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Gaelic Football Ban In Dundalk School

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Replying To LePetitComté:  "And here we are again.....let the bigotry continue....

"Students vow to keep fighting for GAA team as principal says school will focus on three sports only

Senior students at the school took to the streets for the second time last Friday demanding them be allowed play the national game"

Doesn't mention hurling at all in that article?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13648 - 27/10/2024 05:11:30    2577109

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Replying To Viking66:  "
Replying To LePetitComté:  "And here we are again.....let the bigotry continue....

"Students vow to keep fighting for GAA team as principal says school will focus on three sports only

Senior students at the school took to the streets for the second time last Friday demanding them be allowed play the national game"

Doesn't mention hurling at all in that article?"
I see what you did there!

On a more serious note, the silence over this in comparison to the relentless in your face "diversity" and "inclusion" speaks volumes,

If this was a ban on any other sport we'd have a month if Primetime Investigates and crying pluralists.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3061 - 27/10/2024 12:45:25    2577140

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Right. For once and for all, is gaelic football actually banned in the school or not?

i.e. if some students started up a gaelic football kickaround between them on school grounds, would they be told "Stop! We don't allow that sport here!"

Or is just a case of what I strongly suspect, where the truth is actually just "School chooses not enter gaelic football competitions".

As previously stated, that's the school's own perogative. It's not a ban or discrimination.

As also previously stated, the school I attended myself regularly has calls from students there to enter schools soccer competitions, but it's never done so.

Doesn't mean that soccer is banned there. Just means they choose not to field soccer teams.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2576 - 27/10/2024 19:55:35    2577248

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Right. For once and for all, is gaelic football actually banned in the school or not?

i.e. if some students started up a gaelic football kickaround between them on school grounds, would they be told "Stop! We don't allow that sport here!"

Or is just a case of what I strongly suspect, where the truth is actually just "School chooses not enter gaelic football competitions".

As previously stated, that's the school's own perogative. It's not a ban or discrimination.

As also previously stated, the school I attended myself regularly has calls from students there to enter schools soccer competitions, but it's never done so.

Doesn't mean that soccer is banned there. Just means they choose not to field soccer teams."
The students are seeking clarification from the School board on whether Gaelic Games are officially "banned" at the school, and the school are unlikely to say "Yes, Gaelic Games are banned here", as that would open a massive can of worms. They have a petition of 400 students who signed a petition out of 574 and 90% of teachers.

Dundalk Grammar School lists SEC - Secondary Education Committee grant awarding body on their main page and they are linked to Transferor Representatives Council in Northern Ireland, which probably explains why the school hasn't fielded Gaelic teams in National Competitions, which is fine, we shouldn't be forcing schools of a certain ethos to play certain sports.

Its up to students and parents to pick a secondary school that fits their educational and sporting needs, I'm sure there are plenty of other secondary schools of similar quality that can cater for their Gaelic needs.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1193 - 30/10/2024 13:33:35    2577608

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Replying To Commodore:  "The students are seeking clarification from the School board on whether Gaelic Games are officially "banned" at the school, and the school are unlikely to say "Yes, Gaelic Games are banned here", as that would open a massive can of worms. They have a petition of 400 students who signed a petition out of 574 and 90% of teachers.

Dundalk Grammar School lists SEC - Secondary Education Committee grant awarding body on their main page and they are linked to Transferor Representatives Council in Northern Ireland, which probably explains why the school hasn't fielded Gaelic teams in National Competitions, which is fine, we shouldn't be forcing schools of a certain ethos to play certain sports.

Its up to students and parents to pick a secondary school that fits their educational and sporting needs, I'm sure there are plenty of other secondary schools of similar quality that can cater for their Gaelic needs."
Many thanks. Seems to be as I suspected all right.

The words "ban" and "banned" completely misrepresent the situation, but the true position of simply "school chooses not to enter gaelic football competition" is nowhere near as provocative.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2576 - 31/10/2024 15:11:42    2577741

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A school deciding not to participate in Gaelic Games despite 90% of students and teachers wanting them to do so. It's essentially a ban, as the school has decided the students can't play Gaelic football for the school, because they don't want it played by the school.
The GAA decided that at one point that foreign sports would not be played at Croke Park. That was known as a ban, which was of course famously changed with the amendment to Rule 42.
Whether you call it a ban, forbidden or a decision not to allow it, it's all the same. The school doesn't allow students to play Gaelic football for the school itself.
A ban doesn't mean it can't be changed at some stage of course, much like Rule 42.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2182 - 31/10/2024 18:16:09    2577766

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "A school deciding not to participate in Gaelic Games despite 90% of students and teachers wanting them to do so. It's essentially a ban, as the school has decided the students can't play Gaelic football for the school, because they don't want it played by the school.
The GAA decided that at one point that foreign sports would not be played at Croke Park. That was known as a ban, which was of course famously changed with the amendment to Rule 42.
Whether you call it a ban, forbidden or a decision not to allow it, it's all the same. The school doesn't allow students to play Gaelic football for the school itself.
A ban doesn't mean it can't be changed at some stage of course, much like Rule 42."
Ah look. There's a difference between choosing not to enter competitions in a given sport, and actually banning that sport.

A look at the Dundalk Grammar School website shows that they enter competitions in badminton, cricket, orienteering, rugby, swimming, and tennis, amongst other sports.

The local school here that I keep referring to doesn't enter competitions in any of those sports. It doesn't mean that they're banned from the school. There's a big difference.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2576 - 31/10/2024 22:35:37    2577789

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