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Anyone else see any merit in Bryan Sheehan's proposal to award 2 pts for a score kicked from distance - say from beyond a marked arc say 35/40 metres out. I personally think it might do away way with some of this incessant passing back and forward which is making the game boring from a spectators point of view. Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1274 - 30/05/2024 10:17:54 2548309 Link
I'd just feel sympathy for all the poor sods who have to mark out club pitches all over the country. Can be difficult enough getting a nice even round arc that's just 13 metres radius from the 20m line. Having to mark out a whole new one that's 35 or 40 metres would be far more difficult! Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2622 - 30/05/2024 12:22:03 2548356 Link
how about from shots outside the 45 or straight from sideline/45m kicks be worth 2 points?? Keep it simple and encourage teams to have a go rather than the basketball we see now gaelsboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 567 - 30/05/2024 13:07:38 2548373 Link
Replying To Freethinker: "Anyone else see any merit in Bryan Sheehan's proposal to award 2 pts for a score kicked from distance - say from beyond a marked arc say 35/40 metres out. I personally think it might do away way with some of this incessant passing back and forward which is making the game boring from a spectators point of view." A lot more than 15 players can kick long range scores consistently Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3493 - 30/05/2024 13:36:29 2548380 Link
Replying To gaelsboy: "how about from shots outside the 45 or straight from sideline/45m kicks be worth 2 points?? Keep it simple and encourage teams to have a go rather than the basketball we see now" Issue is that a shot from the 45m line straight in front of goal is a lot shorter than a shot from the 45m line near the sideline. You'd be getting into trigonometry there :) A pitch has to be between 80 and 90 metres wide. Let's take the example of one that's 85 metres. Doing the maths on it shows that a shot from where the 45m line meets the sideline would actually be from a distance of 62 metres. A shot from the 45 right in front of goal would obviously be just 45 metres. Quite a difference there all right. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2622 - 30/05/2024 13:40:22 2548385 Link
The game is being destroyed by rule and format changes, for the love of God stop messing with it, get rid of the forward mark though. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3034 - 30/05/2024 14:57:02 2548420 Link
Replying To Gaa_lover: "A lot more than 15 players can kick long range scores consistently" Problem we have here is that coaches seem to frown on anybody taking a shot from distance, rather recycle it back and try get in closer. Can't risk losing possession. This may not be the case everywhere but it is widespread. I think the recent game with Donegal and Derry was a case in point. Some lovely long range scores early from both sides but as the game got down to the wire, these shots seemed to disappear and possession was vital. That was my impression anyway. Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1274 - 30/05/2024 15:12:17 2548424 Link
Replying To Freethinker: "Anyone else see any merit in Bryan Sheehan's proposal to award 2 pts for a score kicked from distance - say from beyond a marked arc say 35/40 metres out. I personally think it might do away way with some of this incessant passing back and forward which is making the game boring from a spectators point of view." Absolute nonsense…. Far too much tinkering with the game down the years… none of which has improved the game one iota… in fact nearly all the changes have made the game a whole lot worse ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 30/05/2024 17:50:43 2548458 Link
You'd need to make a goal 4 pts. Otherwise we will see teams just kick from distance all day. shaggykev (Donegal) - Posts: 286 - 30/05/2024 19:47:27 2548471 Link
Well you already get a scoreable free for a catch, why not two points for kicking long! arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4942 - 30/05/2024 20:42:14 2548478 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "Absolute nonsense…. Far too much tinkering with the game down the years… none of which has improved the game one iota… in fact nearly all the changes have made the game a whole lot worse" I agree totally way 2 much messing with rules what will they come up with next and I expected more from a man like Jim Gavin it's like an idea someone came up with while swallowing pints and wakes up next morning thinking I hope no one took me seriously, ,, stop messaging with rules get rid of advance mark and maybe even try play more matches in summer not starting championship in firsr week April ,, if these daft rules come in it's time for players at all levels say no enough is enough,,and in gaa like government policies nothing is experimenting it's there for years ,, and furthermore go back to undrr 18 for minor they messed that up big time and still won't change it tome for club delegates to man up and demand change it's all our organisation not the suits at top table who are supposed be admistraters not rule makers ,,rant over Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 954 - 30/05/2024 21:05:31 2548481 Link
Replying To arock: "Well you already get a scoreable free for a catch, why not two points for kicking long!" That's one of the silliest rules ever brought in… A forward getting a free for catching a ball…! Is that not he is supposed to be able to do…? Absolutely nonsense… All these rule changes have the game destroyed…! ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 30/05/2024 22:24:09 2548490 Link
Replying To shaggykev: "You'd need to make a goal 4 pts. Otherwise we will see teams just kick from distance all day." That's what I want to see more of though when I go to games. Points kicked under pressure. Serious skills and teamwork in scoring goals but some of the points kicked from.play will get the crowds up off their feet..Maybe 4 points for a goal where it's foot passes all the way from the kickout, no handpass move? Hard to know what happens any new proposals once risk averse coaches work out waus not to lose and stay defensive in their thinking. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7651 - 30/05/2024 22:50:15 2548494 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Issue is that a shot from the 45m line straight in front of goal is a lot shorter than a shot from the 45m line near the sideline. You'd be getting into trigonometry there :) A pitch has to be between 80 and 90 metres wide. Let's take the example of one that's 85 metres. Doing the maths on it shows that a shot from where the 45m line meets the sideline would actually be from a distance of 62 metres. A shot from the 45 right in front of goal would obviously be just 45 metres. Quite a difference there all right." Spot On - Pythagoras Square root of 3831 ~ 62 metres (v 45m in front of goal). But if a straight line on top of the D Square root of 2895 ~ 53.8 metres from sideline (33m in front of goal), still quite a difference. You could argue that teams try from the middle of 33m, or say, 20m off centre - then a 38.6m kick (difference not so great). One could argue that the defence could flood the middle, but they might open up one point scores instead. omahant (USA) - Posts: 2896 - 31/05/2024 01:48:41 2548498 Link
I am all for it. Teams refuse to shoot from long range because it's considered a "low percentage shot". Up the reward and people will take the risk. You would need to up the value of a goal because it won't be worth scoring a goal if two long range points will be worth more. Goal would need to be five points To those doing the giving out (a) Every sport in the world changes its rules to get rid of negative play (B) Old football was very poor and today's game is much better. I don't yearn for the days of frees and sideline balls having to be taken off the ground (c) The mark can be fixed to having to be an overhead Catch and inside the 21 tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1197 - 31/05/2024 04:47:01 2548501 Link
How many rules have been brought in that actually has improved the game. Mark from the kick out.... Yes No pass back to keeper from kick out....yes Forward mark....No Black Card....... Debatable as interpretation is mixed More rule changes puts more pressure on the referee.. If a goal was worth 4 points there would be a wall of players inside the D to make sure that wouldn't happen. I would much prefer just one rule. Every free kick and Line ball must be played forward. Fairly easy to implement. I would pass the implementation of that rule to the linesman in inter co games. He would have the best vantage point eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1958 - 31/05/2024 10:42:26 2548531 Link
Replying To eoinog: "How many rules have been brought in that actually has improved the game. Mark from the kick out.... Yes No pass back to keeper from kick out....yes Forward mark....No Black Card....... Debatable as interpretation is mixed More rule changes puts more pressure on the referee.. If a goal was worth 4 points there would be a wall of players inside the D to make sure that wouldn't happen. I would much prefer just one rule. Every free kick and Line ball must be played forward. Fairly easy to implement. I would pass the implementation of that rule to the linesman in inter co games. He would have the best vantage point" Would that not see an increase in fouls out towards the corner? Maybe allow it be played backwards if inside the 21? In most instances, the attacking team will try for the score but they shouldn't be obliged to. Think windy day, 1 point down with seconds remaining. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5195 - 31/05/2024 10:51:32 2548533 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "Absolute nonsense…. Far too much tinkering with the game down the years… none of which has improved the game one iota… in fact nearly all the changes have made the game a whole lot worse" Getting rid of the direct handpass goal improved the game. It was farcical seeing players run through and handpass by the keeper liosbreac6265 (Longford) - Posts: 254 - 31/05/2024 11:02:53 2548535 Link
Replying To tirawleybaron: "I am all for it. Teams refuse to shoot from long range because it's considered a "low percentage shot". Up the reward and people will take the risk. You would need to up the value of a goal because it won't be worth scoring a goal if two long range points will be worth more. Goal would need to be five points To those doing the giving out (a) Every sport in the world changes its rules to get rid of negative play (B) Old football was very poor and today's game is much better. I don't yearn for the days of frees and sideline balls having to be taken off the ground (c) The mark can be fixed to having to be an overhead Catch and inside the 21" It wouldn't do Mayo much good anyway, assuming the 2 points for a long range point had to be from play. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3034 - 31/05/2024 11:44:04 2548542 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "Would that not see an increase in fouls out towards the corner? Maybe allow it be played backwards if inside the 21? In most instances, the attacking team will try for the score but they shouldn't be obliged to. Think windy day, 1 point down with seconds remaining." Agree with it only being between the 20s Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1961 - 31/05/2024 12:36:04 2548557 Link