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Back in the real world, with the FRC recommendations approved games are going to end after the ball goes dead after the hooter. They are going to have guys ballooning the ball out of play into people's back gardens!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8578 - 11/03/2025 13:21:25    2595937

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Two questions -

1) Will '4 back' lessen goalkeeper roaming, compared to '3 back'?

2) How to prevent a 'playing donkey' relapse with '4 outfielders back' - should one stay in the goal as an illegible receiver? Maybe, it's simple - opposition matches with '4 up', a link player to prevent 11v10?

omahant (USA) - Posts: 3114 - 11/03/2025 13:54:46    2595941

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The change to the hooter system is the only call.
A lot of matches end badly when a team could be in possession but run out of time to take a shot.

This way, you cannot foul your way to a win, as the clock runs until the ball goes dead.

As for the 3 up 4 back rule - I think it has killed the modern goalkeeper.
The likes of Ethan Raferty, Niall Morgan, Rory Beggan, Odran Lynch, Killian Roche are no longer as big an asset to their team as they used to be.
Now you need a Shaun Patton, Blaine Hughes, Stephen Cluxton and Rory Beggan (just shows how good he is when he has the outfield skills and the kickout) type boot - to be able to launch a kick out to the far 45m line.

Out with the skilfull, fit goalkeepers who play outfield for their clubs, in with the shot-stopper with the cannon of a boot.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1252 - 11/03/2025 14:49:45    2595951

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Replying To omahant:  "Two questions -

1) Will '4 back' lessen goalkeeper roaming, compared to '3 back'?

2) How to prevent a 'playing donkey' relapse with '4 outfielders back' - should one stay in the goal as an illegible receiver? Maybe, it's simple - opposition matches with '4 up', a link player to prevent 11v10?"
On 2)
It is true that 4 outfield defenders staying back could play piggy in the middle against 3 forwards, with the keeper in the other half. Should the opposition be brave to push up in that scenario really?
If it was to become a problem for any reason in the real world, I'm sure there will be another tweak to the rule!

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8578 - 11/03/2025 16:50:39    2595969

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Replying To legendzxix:  "On 2)
It is true that 4 outfield defenders staying back could play piggy in the middle against 3 forwards, with the keeper in the other half. Should the opposition be brave to push up in that scenario really?
If it was to become a problem for any reason in the real world, I'm sure there will be another tweak to the rule!"
The rule was tweaked because most intercounty managers refuse to push up on the opposition and have got used to sitting back in a "low block". This poor tactic allowed the goalkeeper to come up and hand pass the ball around.

The same thing can still happen if the defending team sit in a low block (often while behind on the scoreboard).

We shouldn't be constantly changing rules because managers don't like it though.

I still think allowing the keeper up is the best way to discourage the "low block" defense. By keeping the keeper out of it, the defensive minded coach can stick to that style of play with less chance of being punished.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1252 - 11/03/2025 18:08:10    2595983

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Current rules should have stayed in place until the next competition, makes zero sense to be changing things with two rounds of league action to play.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3546 - 11/03/2025 18:38:31    2595987

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Don't tell me they're going to post the scoring in the Aussie rules like fashion. I may be old school but the 2 pointers are not required, a goal sets a game a light, I think the new rule will take from this.
I don't like what I am seeing and what I am going to be watching in the future.
But hey, that's just me.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8706 - 11/03/2025 19:18:14    2595989

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Back in the real world, with the FRC recommendations approved games are going to end after the ball goes dead after the hooter. They are going to have guys ballooning the ball out of play into people's back gardens!"
Yet more nonsense from this clueless FRC… Gaelic Football is as good as finished with all these nonsensical changes… It's now some sort of mish mash Aussie rules /Rugby hybrid game…. where you'd need an accountant to keep track of the score..!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3572 - 11/03/2025 19:32:12    2595992

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are the new twakes for this weekend or are they for the championship, I'm all confused

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1222 - 11/03/2025 20:35:25    2596000

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The powers that be like making 1 rule and making 2 problems. There is no definitive right or wrong with keeping 4 back. All depends on the circumstance is a cop out.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2260 - 11/03/2025 21:31:30    2596011

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In my experience the new rules are there for good the gaa never want admit they get anything wrong brinjg minor to under 17 bad call and everyone admits it but Gaa won't change it they actually don't care what ordinary members think I doubt majority of ordinary members would vote all these stupid changes in frc have ruined our game in actual fact it's a complete different game in reality they prob need a new trophy for winners because it's not a Gaelic football company anymore , black , yellow red card spray foam hooter players now told they can go where they want on field the mark advantage rule like rugby keep going until u get score joke

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 1018 - 11/03/2025 22:18:34    2596017

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Replying To realdub:  "Don't tell me they're going to post the scoring in the Aussie rules like fashion. I may be old school but the 2 pointers are not required, a goal sets a game a light, I think the new rule will take from this.
I don't like what I am seeing and what I am going to be watching in the future.
But hey, that's just me."
Agree with you totally realdub… the FRC have made a farce of this

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3572 - 11/03/2025 22:36:43    2596021

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FRC must stand for Farcical Ruling Clowns…!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3572 - 12/03/2025 07:00:44    2596028

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Replying To maroondiesel:  "are the new twakes for this weekend or are they for the championship, I'm all confused"
Straight away. I have to say the game has become over complicated. It's going to cause mayhem at club level. We already have a referee shortage.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11479 - 12/03/2025 07:25:18    2596029

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Straight away. I have to say the game has become over complicated. It's going to cause mayhem at club level. We already have a referee shortage."
absolutely, and its a managers game

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1222 - 12/03/2025 09:26:04    2596035

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Replying To Kickitout:  "In my experience the new rules are there for good the gaa never want admit they get anything wrong brinjg minor to under 17 bad call and everyone admits it but Gaa won't change it they actually don't care what ordinary members think I doubt majority of ordinary members would vote all these stupid changes in frc have ruined our game in actual fact it's a complete different game in reality they prob need a new trophy for winners because it's not a Gaelic football company anymore , black , yellow red card spray foam hooter players now told they can go where they want on field the mark advantage rule like rugby keep going until u get score joke"
Someone said the road to hell is paved with good intentions, I agree with you it is a totally different game and the new rules are confusing.
We wont really know until we get into the white heat of Championship when there is really something on the line but I think it's not the game I grew up with, but we'll give it a chance, confidence isn't high on my part though.
Then again the defensive keep ball borefest before this was killing the game too.
New rules and Championship structure, these were the nuts they had to crack, I don't think they have cracked those nuts and it might even be worse than it was.
Anyway roll on the Championship, I foresee and Ulster Championship game, a team is a point up, a ref decides to march a dubious free 50 mts forward into a 2 point opportunity, player kicks the 2 pointer and wins the game, wouldn't like to be that poor ref who's dong his best with the new rules.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3102 - 12/03/2025 10:10:55    2596040

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