13441 - 04/10/2024 14:38:18 2573049 Link 0 |
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Also @Viking66 - am not sure I see much point in continuing to discuss workplace practices, but since you've asked me a question, I'll answer it. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2503 - 04/10/2024 15:06:15 2573052 Link 0 |
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The reason I asked you that last question is that James Owens has been assigned to the Premier minor final that Oulart are in. As regards our discussion on referees I know it's a very sensitive subject, and while not exactly the tail wagging the dog as the referees are all GAA members also, the fact is games can't go ahead without referees, as referees themselves well know. At the same time if they aren't accountable purely on those grounds, or receptive to ideas to improve their lot as regards abuse, or willing to listen to other people who might have good suggestions as to how to improve the standard of refereeing and some of their attitude and communication with players, mentors etc then at the end of the day they are going to remain getting abused, and we are going to remain being short of referees as result. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13441 - 04/10/2024 16:50:55 2573073 Link 0 |
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I posted that before you answered with the 1st one! Or at least the posts crossed. The OP said 4 days so I assumed Friday. Strange he didn't mention that Tara Rocks have even less turnaround time than Crossabeg.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13441 - 04/10/2024 18:50:42 2573086 Link 0 |
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Rode is a phrase used for hard done by so I wouldnt be taking it that personally, I certainly wouldn't say it's a disgraceful comment or a cheap shot The weather was unfortunate obviously but the bottom line is Shels had 7 full days between hurling and football - Ballymurn had 4. Another argument for reducing the amount of games next year so the CB aren't completely tied to a schedule with wriggle room to put things back a week. In summary Ballymurn have been hard done by , rode , gotten a raw deal with the way it's panned out this week. Little point in pointing out the fact they lost all their group games that has absolutely nothing to do with this weeks fixtures. Anyway the Shels will surely take advantage OasisorBlur (Wexford) - Posts: 42 - 04/10/2024 19:24:21 2573089 Link 0 |
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The weather was unfortunate obviously but the bottom line is Shels had 7 full days between hurling and football - Ballymurn had 4. Another argument for reducing the amount of games next year so the CB aren't completely tied to a schedule with no wriggle room to put things back a week. In summary Ballymurn have been hard done by , rode , gotten a raw deal with the way it's panned out this week. Little point in pointing out the fact they lost all their group games that has absolutely nothing to do with this weeks fixtures. Anyway the Shels will surely take advantage OasisorBlur (Wexford) - Posts: 42 - 04/10/2024 19:26:06 2573090 Link 0 |
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We will never know if playing the football on Monday also helped them in their win, perhaps had they played in the rain and wind on Sunday they would have been beaten. I think they will take it and I doubt if they will have many complaints even if they are beaten in the hurling as I honestly believe they thing now they have a chance in the football.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1880 - 05/10/2024 08:41:28 2573114 Link 0 |
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theboys (Wexford) - Posts: 235 - 05/10/2024 09:37:06 2573117 Link 0 |
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We will never know if playing the football on Monday also helped them in their win, perhaps had they played in the rain and wind on Sunday they would have been beaten. I think they will take it and I doubt if they will have many complaints even if they are beaten in the hurling as I honestly believe they thing now they have a chance in the football."]I agree I don't think it'll bother them if they win particularly it's just a shame the calendar is so condensed in wexford. With so many clubs playing both codes I don't thnk we can continue with so many group games- this is about 13 weeks on the bounce (take out one for Fleadh) for clubs who are still going in both- that's not sustainable IMO.
OasisorBlur (Wexford) - Posts: 42 - 05/10/2024 10:49:14 2573124 Link 0 |
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Was at minor div 2 final today between cushinstown and ballyhogue. Cushinstown won by 15. 2.16 to 7 pts. Young Sean o Brien outstanding again. Impressive thing is 8 starting lads for Cushinstown are under 16 and only losing one to overage next year. Very strong up the middle. Under 16s in the division 1 final next week so hopefully the club is on the rise. Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 303 - 05/10/2024 14:59:41 2573145 Link 0 |
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Error ridden quarter final. Poor conditions but Shels nearly led lead slip again against a poor Crossabeg performance. Hard to pick any quality out. Paudie foley prob best on field but they had no scoring power. Hit awful wides. Shels just about getting over the line WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 225 - 05/10/2024 18:37:16 2573175 Link 0 |
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Was at the adult game, very good first half, scrappier second. Cushinstown started like a train, and finished strong, Mellows did all their best work up to half-time. All three goals were identical in that it involved a fella running through and drawing defenders. Looked like ET was imminent, but what a score to win it. Porter excellent for Cushinstown, and they dominated aerially, thought Gardiner was outstanding for Mellows, with Kennedy and Halpin mopping up well in front of him.
beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1445 - 05/10/2024 19:24:01 2573180 Link 0 |
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Did the ref in Fethard v Bunclody mess up the final score? countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 690 - 05/10/2024 21:03:38 2573189 Link 0 |
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Yeah I'd agree. I taught cushinstown were way too loose for long periods and been honest scoreline flattered us. Our ball to hand I taught was very poor and delivery wasn't great. To be fair the wind was awful for both teams. On another note how in the name of god is Ollie goose Bolger still hurling and kicking football at 47. What a legend. Best of luck to Liam mellows
Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 303 - 05/10/2024 21:06:52 2573190 Link 0 |
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So it's being reported. Not sure how penalty shoot out went ahead in the circumstances ..how hard can it be for a ref and his officials to mess up the score?
Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 265 - 05/10/2024 21:30:43 2573193 Link 0 |
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Yeah going purely by Fethards X updates, there were a couple of times where they mentioned the scoreboard differing from their own account (clubs usually have reliable members updating the scores), including when they thought they were three up in 2nd half of ET, but a Bunclody goal seemingly put them one ahead. Strange one.
beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1445 - 05/10/2024 21:37:11 2573195 Link 0 |