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I could lose all 5 group games finish last, you could win 3 yet come third. i then play 5th in other group and win and into a Q final. You play 4th in other group and lose, you're done for year.
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 661 - 27/06/2024 15:25:12 2555193 Link 0 |
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For people that feel the intercounty is run off too quick or games are squashed together I.e. teams playing 3 weeks on the run well here is at least some justification or reasoning for that. WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 303 - 27/06/2024 15:45:35 2555198 Link 0 |
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Tes very inlikely but possible . Like losers of mc Donagh final could win all irleand and still not be in leinster the following year . Unlikely but possible
Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 221 - 27/06/2024 17:14:43 2555222 Link 0 |
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Yes. Best to win enough games to finish in the top 2. Sure under the old system a club stayed up after losing all 5 group games too, just 2 years ago. The club that went down had won 2 games, finishing level on points with the club who finished 4th and went into a QF. They also beat the club that finished 3rd in the group who also went into a QF that year. There's no such thing as a perfect "pure" system, except straight knockout. But then there aren't enough games for anyone, players, clubs or spectators. Half the clubs would only get one game. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12913 - 27/06/2024 17:16:06 2555223 Link 0 |
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Completely agree. Far too many games both club and county with no jeopardy, literally none. No one wants the situation of 1 strike and your out but we've completely flipped it the other way, I mean lose all 5 group games and still be in the championship! It's even worse than the all ireland football championship in all honesty. More games isn't always necessarily the answer, more games where there's something real riding on the outcome is different. There has to be a happy medium, give players games but have them matter even if its less than we currently have, you learn more in adversity and pressure situations than ye ever will in meaningless games with no jeopardy tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1384 - 27/06/2024 17:50:30 2555236 Link 0 |
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Championships with 16- 4 x 4 groups. Top 2 to Q final's and bottom 2 to rel Q finals. Give games some sort a cutting edge instead of losing 5 games and one win can then get you through. Doesn't improve standard.
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 661 - 28/06/2024 09:33:50 2555325 Link 0 |
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I proposed that year before last. It didn't get much support from the clubs.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12913 - 28/06/2024 18:16:06 2555451 Link 0 |
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At the start of a competition there are no meaningless games therefore it's always going to be the default for players. The difference between Winning and Losing can be a very fine line. Players want more games and want to always think they have a chance of winning the championship. One way to have more meaningful games is cut down the number of teams to 10. The reason most of the games become meaningless is disparity between the top on bottom.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1824 - 30/06/2024 10:08:38 2555877 Link 0 |
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Pure guess work with these predictions. Yellowhelmet (Australia) - Posts: 98 - 01/07/2024 10:55:02 2556159 Link 0 |
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Question will clubber be showing any wexford club games been away from wexford hard to see games Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 289 - 02/07/2024 11:44:16 2556462 Link 0 |
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Yes I think you're right about not knowing where teams are until the 3rd round. Very difficult to predict the first round going purely off previous years and recent league campaign. Really excited for it though, hopefully there's a bit of zip to games in spite of the new format.
YellowShadeOfPurple (Wexford) - Posts: 13 - 02/07/2024 12:17:19 2556480 Link 0 |
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Not sure, is the WexGaa Tv going again? Ed Rowesome is a breath of fresh air on it.
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 661 - 02/07/2024 13:25:59 2556505 Link 0 |
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Think it is. Eds a real knowledgeable fella.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12913 - 02/07/2024 13:45:28 2556515 Link 0 |
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all senior games are usually shown by Wexford GAA tv along with maybe one or two intermediate games. My predications Shelmaliers v Harriers Harriers are still a young team but expect the Shels experience to see them through. Shels by 2 Oulart The Ballagh v St. Anne's I really fancy the Anne's to go far this year, to make the final. Really nice team to watch. Anne's by 5 Naomh Eanna v Glynn Can only really see one winner here. The Gorey side by 6. Glynn have been disappointing for a number of seasons now. Crossabeg-Ballymurn v Ferns Think the ballymurn side might struggle this year, Ferns to start with a win by 9. Cloughbawn v St. Martins Cloughbawn back senior in what will be a very difficult task. Martins should have too much but might be closer than ppl think. Martins by 4 Oylegate-Glenbrien v Rapparees Pick of the first round ties for me in what should be a tight game. Think I fancy the Rapps by 2 Intermediate Rathnure v Tara Rocks Not expecting any upsets here, it's Rathnures title to lose. I think the championship structure will really disadvantage teams like the Rocks as most of the guys on this team are Kilanerin men who will prioritise senior football. Rathnure by 10. Buffers Alley v Gusserane The alley to start with a good win. St. James v Blackwater Another team who probably will prioritise football even though the Jimmies got to the final last year. Blackwater missing a lot of players I here from last year. Blackwater by 2. Craanford v Taghmon The men from the north of the county should make a good account of themselves in this grade although I think Taghmon should have too much for them, even though the men from Ross have players travelling. Taghmon by 3 Askamore v Fethard Fethard seemed to struggle at times last year. Haven't heard if they have players back that were missing from last year. Askamore by 3 Bunclody v Horeswood Bunclody not as strong as previous years but I think they should have enough for Horeswood alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 02/07/2024 13:45:53 2556517 Link 0 |
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As an outsider looking in how did Buffers Alley and Rathnure meet in the division 1 final of the league if both teams are intermediate? Redzer99 (Waterford) - Posts: 5 - 02/07/2024 16:08:21 2556551 Link 0 |
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Because last year Buffers Alley got promoted in the League, and Rathnure stayed up.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12913 - 02/07/2024 16:16:02 2556555 Link 0 |
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League is separate competition and teams who finish bottom are relegated. Rathnure and Buffers Alley wouldn't have any players playing county so have full contingent for the league. Likewise St Anne's and the harriers playing the div 2 final and both are senior clubs. They would be missing all their county players for the league and without them they are very limited teams. 2 years ago rathnure beat Glynn in league final, rathnure were in relegation that year in championship and both in relegation last year
camánouttathat (Wexford) - Posts: 49 - 02/07/2024 16:27:20 2556558 Link 0 |
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Rathnure had Wickham playing for the u20s. Did OK too.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12913 - 02/07/2024 17:06:10 2556567 Link 0 |
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Very hard to predict first round games unless you are a team that is going for top spots in the groups!!! I'd say alot of teams will be leaving lads off if they aren't fully fit or carrying knocks,I'd imagine most teams will try and pick the couple of games that they are going all out for!!! If I was a manager id be goin all out for first game to win and then plot they way!!! Irrelevant where you finish in my mind as it's so open!! I'd just try get in top four with trying to manage the squad you have if you can that is!!! I'd imagine gorey shels oulart martins oylegate would have squads to do that!!! Gorey team to beat obviously,after that stick a pin in it!!! Not even going to try pick first round winners because god only knows what teams are up to!!! One things for sure gorey will hammer barntown!!!just enjoy the games and hope they are of a championship feel theboys (Wexford) - Posts: 223 - 02/07/2024 17:52:59 2556579 Link 0 |
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With the regrading rule brought in this year I can see quite a few of younger player being used in the first two games for the teams that have the players to do it.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1824 - 03/07/2024 16:39:14 2556778 Link 0 |