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Back soon and I can't wait. At Senior will Gorey be able to defend their title? Will Oylegate go as well again? A good few of their lads will have benefitted from their involvement in Senior intercounty this year. Will the end of the split season suit Shels? Will Martins get their act together this year? Will Rapps underachieve again? And what about the Harriers?
If Oulart get their injured lads back I think they might surprise a few people. The end of the split season should help them too. Anne's also could go very well, Eoin Ryan, Dee and Mogie all look to be fully fit now.
Cloughbawn have all their big players fit again apparently, haven't heard anything from Ferns but they are always tough to beat, Crossabeg might be missing Oisin Foley who would be a big loss, though the year with the Seniors will have surely helped Mark Byrne.
Conor Mahoney and Darragh Carleys year with the Seniors will have brought them on, but will Barntown have the lads back who were travelling last year?
All to play for, and hard to know who is going to fly this year, should be an excellent Senior championship!
At Intermediate Rathnure look to be the team to beat, but if they don't go straight back up it will get harder with each passing year though. Fethard might be their main challengers this year, some excellent young players coming through, although Daire Barden is a big loss and Mikey Dwyers back would be a worry also. Jimmys will be tough, but like Tara Rocks, Horeswood and Gusserane will the end of the split season hurt their hurling? Bunclody are going well, as are Craanford, they are both in the division 2 league final later. James Byrne and Tucker did ok for the Seniors in the games they played, which should help Askamore. Tompkins and Nolan will still be important players. Taghmon and Blackwater are missing important men travelling. Will Buffers Alley get more from their young contingent who went well at u21 a couple years ago and are another year older?
Like the Senior Championship it's hard to know at this stage who will hit the ground running. Momentum, especially in the latter stages of the groups, might prove to be decisive coming into the knockouts.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12913 - 24/06/2024 13:52:45    2554409

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Replying To Viking66:  "Back soon and I can't wait. At Senior will Gorey be able to defend their title? Will Oylegate go as well again? A good few of their lads will have benefitted from their involvement in Senior intercounty this year. Will the end of the split season suit Shels? Will Martins get their act together this year? Will Rapps underachieve again? And what about the Harriers?
If Oulart get their injured lads back I think they might surprise a few people. The end of the split season should help them too. Anne's also could go very well, Eoin Ryan, Dee and Mogie all look to be fully fit now.
Cloughbawn have all their big players fit again apparently, haven't heard anything from Ferns but they are always tough to beat, Crossabeg might be missing Oisin Foley who would be a big loss, though the year with the Seniors will have surely helped Mark Byrne.
Conor Mahoney and Darragh Carleys year with the Seniors will have brought them on, but will Barntown have the lads back who were travelling last year?
All to play for, and hard to know who is going to fly this year, should be an excellent Senior championship!
At Intermediate Rathnure look to be the team to beat, but if they don't go straight back up it will get harder with each passing year though. Fethard might be their main challengers this year, some excellent young players coming through, although Daire Barden is a big loss and Mikey Dwyers back would be a worry also. Jimmys will be tough, but like Tara Rocks, Horeswood and Gusserane will the end of the split season hurt their hurling? Bunclody are going well, as are Craanford, they are both in the division 2 league final later. James Byrne and Tucker did ok for the Seniors in the games they played, which should help Askamore. Tompkins and Nolan will still be important players. Taghmon and Blackwater are missing important men travelling. Will Buffers Alley get more from their young contingent who went well at u21 a couple years ago and are another year older?
Like the Senior Championship it's hard to know at this stage who will hit the ground running. Momentum, especially in the latter stages of the groups, might prove to be decisive coming into the knockouts."
Oisin Foley is back playing as far as I know

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 328 - 24/06/2024 15:43:24    2554468

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Replying To Afinestick96:  "Oisin Foley is back playing as far as I know"
That's great news for Crossabeg. He was a big loss for Wexford this year.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12913 - 24/06/2024 15:53:16    2554472

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When's it due to start anyway? I can't find information on wexford gaa website and don't be home often to read the local rag

WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 303 - 24/06/2024 16:19:48    2554478

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Replying To Viking66:  "That's great news for Crossabeg. He was a big loss for Wexford this year."
Huge would love to see him back next year. He could have been the difference against KK of available this year

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 328 - 24/06/2024 16:56:35    2554494

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Replying To WEXILE:  "When's it due to start anyway? I can't find information on wexford gaa website and don't be home often to read the local rag"
2 weeks. Less now!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12913 - 24/06/2024 16:56:55    2554495

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Replying To Viking66:  "Back soon and I can't wait. At Senior will Gorey be able to defend their title? Will Oylegate go as well again? A good few of their lads will have benefitted from their involvement in Senior intercounty this year. Will the end of the split season suit Shels? Will Martins get their act together this year? Will Rapps underachieve again? And what about the Harriers?
If Oulart get their injured lads back I think they might surprise a few people. The end of the split season should help them too. Anne's also could go very well, Eoin Ryan, Dee and Mogie all look to be fully fit now.
Cloughbawn have all their big players fit again apparently, haven't heard anything from Ferns but they are always tough to beat, Crossabeg might be missing Oisin Foley who would be a big loss, though the year with the Seniors will have surely helped Mark Byrne.
Conor Mahoney and Darragh Carleys year with the Seniors will have brought them on, but will Barntown have the lads back who were travelling last year?
All to play for, and hard to know who is going to fly this year, should be an excellent Senior championship!
At Intermediate Rathnure look to be the team to beat, but if they don't go straight back up it will get harder with each passing year though. Fethard might be their main challengers this year, some excellent young players coming through, although Daire Barden is a big loss and Mikey Dwyers back would be a worry also. Jimmys will be tough, but like Tara Rocks, Horeswood and Gusserane will the end of the split season hurt their hurling? Bunclody are going well, as are Craanford, they are both in the division 2 league final later. James Byrne and Tucker did ok for the Seniors in the games they played, which should help Askamore. Tompkins and Nolan will still be important players. Taghmon and Blackwater are missing important men travelling. Will Buffers Alley get more from their young contingent who went well at u21 a couple years ago and are another year older?
Like the Senior Championship it's hard to know at this stage who will hit the ground running. Momentum, especially in the latter stages of the groups, might prove to be decisive coming into the knockouts."
it is going to be interesting to see how teams approach it knowing they are guaranteed at least a preliminary QF no matter how they finish in the group. Will teams with a few county lads or a couple of injuries try to keep them fresh until the end of the group stage or knockouts? I don't like the new way it is set up personally

btwex90 (Wexford) - Posts: 16 - 25/06/2024 09:58:53    2554651

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Replying To btwex90:  "it is going to be interesting to see how teams approach it knowing they are guaranteed at least a preliminary QF no matter how they finish in the group. Will teams with a few county lads or a couple of injuries try to keep them fresh until the end of the group stage or knockouts? I don't like the new way it is set up personally"
Tbh going into the meeting I wasn't sure either. But Adrian Fenlon gave an excellent presentation, so in the end I thought give it a go. It hasn't done Kilkenny any harm, and they have had a similar structure for years now. With the evenness of our teams in each grade, and the number of games in a short period, its a huge advantage to finish as high in the group as possible, have another week off, and have to play less losable games.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12913 - 25/06/2024 10:47:37    2554672

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Replying To Viking66:  "Tbh going into the meeting I wasn't sure either. But Adrian Fenlon gave an excellent presentation, so in the end I thought give it a go. It hasn't done Kilkenny any harm, and they have had a similar structure for years now. With the evenness of our teams in each grade, and the number of games in a short period, its a huge advantage to finish as high in the group as possible, have another week off, and have to play less losable games."
Are we still running 2 groups of 6 teams? Did I read there are preliminary quarters? It seems we are running an excessive lot of games and we have to do it for football too.

I heard Jarlath Burns mention that if counties want an extended intercounty season then their club championships are.going to have to be shortened. He said in essence what Wexford are running is not a championship its a league.

WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 303 - 25/06/2024 11:07:59    2554680

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Replying To WEXILE:  "Are we still running 2 groups of 6 teams? Did I read there are preliminary quarters? It seems we are running an excessive lot of games and we have to do it for football too.

I heard Jarlath Burns mention that if counties want an extended intercounty season then their club championships are.going to have to be shortened. He said in essence what Wexford are running is not a championship its a league."
Football and hurling structures are different to eachother this year. Football has stayed as it was. The Clubs voted for 2 groups of 6 for both. There were other options.

Not everyone wants an extended intercounty season. There are probably too many intercounty games as it is. Club championships and players need to be played and to be playing meaningful games too. For dual counties the problem is obviously worse.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12913 - 25/06/2024 12:53:20    2554719

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I think the new system in hurling will make the league section kess competitive. Ie if u lose 2 games you can't finish in top 2 most likely . And then regardless u ate looking at preliminary 1/4 final. So you wil have one eye on that fir next few rounds . Might suit lads going away for summer or taking their hols mid season .
See st Anne's beat harriers in div 2 league final .
Thought jj would have harriers flying at mo heard they ve been hard at it since mid January assume all they missing were 2 county men .
. David redmond with Anne's who could be dark horses good mix of old young and fully fut liam og ,dee and eoin Ryan thrown in could well be in the mix as they seem to be every year . Semi finalist
Not sure about harriers old and young too but older lads are 40ish . Need chin and lawlor to on top of theur game chim looked jadded at end of inter county wonder whats left in the tank for club and they rely so heavily in him surely has to wear him out too. They had few u20s this year too in the mix same as the Anne's had . 1/4 finalist then who knows
No stand out team but imagine naomh eanna and possibly oilgate with rowley should give them another good stick man with pace and again should go close . Naomh eanna prob favourites to make final at least strong squad . Depend on mac too and how he performs intensity wil be his main worry .
,rapps need jippo, to be in the mix . think shels have good chance depending on manging both codes and semi finalist at least Oulart prob little stronger this year but can't see them getting past 1/4 final .
Barntown surely hsve good squad but possibly lack leaders and belief . Excuse of losing players to travelling is the same in all clubs not just them but they should be stronger with the numbers in the club and continued underage success and competitiveness most years should make 1/4 final then depends on the belief and progress of younger players .
Martins who knows think players rule and if they are up for it could go close too min semi final . They must look back and ask how have we not won more with the players that were available over last 10 years.
Crossabeg with the foleys could make 1/4 final without will struggle . Cloughbawn wil have survival as their target and depends on their preliminary /4 final cant see them competing for top iof table .
Ferns I d expect to go well enough to be mid to top table in group and make 1/4 final and possiibly 50/50 to make semi love to se Corey light up championship could be pivotal to thier chances .
Fethard or ratnure for inter . Fethard may lack depth of squad . Cillin byrne good addition to compliment cian and eoin whelan . If All stay fit . They ll take beating . Alley hard to know good young players but rest of squad mediocre. Can't see anyone else taghmon squad too depleted contest.
All just my opinion
Winners Namh Eanna
Outside bet st Anne's .
Can someone refresh me on qualifying criteria in round Robin. Is it top 2 into 1/4 final
3 plays 6 opposite group in preliminary and 4 plays 5 in opposite group . Losers in relegation semi final .
Potential to be 3rd and could be unlucky enough to be relegated is that correct.

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 221 - 25/06/2024 13:53:49    2554754

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Replying To Formertownie:  "I think the new system in hurling will make the league section kess competitive. Ie if u lose 2 games you can't finish in top 2 most likely . And then regardless u ate looking at preliminary 1/4 final. So you wil have one eye on that fir next few rounds . Might suit lads going away for summer or taking their hols mid season .
See st Anne's beat harriers in div 2 league final .
Thought jj would have harriers flying at mo heard they ve been hard at it since mid January assume all they missing were 2 county men .
. David redmond with Anne's who could be dark horses good mix of old young and fully fut liam og ,dee and eoin Ryan thrown in could well be in the mix as they seem to be every year . Semi finalist
Not sure about harriers old and young too but older lads are 40ish . Need chin and lawlor to on top of theur game chim looked jadded at end of inter county wonder whats left in the tank for club and they rely so heavily in him surely has to wear him out too. They had few u20s this year too in the mix same as the Anne's had . 1/4 finalist then who knows
No stand out team but imagine naomh eanna and possibly oilgate with rowley should give them another good stick man with pace and again should go close . Naomh eanna prob favourites to make final at least strong squad . Depend on mac too and how he performs intensity wil be his main worry .
,rapps need jippo, to be in the mix . think shels have good chance depending on manging both codes and semi finalist at least Oulart prob little stronger this year but can't see them getting past 1/4 final .
Barntown surely hsve good squad but possibly lack leaders and belief . Excuse of losing players to travelling is the same in all clubs not just them but they should be stronger with the numbers in the club and continued underage success and competitiveness most years should make 1/4 final then depends on the belief and progress of younger players .
Martins who knows think players rule and if they are up for it could go close too min semi final . They must look back and ask how have we not won more with the players that were available over last 10 years.
Crossabeg with the foleys could make 1/4 final without will struggle . Cloughbawn wil have survival as their target and depends on their preliminary /4 final cant see them competing for top iof table .
Ferns I d expect to go well enough to be mid to top table in group and make 1/4 final and possiibly 50/50 to make semi love to se Corey light up championship could be pivotal to thier chances .
Fethard or ratnure for inter . Fethard may lack depth of squad . Cillin byrne good addition to compliment cian and eoin whelan . If All stay fit . They ll take beating . Alley hard to know good young players but rest of squad mediocre. Can't see anyone else taghmon squad too depleted contest.
All just my opinion
Winners Namh Eanna
Outside bet st Anne's .
Can someone refresh me on qualifying criteria in round Robin. Is it top 2 into 1/4 final
3 plays 6 opposite group in preliminary and 4 plays 5 in opposite group . Losers in relegation semi final .
Potential to be 3rd and could be unlucky enough to be relegated is that correct."
Naomh Eanna will take stopping again I think. It's a long season and they will get going when it matters. Think St Martins will be close when they have everyone available to them, Oilgate, Anne's, Shels Faythe Harriers and Ferns could all beat anyone on a given day but probably lack the consistency to win it out. Think Cloughbawn will struggle back up. Roll on the championship have my season ticket bought

WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 183 - 26/06/2024 22:18:09    2555051

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Replying To Viking66:  "Football and hurling structures are different to eachother this year. Football has stayed as it was. The Clubs voted for 2 groups of 6 for both. There were other options.

Not everyone wants an extended intercounty season. There are probably too many intercounty games as it is. Club championships and players need to be played and to be playing meaningful games too. For dual counties the problem is obviously worse."
Unfortunately there isn't a meaningful club hurling match in Wexford until mid September with new format.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 661 - 27/06/2024 09:51:44    2555092

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Unfortunately there isn't a meaningful club hurling match in Wexford until mid September with new format."
Finishing in the top 2 means you have a game less to play or in other words a rest week, and you can't be relegated. Plenty of clubs will be trying to get into the top 2 of their grade.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12913 - 27/06/2024 11:12:09    2555119

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Exactly, there is actually an incentive to finish in the top 2. You get a week off and also if you finish top you'll be playing the 5th or 6th team in the other side. And the same, if you finish in the bottom two, you'll be in a relegation semi so i don't think anyone will be resting players. I'd be open minded see how it goes and review at the end of the season

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 27/06/2024 13:57:26    2555164

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Replying To alwaysasub:  "Exactly, there is actually an incentive to finish in the top 2. You get a week off and also if you finish top you'll be playing the 5th or 6th team in the other side. And the same, if you finish in the bottom two, you'll be in a relegation semi so i don't think anyone will be resting players. I'd be open minded see how it goes and review at the end of the season"
Are you saying 3rd play 4th on oppoaite other group in preliminary 1/4 final wher 3rd go ouand 6th could be in 1/4 final . Surely 3rd play 6th in opposite group

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 221 - 27/06/2024 14:34:23    2555170

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Replying To alwaysasub:  "Exactly, there is actually an incentive to finish in the top 2. You get a week off and also if you finish top you'll be playing the 5th or 6th team in the other side. And the same, if you finish in the bottom two, you'll be in a relegation semi so i don't think anyone will be resting players. I'd be open minded see how it goes and review at the end of the season"
Yiu could lose all 5 games by 20pts and still win championship.

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 221 - 27/06/2024 14:36:01    2555172

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Replying To Formertownie:  "Yiu could lose all 5 games by 20pts and still win championship."
How realistic is that though? Very unlikely.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12913 - 27/06/2024 15:06:23    2555183

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Groups here.....

https://wexfordgaa.ie/club-championship-draws-2024/

Format here....


https://www.independent.ie/regionals/wexford/sport/gaa/big-changes-between-the-codes-in-wexford-gaa-for-2024-championships/a1932460757.html

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12913 - 27/06/2024 15:18:23    2555188

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Replying To Formertownie:  "Are you saying 3rd play 4th on oppoaite other group in preliminary 1/4 final wher 3rd go ouand 6th could be in 1/4 final . Surely 3rd play 6th in opposite group"
No

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12913 - 27/06/2024 15:19:24    2555189

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